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Willie Warren

Did he sign with an agent yet?.....For some odd reason alot of people don't like Willie Warren & disagree with me about him being a steal in the draft. I think steal because he has a nice game with him & he can take over games @ any giving moment, he's a very physical player in the Billups mold that gets to the rack @ will. Someone will gamble on him & his character issues along with Stephenson's just watch.


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I agree,

Willie Warren has been overlooked alot lately. I remember last year, if he wouldve declared was projected to have been a lottery selection.

That kid has alot of game. He just needs to refine on some of his skills and translate it to the nba game.

I just hope he wont turn into a Javaris Crittenton type player.

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His shot selection was

His shot selection was pretty awful this year and I think he proved he isn't a main guy, in my opinion he is a complimentary player and not to say he won't be successful but that is why he has fallen out of the lottery. If a team picks him up in the late 1st or 2nd, I think it'd be a pretty good gamble because he still has some potential, but he could also fade away too. Id take him in the 2nd with a non-guaranteed contract.

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my point exactly everyone

My point exactly everyone overlooks him especially because of the injury,and I think if it weren't for that & this upcoming arrest he would slide into the 1st rd, but he still has a chance.

Has he signed with an agent yet to make it official?

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He's just like Randy Foye. I

He's just like Randy Foye. I think he can be the steal as well if he falls to the 2nd round. He's a very very talented offensive player, if people didn't notice. He's shown he's not a top option, but he can play with NBA talent around him. He only needed Blake Griffin to be great as a freshman, and he'll have more than just 1 NBA level talent around him in the NBA to help him get shots.

As long as he doesn't try to be a PG, he'll be a very effective in the L and he'll be more effective than Crittenton.

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Free Willie

The Lakers will pick him up without a doubt if he is on the board, and he will reach his potential with the best organization in basketball.
Kobe has been teaching this kid for years http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLAsaPeZJZk

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I think he'll be gone before

I think he'll be gone before then. There are alot of teams that need a PG/SG ahead of the Lakers

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Lakers pick is like the last

Lakers pick is like the last pick in the draft lol

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They have the 43rd but

They have the 43rd but believe me when I say that the Knicks Pacers & Heat will take a guard in the 2nd rd ahead of them possibly Warren

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Warren isn't NBA ready

The lottery will help out a lot this year when trying to figure out where players will land. The Lakers can move up the board and easily pass up the Heat and the Pacers.

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Warren isn't NBA ready

The lottery will help out a lot this year when trying to figure out where players will land. The Lakers can move up the board and easily pass up the Heat and the Pacers.

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Warren isn't NBA ready

The lottery will help out a lot this year when trying to figure out where players will land. The Lakers can move up the board and easily pass up the Heat and the Pacers because we have the Grizzles 2nd round pick.

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Warren isn't all that NBA ready

The lottery will help out a lot this year when trying to figure out where players will land. The Lakers can move up the board and easily pass up the Heat and the Pacers because we have the Grizzles 2nd round pick.

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Warren isn't all that NBA ready

The lottery will help out a lot this year when trying to figure out where players will land. The Lakers can move up the board and easily pass up the Heat and the Pacers because we have the Grizzles 2nd round pick.

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Warren isn't all that NBA ready

The lottery will help out a lot this year when trying to figure out where players will land. The Lakers can move up the board and easily pass up the Heat and the Pacers because we have the Grizzles 2nd round pick.

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Warren isn't all that NBA ready

The lottery will help out a lot this year when trying to figure out where players will land. The Lakers can move up the board and easily pass up the Heat and the Pacers because we have the Grizzles 2nd round pick.

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Lakeshow

The Lakeshow will have tons of options to replace Farmar, if Warren is gone by time its our pick we will still have our choice of Landesburg, Mccamey,Stephenson,Fredette,Collins, Vasquez, Randle, and Armon Johnson.

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Warren will be a steal....

I think Willie Warren will be a steal. Last year we were talking Top 10. I see him being a Rodney Stuckey-like player. He is a nice combo G, just had a bad year. Guards will his combo style of game from last years draft class are doing well.

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"He's just like Randy Foye.

"He's just like Randy Foye. I think he can be the steal as well. He's a very very talented offensive player, if people didn't notice."

Why spend a pick on Warren when Washington is not going to tender Foye a qualifying offer and a team can pick him up for nothing? Warren wasn't as good as his freshman year hype. He benefited greatly from the attention given to Griffin. That said, I'm quite certain Warren, Terrico White, Dominique Jones, and Jordan Crawford grade out to be very close by most teams as players. The only difference is that White and Jones don't have character baggage.

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Foye is a good offensive

Foye is a good offensive player. He just wasn't a good fit for the Wizards future. He doesn't defend very well, and he scores well (2 thing that Wizards have in abundance) while being sporadic in his PG abilities. You can't fault Willie Warren for Randy Foye's not into a teams plan. That makes no sense. He's a comparable player, but it's not a fact that Warren will land in the exact same situation sir. No need to bring up Foye not fitting in a teams plan to downplay the obvious talent Warren has displayed in college.

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Where did I write any of

Where did I write any of those things you claimed I did? I wrote in response to you saying Warren will be a steal that the player you compare him to will be a free agent and any team that would desire Warren could also sign a comparable player for little money. To me, you described a middling prospect. Don't get mad because your description of the player doesn't match your definition of a draft steal.

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So because a player is a

So because a player is a free agent he is a middling prospect? What your saying has no weight and makes no sense

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I think he'll be a steal,

I think he'll be a steal, don't act like him "not being a number 1 option" is such a big knock. Theres like 2 of those players in a draft max. His game is more suited for the NBA and if he gets his head on he could be a major scorer.

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I want the Celtics to take

I want the Celtics to take him or Larry Sanders.

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I don't think the Celtics

I don't think the Celtics will gamble on him with all those other highly touted 2's out there

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"So because a player is a

"So because a player is a free agent he is a middling prospect? What your saying has no weight and makes no sense"

No because you compared him to a dime-a-dozen guard makes him a middling prospect. Most draft picks can succeed if put in a great situation, few have the ability to succeed in any and every situation. Randy Foye clearly is not in the latter category. What part of this doesn't make sense to you?

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If Randy Foye went in the

If Randy Foye went in the 2nd round he would've been considered a sleeper prospect. And Foye also as I've said just didn't fit with the Wizards, they already have a roster full of talented offensive players who don't defend. And to make it worse, Foye was a sporadic PG. Put Willie Warren in a situation where he can just score off the bench and have a role where he can create offense and not have to worry about too much else and he'll have a high level of success, especially for a 2nd round pick. The Foye comparison is about the way he plays the game, not the way his career will pan out. That's why it makes no sense. I don't think a comparison is about Warren putting up the same stats, but Randy Foye is who I compare him to. And Foye was the #6 pick in his draft class, so if Warren plays similar to a guy who was a top 10 pick and he goes in the 2nd round, he qualifies as a sleeper to me.

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"And Foye was the #6 pick in

"And Foye was the #6 pick in his draft class, so if Warren plays similar to a guy who was a top 10 pick and he goes in the 2nd round, he qualifies as a sleeper to me."

Are you failing to grasp that Foye isn't that good? It doesn't matter when mediocre to average players get drafted or if they don't get drafted. Guys who fill out rosters can be found anywhere. Difference makers matter. If you compare Willie Warren to Randy Foye, then how is it that teams are "sleeping" on someone who by your assessment is just another guy?

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He's good enough to average

He's good enough to average 15 ppg. Any 2nd round pick that can get in the NBA, which I think Warren will do,15 ppg is pretty good. Good enough to qualify you as a sleeper. Warren can make a team better if used right, just like any player. Your arguing more about Foye than Warren, who this topic is about.

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I don't think Warren is

I don't think Warren is anything special, I'm sorry that I have to spell everything out to you. He can score 15 ppg, but most guards can. Randy Foye can put up 15 ppg on a bad Minnesota team. That didn't mean he was any good. I can find ten of those in a draft weak on guards. Warren won't be able to do it on a good team. Teams that win don't want point guards who can't create for their teammates, suffer major turnover problems, mediocre shooters, and can't get along with their coaches. What does he do that separates him from any number of other combo guards who can also put up empty numbers on bad teams. Those guys aren't sleepers.

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Oh ok. We'll alot of other

Oh ok. We'll alot of other people do besides me for the reasons I've stated. He'll benefit from the change from college to the NBA. I'm willing to bet on it. As long as he doesn't try to play PG, which he probably won't have to do alot if at all. He shown he's not a PG, so no need to force it again. He wasn't real turn over prone or a bad shooter as a freshman though when he played off the ball.

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What does he do that is

What does he do that is special? What does he do better than White, Crawford, or Jones? Not get to the line, not create for others, not shoot a high percentage, not show any ability to lead or live up to the hype? He is just another guy. If he matures, he is good enough to be in the league. If not, he isn't good enough to be a headache.

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He's way better off the

He's way better off the dribble than all 3, which has to count for alot. And he defends at least as good as them. He also has more potential than all of them...He will be able to score though. He's not going to be a star, but if he slips to the 2nd round he'll be a sleeper.

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He is not better than

He is not better than Dominique Jones or Terrico White off the the dribble, so that cannot count for anything.

What does he do that makes you say he has more potential? You say that he will be able to score, but he isn't that good of a shooter and doesn't get to the line. You say he'll be a sleeper if he goes in the second round, but what makes him a better prospect than the comparable players who will go ahead of him? Nothing, and teams will have to factor in that he is a knucklehead. So him possibly going in the second round - and I happen to think he'll go in the first- would have little to do with teams sleeping on his abilities and everything to do with their being better alternatives.

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NONE of them have better off

NONE of them have better off the dribble games. Are you serious? Terrico White's below average ball-handling was the main thing that made him such an underachiever this season. He couldn't create much off the dribble other than the occasional straight line. Dominique Jones was a slasher becasue of his 1st step and strength much more than his handle. None of them create offense like Warren, who can change direction, hesistate and pull up, or cross you over and go to the rim.

It doesn't matter that you think he'll go 1st round. I wouldn't mind if he does. My statement was, if Willie Warren GOES IN THE 2ND ROUND he'll be a sleeper. I can't call him a sleeper if he goes in the 1st round.

He has more potential because he's young, a better off the dribble player than all 3, and despite showing underwhelming PG ability he's still a better playmaker than all 3 of the guys listed. And he's a pretty good shooter, more easily seen in his freshman season than last year. Let's not fool ourselves into thinking a player thats a 20 year old Sophomore in college can't improve alot more. He has a good deal of upside.

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