Greg Monroe has officially declared for the NBA Draft
I am not surprised he has decided to do this. I knew there was a chance he would stay, but it would have shocked me either way. Here's the link, http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2010/news/story?id=5104754
Now that he has put his name in, no way do I see 4 or 5 guys from Kentucky being drafted in the lottery.
I see the sixers maybe drafting him.
Finally its about time. Where do you think he will land? I'm thinking maybe 5-8 range. With his skills teams are sure to take a chance on his lack of motivation and dominating like we all know he can.
But even if his name was not in the lottery I still don't see 4 or 5 guys from Kentucky in the lottery. With or with out I only see 3 Kentucky players in the lottery. John Wall, Demarcus Cousins, and Patrick Patterson. Bledsoe and Orton will not make the lottery because while they are talented but both are question marks because of their roles at Kentucky this year. Questions marks to me do not belong in the lottery except for when that question mark has a high upside like Hassan Whiteside. Bledsoe and Orton do not have a high upside, not to me at least.
dwill, please enlighten me about Greg Monroe's lack of motivation???
Did you not see him in the tourney game against Ohio? (How else did Ohio beat Georgetown?)And then during the season before the division championships he had sub par games against high quality opponents. I expected a lot more from him this season and unfortunately I was not very impressed. Also if you look at his profile on this site they mention his lack of motivation as a weakness. I thought he would overcome that this season but apparently he did not.
I am pretty sure Ohio shot the lights as well against Georgetown, and he is not the sole reason for them getting booted in round 1. Personally I think with the right coach he will become a very very good player, he can do it all for a big man as well as do things that most big man don't do like his passing abilities. He is labeled as soft, but rather he is a finesse guy.
Im going out on a limb here! If Philly can get Greg Monroe, they have to get a good balanced coach. IMO, they should go after Byron Scott. Byron Scott over that team, I believe, could get Philly back to relevance in the NBA. Iggy, up-and-coming Jrue Holiday (gulp), Speights on the low block and Greg on the high block and T. Young every where else, Byron would have that team running like crazy! Although this season pretty much sucked, Philly has maybe the most athletic team in the whole NBA. Add a coach who in his playing days would throw it down on occassion, and you have a recipe for something SERIOUS! Thats just my opinion lol
Here are some of his stats during the season against quality opponents.
vs Washington 15pts 7 boards. Result: win 74-66 (15 points is nice but only 7 boards for a guy his size he ought to get more.)
vs Old Dominion 15pts 7 boards. Result loss 61-57(once again same stats where is the motivation against a smaller yet quality opponent)
vs Marquette 9pts 10 boards. Result: loss 61-59 (only 9 points, Marquette was not ranked yet he still only had 9pts.)
vs Syracuse 8pts 4 boards Result: loss 56-73. (a very sub par game. I know syracuse played a tough zone defense but how did he only get 8pts and 4 boards and then all of sudden 15 pts 10 boards and 7 assists against the SAME OPPONENT in the Division Championships? Too me it looks like a lack of motivation.
vs Duke 21pts 5 boards. Result: win 89-77 (only 5 boards surely he can get more with his size. I know Duke rebounds well but with his size he ought to get his fair share, 5 boards is not that good for a PF/C)
vs Notre Dame 15 pts 4 boards result: loss 78-64 (again just 4 boards and this was without Luke Harangody. He should get more boards then just 4 without having to worry about Harangody.
I agree with you he needs to right coach, but how do you label these stats as a Finnesse type games? (they are very soft, I expect more boards) If he can pass, shoot,and rebound then show that in all of your games, not just a select few against non quality opponents. A guy of his talent, sub par games should not happen or just happen very occasionally from those stats that is not occasionally. 6 games where he had a sub par performance. I only expect 1 or 2 with NCAA's short season.
While I can somewhat understand what you are saying, those stats dont translate into a lack of motivation. 1) This is college... Some of the most unmotivated players in college can average 20-10 i.e. Michael Beasley. 2.) Greg Monroe came into Georgetown about 30 pounds heavier than what they recruited him thinking he needed to get bigger to play better but it did nothing but hinder him. at So to counteract that, he shed those pounds back off while still getting lessons from a good coach in John Thompson III. Things like that take something called motivation. 3.) You can't expect every 6'10 cat to be a banger, dunking everything in sight, because that very well may not be their games. Greg IS a finesse ball player. Someone that size with that skill set must love the game to still be doing what hes doing. BUT, thats just my opinion...
Byron Scott would be a good coach for the 76ers to get Monroe. But so would Larry Brown, Rudy Tomjonavich, Jeff Van Gundy, Avery Johnson and I'm sure there are other quality coaches for this young team that could teach Monroe to be more dominant and motivate him for every game. Right now I do have the 76ers taking him but that could change if they end up hiring a poor coach.
I didnt mention Avery Johnson cuz I want him to go to the Bulls lol
Larry Brown said earlier this week that the Bobcats are his last stop. After them, hes done.
God, I pray we get him too. I feel he can be LaMarcus Aldridge meets Pau Gasol. I think he can be an All-Star. He's a big talent. I tink he wrongfully labeled soft because he's a good passer and not a banger. Like knicksfan7 said, he's more finesse than soft.
Thats one heck of a combination! I like that
OK it might good fit..
but let's say we are looking at the time 3-4 years from now..let's say no bust potential from Greg and Speights both can score over 15 and get double double both likes to be on high post both needs ball...would they play 4 and 5? and wouldn't it be a problem defensively?
Based on potential and the chance that he is the real deal, you start Greg, keep Samuel Dalembert at the 5 starting, and bring Speights off the bench. I TOTALLY 4got about Dalembert. That changes alot. Thinking about it now, since the Speights and Monroe both like the high post and I dont see Speights tryna go to the blocks, he could be traded. Really, if Greg is what this site calls a less athletic Chris Weber, and IMO thats a big deal, then someone is going to have to go.
How many candles am I going to have to light in the name of Monroe not going to Golden State? Any other team. Sacramento, Washington, Detroit, New Jersey, Utah, Indiana... anyone else and I think he will be fine. If he goes to Nellie and Golden State, there might have to be a midnight vigil. It would just be an incredible waste of what should be a great career.
Monroe would be a very good fit in Philly. One thing's for sure: somehow, someway, Elton Brand has to go. He doesn't fit into their current or future plans. Is it me, or do undersized power forwards not named Charles Barkley peak early?
"Is it me, or do undersized power forwards not named Charles Barkley peak early?"
Power forwards who blow out their achilles tend to peak before the injury. Brand also is hurting from the fact that the Sixers can't shoot the ball and it limits the space he has to work with inside.
Monroe has to work on his shot, it'a extremely incosistent, I think he shot something like 20% from Mid Range this year. His handle is very good for a big though, plus he has good quickness and agility. I'm not sure he has the size of Gasol or the shot of Aldridge, but I like the Odom comparison.
Jelly or Syrup?
Yea Monroe would be an incredible fit in Philly IMO. With all those cutters, and then you add a big guy like Monroe who has very good court vision and knows how to pass extremely well for a big man, thats a dangerous combo. And adding a PF is not out of the question. Brand clearly is not a good fit for their style of offense, and if you are keeping Speights around their at least needs to be depth if not a quality starter over him and have Speights play as a 6th man.
Does he look familiar? OK, I'll stop now. I'm not gonna destroy another thread.