Are you kidding me, Bynum is injury prone. As a Laker fan I would trade him in a New York Minute for Wall, and you still don't get it do you? Biedrins is getting paid 9 mill a year! Biedrins is overpayed and they are stuck with him for the next 4 years, they still have Turiaf. As you see he isn't going to get them to the playoffs. Gasol would help them get to the playoffs, and it would be great to see him and Bynum battle it out. Many teams would love to have a player like Bynum or Gasol for Wall because they already have very good, if not great point guards,how is that hard to understand?
Many teams would love to have a player like Bynum or Gasol for Wall because they already have very good if not great point guards,how is that hard to understand?.
No, noone would trade John Wall for Bynum or Gasol. Where did u get that Idea?
They could get a lot for Wall but his trade is not as farfetched as it sounds and you are talking bout GSW. They are known for making questionable moves.
Many of you on this site are fans of terrible teams of course(Knicks,Raptors, etc) and I understand that you hate the idea of the top player in this years draft going to the champs, but it's ok. Gasol for Wall is more than fair you idiots just don't get the common sense part of this trade, some teams in the lottery need a legit big man Pau is only 29 years old you gus are making it seem like he is 33. Gasol would flourish in a system like the Warriors.
See? Why are you calling us idiots for? Please.
I'm gonna let you hold on the Wall to LA dream so WHEN IT DOESN'T HAPPEN, I can laugh and rip you all the way to the bank.
Also, with 2 top 10 players- Why is LA tied 2-2 with OKC who (to you) has no top 10 players? Hold Nuts.
Take a look a the ft discrepancy before you make a fool out of yourself. Kobe took only 10 shots last game how often is that going to happen? The Lakers are going to win tonight in convincing style. This series has been set up just to give the little Thunder thier exposure and to create a buzz for Durant. We all know the Lakers love the drama all this is doing is making more revenue for the NBA. Ask me if im scared that it's 2-2.
Lol, your teams loses means the games are fixed? Come on now.
I'm tired of arguing this stupid question with this idiot. I'm done.
No one cares if your scared that the Lakers are 2-2, or if you think the series has been fixed. Gasol is a very good player, but you dont trade a player like Wall for a player who will be leaving his prime in 3 years or so. Great player for 3-5 years or a great player for 12-15 years. How does this make any sense for the Warriors? In all likelihood, if they did get the number 1 pick and trade it, it would be for a pick a few spots down, and either a salary dump, or a pick up of a young cheap player, like Deandre Jordan. I doubt a team like the Warriors, who are in straight rebuild mode, would give up the top overall pick without getting a first rounder in return. There are a lot more likely scenarios than Wall to the Lakers...
You've been playing way too much NBA 2K10.
1. No way the rebuilding Warriors give up the #1 pick for a 30 year old PF/C or an injury prone center that is having problems living up to his potential.
2. You don't need to be a #1 option to be a top 10 player in the league. Pippen, Nash, Magic, Dwight, Kidd, hell even Ben Wallace ranked top 10 in the MVP voting 3 times and the guy hasn't hit a jump shot his entire career. So, that logic is poor.
3. Saying Pau is worse the Bynum is just ridiculous. A great example is the finals last year. Bynum started off the game guarding/being guarded by Dwight he looked like a confused, frustrated kid, and ended up averaging less then 20 minutes a game. When Pau matched up against him, there was no contest about who was the overall better player. Dwight couldn't stop Pau, and he also couldn't stop turning the ball over
4. Saying Pau isn't a top 10 player because he couldn't win a championship without Kobe is a moot point. Basketball is a team game and if you want to win a ship you gotta have more then one top 10 player. How did Kobe fair in the seasons in between having Shaq and Pau? How did Dwade do when Shaq got left. Ray Allen, Pierce, and Garnett couldn't win a game in '07 by themselves, but once they came together they won it all. I could go on and on about HOF players who couldn't win a ship by themselves, but were able to once given another allstar player they were able to, and I'm not sure how that takes away from their game.
5. Wall isn't going to the lakers
6. Pau/Bynum arn't going to the Warriors
7. Wall isn't going to the lakers
8. Stop being fanboys.
Only way I would think of doing this trade (which will never happen so I wonder why I am even bothering)
warriors get rid of Biedrins and Maggette along with John Wall.
for Odom and either Bynum or Gasol, but preferably Bynum. and possibly a 1st pick in 2011
And I also feel like we could do even better then that somewhere else if we got the first pick so I would at the VERY least shop around and create a bidding war.
Ok this trade worked on the ESPN NBA trade machine
Odom, Bynum, and Artest and at least one future first round.
Biedrins, Maggette, Wright and John Wall
Warriors starting lineup
If the Warriors got the 1st pick
Randolph(a younger Odom)
Gasol(Top ten player in the NBA, 3 time all star, and better than any big you guys could try to get anywhere else)
Bynum/Biedrins off the bench
-Pau is going to make 17 mill next year, and it goes up a mill every year for the next 3 years after that.
-Biedrins is getting paid 9 mill a year, the Warriors would want to trade him so they can get his contract of their hands.
-The Lakers could throw in Shannon or one of our 2nd rounders, maybe even Sasha
As you said it will never happen right? LOL the Warriors shoul hope this happens if not you guys will suck again next year.
I don't know why you think this trade would be so great for the Warriors. They are rebuilding and giving up a 20 or 21 year old player with unlimited potential for a 30 year old who doesn't really fit into their style of play wouldn't be all that beneficial. They player they want to move most is Ellis, he isn't a good locker room guy, has good value, and Steph Curry will be able to do everything he can plus some. It makes no sense why they would trade the #1 pick for Pau Gasol, and yes I do like Gasol. Drafting Turner would make sense, he would make Ellis even that much more expendable or drafting Wall and trading for Cousins and a role player or another pick in the draft would make more sense.
The Warriors already have Curry, what will John Wall really improve? How many years of missing the Playoffs are the Warriors willing to have? Pau gives them an instant allstar and a seasoned vet with a championship on his resume. They already have a enough youth as it is, and Gasol is obviously better than Favors, and Cousins.
Never once did I say John Wall would be a good fit or the answer, I thought Evan Turner would be a good option for them as would DeMarcus Cousins. Because John Wall is so coveted drafting John Wall and trading him for Turner or Cousins and most likely a bench player or another draft pick would seem to be a better choice. Gasol would make them better, but Golden State isn't one player away from making the playoffs in the West where you have to win close to 50 games to be an 8 seed. No matter how good you may think that lineup looks on paper, they would fair about the same as the Grizzlies did this year.
The warriors are missing in inside presence and Gasol fits the bill, Turner is not going to be the answer especially in nellie ball
The warriors are missing in inside presence and Gasol fits the bill, Turner is not going to be the answer especially in nellie ball
Dude, It's not gonna happen. Wake Up
Gasol better then Durant is the dumbest tihng I have heard since someone said John Bryant should be drafted.
Wall spotted at the lakers game tonight
So?you realize that this has nothing to do with his future?he will be drafted by a team and he will have to play with them for 4 years
Khaled no shiit..Don't be to shure about that though, what if the Hornets, Warriors, Jazz, or the Twolves win the lottery tonight? We could steal Wall or Rubio. If we don't no biggie we are going to sign Kyle Lowry in the offseason to a offer that the Rockets won't be able to resign him to. We will improve his jumper, then we will draft Scottie Reynolds to play in the backcourt with him.
Gasol/Mbenga/Jerome Jordan or Omar Samhan
Lol you realize the Lakers are already over the cap? they cant make a huge because all they have is their mid level exception, Rockets have his bird right so they can go over the cap to get him.
You realize Fisher's 5 mill is expiring, Adam Morrison's 5 mill is expiring, Farmar's 1.8 expiring? Shannon Brown will be traded for Derozan in the sign and trade for Bosh.
You realize the Rockets have to give Brooks his extension next season,and Lowry wants to be a starter? If the Rockets want to match the Lakers great, we will force them to spend atleast 5mill a year on a back up point guard lmao, Lowry wants to start so he will be very unhappy all season long.
Yes but they have Kobe Bryant, Pau Gasol, Ron Artest Luke Walton, Sasha Vuvacic, Lamar Odom, ans Andrew Bynum all under contract next year and their total salaries are over 78 million (didnt count all the combined thousand) way over the projected cap of 65 mil.
Other teams can offer more money. I agree theres a decent chance he goes to the Lakers, but they cant offer more money than most teams, if he does go it will because the only point guard he has to compete with is Shannon Brown (if he uses his player option), and to win a championship.
Therevenger you are an idiot, there is no hope in trying to explain elementary math to you.
Im just saying Rockets could offer as much as they want (even a max contract) to Lowry because they have his bird rights.
Wait what did i say thats not true?
Kyle Lowry sad his decision will come down to winning and to start, there isn't a better place for winning and that will give him a starting position you retard, just remember you heard it here 1st.
As I stated, if he Rockets want to overpay for an unhappy backup point guard that will be great. At the end of the day we win, but I guarentee he will be a Laker if we don't land Rubio or Wall.
I said there is a decent chance he goes to La, but you said that La signing him to an offer that Houston cant match is untrue. And what math did i do wrong?
Lol i love how you guarantee hes coming when hes never said hes interested in coming there before, you guarantee a possibility, i agree theres a chance he comes, but He might go for a fatter contract with a team like New york if they strike out in free agency.
-21538 points, yet im the only one making you kids sound silly on a daily basis.
Look im not going to argue with you, Lowry has already stated his decision will come down to winning and to start, the Knicks aren't winners and they won't be anytime soon. Why would the Knicks sign Lowry, just to waste money? Toney Douglas is already giving them Lowry's production. Lowry is not that great of shooter, he would not be a good fit on the Knicks and your trying to tell me the Knicks are just going to overpay for him just to have someone? GTFOH. Kobe and Lowry have that Philly connection, Lowry will be in LA next year winning a championship book it chump.
Do you have inside sources or something? because i havent heard any rumors of him going to LA, their one of the teams that could offer him a starting job (which he said hes interested in getting) along with the Pacers, Knicks, Heat, Wizards and several other teams. Im predicting him to go to New York, more money, starting job, but he could go to the lake show.
First of all hes a good passer finisher and defender, players like Gallenari, need someone to get them the ball, Douglas is more of a combo guard off the bench guy, hes a good defender, but i doubt his offensive game, I think it would make a lot of sense his offensive numbers would go up, and he said his decision will come down to mainly playing time.
He would start over Douglas too, if New York doesnt get two Max players their the front runner in my opinion.
Well im here to tell you that the Pacers, Knicks, Heat, and Wizards are not winners. Lowry is a winner and he has a winning mentality, he doesn't want to suffer missing the playoffs again like he did this year. Lowry realizes that the Lakers are not the Pacers or those other terrible franchises that you mentioned, and he will come and get the exposure that he has been lacking his entire career. Lowry will get the most important goal on the Lakers, the ring.
Give me an article where he says hes looking to win? ive searched and he keeps saying hes interested in starting, and money will be a factor too.
Do me a favor and read this http://www.clublakers.com/nba-discussion/kyle-lowry-open-remaining-houst...
Do mea favor and read this http://www.clublakers.com/nba-discussion/kyle-lowry-open-remaining-houst...
I gave you the article, now the website has you waiting for it. Be patient, Lowry is coming to the champs.
Well still every player wants to win, i mean every player wants to win, and says they want to win no ones gonna sign someoner who doesnt want to win, i honestly think playing time is more important to him right now, as well as money, also Hes not a great fir for the triangle offense, i honestly dont think La will push after him too hard. Also Miami could definetly give him wins too.
Either your a drunk sorcerer, or your as bias as David
Because obviously you think you can see the future....