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The OKC Thunder

Last I saw Kevin Durant guarding Kobe. I don't think KD can truly stop Kobe but one has to wonder, should the Thunder consider starting KD at the 2 and Jeff green at the 3 and get 3-4 big men this offseason. I mean the Lakers don't even respect Thabo when he is on the floor offensively. And if KD can do a decent job guarding 2's, why not? And I think we all agree Jeff Green isn't a full time 4. OKC right now lokks like they can be a good team but can they contend for championships with undersized finesse bigs?

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My Opinion: Depends, What do

My Opinion:
Depends, What do you think about James Harden?
If You Switch Durant To the 2 and Green at the 3
Than That Means Harden wont be Starting and be a 6th Man in his time
with the Thunder
With That Said, i think they should
Imagine Westbrook at Point Durant at SG Green at the 3(his true Position) 2 Legit
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and Harden as your 6th Man which every Playoff Contending Team Needs

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theres not enough data to

theres not enough data to even think about this. he checked kobe for a good 5min. you would need to see how he does for awhole game. i also dont like the idea of taking him further away from the basket when hes such a good rebounder and having him expend more energy on defense cheaking faster 2guards for awhole game which would effect his offense. this is why kobe spends alot of time on worst offensive players as well as lebron then in the fourth they guard the other teams best players in alot of cases

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They already had Durant at

They already had Durant at the 2 and Green at the 3 for all of the 2007-08 season and during that starting run of 0-16, or whatever it was, to start last season...It didn't work well. Durants a 3, he plays better at the 3. Green is a 3 too, but I'd rather have my 3rd best player play out of place then my franchise player play out of position.

You make it sound like you have to have 5 guys who can average 15 points a game to win a championship, but Ben Wallace, Rodman, Bowen all have rings. Thabo ended up finishing top10 in the defensive player of the year votes, having him come of the bench would be a waste of his skills. Would you rather your best defensive player guard Kobe or Sasha Vujacic, Broy or Martell Webster, Tyreke Evans or Donte Green?

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Your right fastdan

The Thunder rotation is good right now for their roster all they need to do is add a big man and they can go far in the playoffs.

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fastdan hit it right on the

fastdan hit it right on the nose. Besides if you look at who Jeff Green was compared to before he was drafted you will see why he works as a 4 too. He is compared to Lamar Odom. Odom can play both the SF and PF and play it well. As can Green. Odom yes, is the better player. But Green is young he has the potential to develop to a great 4 player. This system works better for the Thunder. Thabo should not be respected offensively. he can't shoot the ball to save his life. The only he can do well is defend. Practically every team has a legitimate scoring threat at the 2 position. I think Brooks realizes and this and this is why he starts Thabo at the two, to immediately give that threat a disadvantage and have to score against one of the toughest defenders in the league. Sounds like a winning strategy to me. So far I like their starting 5 except for they need a better Center then Krstic. They do need a big man presence, your right but at what position. I think Center is the way they will go.

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Green is doing very good at

Green is doing very good at the 4 right now. I didn't see once last night when Pau just backed him down under the basket. He kept him a good distance from the basket and forced him to make shots over him as opposed to free layups. Also, I really don't think a 6' 10" SG would be a good idea. Ever. I mean yeah, he did good on Kobe, but let's not kid ourselves...he's nowhere near the athlete he used to be and lost much of his quickness. I love Durant (Huge Thunder fan), but I really doubt he can stay in front of someone like Wade

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How would it help OKC to

How would it help OKC to have Durant expend that kind of energy trying to guard Kobe? They needed 30-35 free throws to get enough offense to beat the Lakers, and you are suggesting taking their only star and have him try to take on the task of guarding Kobe? Ehhhh.

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this question was for the

this question was for the future of the team more than this playoff series. does everyone think this team can compete for championships with this core group of guys? and i dont think u need all 5 starters to average 15, i just think the offense would be smoother with a better offensive threat than thabo. rodman & big ben were big guys that didnt draw an extra defender in the paint and bowen was money from 3. westbrook, green, and durant can all be elite defenders. and they wont need kd to get 30 a night with westbrook, green and harden off the bench. and lets not forget, despite OKC's youth, they are a good defensive team that will only get better. they wont need 110 points a game to win. in my mind they could be like 2004 pistons, except alot younger and better offensively.

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Oklahoma City isn't winning

Oklahoma City isn't winning a title with the roster they have now. Other than Durant, I'm not that impressed. Green is a guy. Thabo is a bench player. Krstic is a backup center. Westbrook looks good blowing by Fisher, but who doesn't. Harden finally hits a shot in the playoffs, and all of a sudden he wasn't a guy drafted to be a shooter only to do so really poorly as a rookie. Is Ibaka going to be the next incredibly bad reincarnation of Chris Andersen whose incredibly poor skill set is offset in some eyes because he is long and can block shots. In what way are they like the 2004 Pistons. That team had 5 All-Stars, Okur, and then rounded out the rotation with Corliss Williamson, Lindsey Hunter, and Elden Campbell. OKC is much more similar to those crummy one-and-done Bulls teams early in Jordan's career where Jordan had to go off for a big number for them to have a chance to win. The Thunder are no different. If Durant is laboring, the Thunder stinks. They need to get him a real second and third option before they'll ever sniff the Finals.

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btph

it seems to me you just plain dont like durant and the thunder. u were the only one in kenny smiths bold statement to say it was absurd. im saying with a couple rugged strong defensive bigs they could defeat teams with their defense ala 2004 pistons. i mean westbrook could be what baron davis should have been. durant is a guy that can carry this team on offense. if anything this team has a chance to be better than the 2004 pistons. i agree green is just a guy and thabo is a bench guy and harden has been disappointing. but this team has the chance to hold teams in the 90s so i dont think it would kill them to have durant guard 2s. they do need 1 more scorer(probably a low post threat) but westbrook can be the 2nd option on this team.

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Because I think that LeBron

Because I think that LeBron James is head and shoulder better than Durant does not mean I don't like Durant. I do. All my statement in that other thread means is that I have the ability to watch basketball and recognize the greatest player of his generation when I see it. I don't think it is that difficult a task.

Now, my other problem with your post is that you agree with everything I said about Green, Harden, Thabo, and Krstic but somehow then tried to up your comparison to the 2004 Pistons. OKC is about one player. It has a top ten talent in Durant. They have to get a better cast around them to compete for a title. If you think Westbrook can be the second best player on a title team, then you are going against history. Turnover prone point guards who shoot 41 percent from the field with little range outside 15 feet do not have a ton of rings. The one who does is Rajon Rondo, but he was the 5th option on that Boston team that won the title.

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westbrook is like 20 years

westbrook is like 20 years old. im sure the turnovers will diminish some as he matures and he has better range than rondo who most(not myself) feel is a top 5 point guard. durant is a legit number 1 option. westbrook will only improve. green is a glue guy as well as harden. maynor thabo and ibaka are good bench players. i think they are the core players that help make this a successful basketball team. everyone else i dont consider part of the future. im saying that if they get a post player that can draw a double team on occasion and with another shooter and couple of rebounding bigs, i can see them winning with their defense ala 2004 pistons but with better offensive players. and i know they may never get a post player they need. and in that case no this team probably wont win a championship.

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