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Latavious Williams and the draft

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Latavious Williams and the draft

Is he automatically eligible for the draft or would he have to enter his name as an early entry player?


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Automatically Eligible,

Automatically Eligible, Which is Pretty Bad for Him
Because He still needs More Experience, But He has been improving as the Season Goes
On , And from what i heard he has a good work ethic and is willing to learn
which is good

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He's not NBA-ready at

He's not NBA-ready at anything, other than his freaky athleticism and good size. But he's automatically eligible, and a team will take a chance on him in the 2nd round.

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I think GM wise? It's a good

I think GM wise? It's a good thing.

He could be a late (50-60) 2nd round draft pick and still remain in the NBDL. He won't be a NBA player maybe for another 2 seasons but if someone wants his right- I say grab him

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Even if Latavious Williams

Even if Latavious Williams is the 60th pick in the draft, it would benefit him greatly. He's an "upside" pick, so whoever picks him can keep him on the bench or in the D-League for a season or two. The main benefit that Latavious would enjoy is the financial benefit. D-League players whose rights aren't owned by an NBA team only make about 12,000-24,000 a year. If selected with the 60th pick, he would eligible for a substantial, albeit non-guaranteed minimum salary of $450,000. All he would have to do is work hard in practice and show the coaches and upper management that he's improving his game.

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Yea I hope they change that

Yea I hope they change that rule. I don't get why a player should become automatically eligible once he plays one year of non-collegiate ball after HS or even after he leaves college prior to turning 22, like a Patrick Beverly who left after he was a Sophomore. What if the player wants to continue to develop wherever he is playing whether it be the D-League or Europe. That definitely has to be changed. Because theoretically, the player can improve his stock and become a higher pick later on, in one, two, or three more years. This is what I feel of Latavious, give him a couple more years, and he'd probably be a little more of a legitimate prospect.

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"Automatically Eligible,

"Automatically Eligible, Which is Pretty Bad for Him Because He still needs More Experience, But He has been improving as the Season Goes On , And from what i heard he has a good work ethic and is willing to learn which is good"

How is it a bad thing? The guy decided to pursue a career playing professional basketball. Getting drafted is not in any way the be all end all for professional basketball. The guy was never regarded that highly by NBA people, so the fact that he wasn't completely over his head in the NBDL is some accomplishment but can also be an indictment of the overall quality of the NBDL. If he wants to keep chasing an NBA dream, he can stay in the D-League for another couple years, otherwise he can go to Europe or Asia and make decent money. It isn't like his basketball life will end if he doesn't get drafted. It doesn't even mean his NBA life will end if he doesn't get drafted.

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But lets just say in two

But lets just say in two years, he tears up the D-League or Europe, and is regarded as a lottery prospect or something. That development would greatly benefit him, and he would have a couple years guaranteed and make way more money in the NBA.

Its not a bad thing entirely, as his basketball career isn't coming to an end, but I would rather have somewhat control of the situation, especially when I'm projected late 2nd to undrafted...

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I don't think that is a rule

I don't think that is a rule that has to be changed. Its a gamble by their part leaving high school or college to play overseas or in the D-league. Patrick Beverly got drafted in the 2nd round last year got signed by the Heat and then went back overseas to continue his development. You can't honestly say that Latavious Williams went to the D-league this year and didn't expect to get drafted in 2010. Entering the draft is a gamble and if your not prepared to deal with not getting drafted or going late then you should have went to or stayed in college.

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"he tears up the D-League or

"he tears up the D-League or Europe, and is regarded as a lottery prospect or something. That development would greatly benefit him, and he would have a couple years guaranteed and make way more money in the NBA."

That is completely foolish reasoning. How would going undrafted and signing a free agent contract hurt him in that instance? NBA teams are not prohibited from giving players in the NBDL or Europe contracts even if they weren't drafted, and the amount he would sign for would be a truer gauge of his abilities than the rookie scale.

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"You can't honestly say that

"You can't honestly say that Latavious Williams went to the D-league this year and didn't expect to get drafted in 2010. Entering the draft is a gamble and if your not prepared to deal with not getting drafted or going late then you should have went to or stayed in college."

Going to the NBDL out of high school is a gamble, but he took it. Frankly, he has done well with it regardless as to whether he gets drafted or not. He has showed his willingness to work and act like a professional. It isn't as if he will end up playing for gas money in some semi-pro league because of his decision. Going undrafted would not be that big of a deal for a guy who is already in the minor leagues. He'll catch on with someone for the summer league, and if he performs well enough there (where I am sure his D-League experience will be helpful) he can get a training camp invite. His arrow would still be pointed up.

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"That is completely foolish

"That is completely foolish reasoning. How would going undrafted and signing a free agent contract hurt him in that instance? NBA teams are not prohibited from giving players in the NBDL or Europe contracts even if they weren't drafted, and the amount he would sign for would be a truer gauge of his abilities than the rookie scale."

Come on your talking about something entirely different. I'm talking about a scenario of strictly draft maximization. And you just twisted and manipulated into something else. Obviously if he goes undrafted and at some point, he could sign for w/e his true value is. But thats clearly the more difficult path. As opposed to lets say 3 years remove from HS playing professionally wherever and being in a position to go in the lottery. I just would want the kid to have control of when his name enters the NBA. Those kids in Europe play professional and they have control of when they can enter.

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I didn't twist anything. You

I didn't twist anything. You made the statement as to what if Latavious Williams becomes a lottery-caliber player in two years, and all I did was point out if he was to do so NBA teams would still be able to sign him. Where is the twisting? The only difference is that a team won't carry an ill-prepared Williams on their roster like they would an ill-prepared draft pick. If he gets to the point in his development where he can help an NBA team, they'll find him. They don't have do not call list of all early entrants who didn't get drafted. If they can play, they'll get a chance.

He chose to take an unconventional path, so taking the more difficult road is not new to him.

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I think if he stays one more

I think if he stays one more year in the D-league, he'll benifit greatly because that way he will only get better. showing that he can improve and willing to work hard.

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BothTeamsPlayedHard It's a

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It's a pretty bad thing considering, if he had a good 2 or 3 more years he could have been
a 1st Round Pick and Make even MORE MONEY and a GUARANTEED CONTRACT
And because he IMPROVED he could Get a Bigger Chance of Making
A Rotation In The NBA , Instead of Settling for a Lower Pay Conract, Less Exposure
League In Europe or China.

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BTPH, I don't know why you

BTPH,

I don't know why you quoted me and then pretty much re worded what I said. All I said that if Williams wasn't ready to take a gamble then he shouldn't have done it in response to the comment about it being unfair that he could be playing like a lottery pick next year in the D-League. I think Williams was well aware of the risks, and I agree with you he isn't in a bad spot, I think it will take him a couple years but he reminds me of Amir Johnson who after his first year in Toronto will be getting some serious looks when he becomes a free agent.

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"BothTeamsPlayedHard It's a

"BothTeamsPlayedHard
It's a pretty bad thing considering, if he had a good 2 or 3 more years he could have been
a 1st Round Pick and Make even MORE MONEY and a GUARANTEED CONTRACT
And because he IMPROVED he could Get a Bigger Chance of Making
A Rotation In The NBA , Instead of Settling for a Lower Pay Conract, Less Exposure
League In Europe or China."

If he is the kind of player you think he will be in two or three years, there is absolutely nothing keeping an NBA team from giving him a guaranteed contract. Wes Matthews went undrafted. He played well, and this summer will likely get a guaranteed multi-year extension that will be in excess of 45 of the 60 rookies who were taken. It really does not take much as the rookie scale does not pay non-lottery picks that much. If Matthews gets a three year for a total of $6.5 million deal (completely reasonable given what Dahntay Jones signed for last summer), he will be making the same amount of money over the first four years of his career as Ty Lawson will as a first rounder.

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