thoughts? they dont really need anybody but kobe is getting old and he'll need a replacement soon. Pau, lamar, and Ron are also in their high 20s or low 30s and after them they dont really have anybody other than bynum and possibly shannon brown.....
They have a mid second round pick, and since their bench is pretty weak, they'll probably just take some upperclassman who can play a few positions. I doubt they'll be anyone of value left on the board at that point..
They could use a back-up center, Art Paraoukouski or hwever you spell his last name, seems intriguing if he falls there...Also, I think Da'Sean Butler will be there, why not select him, he'll be good in a year.
someone like stephenson or sylven landesburg would be nice....they'll provide depth and scoring at the sg position
the lakers are not likely to rely on anyone they draft in the second round. Im not sure anyone in the second round is gonna be better then josh powell, jordan farmar, sasha vujacic, or luke walton. If they get someone good, great. But i dont rely on second rounders to come in and make a difference. last years second rounder didnt even make the team
nobody can really score off the bench other than lamar and shannon and they're both way too inconsistent...bynum is injury-prone and dj is not really the best second option...and after kobe the lakers have sasha...a major drop off....so they'll be thin at the sg position( i consider shannon a pg)...and probably the main reason the lakers regressed this year is because of poor defense and bench play...ohh and a poor mindset
yeah, but you dont rely on a second rounder to bring answers. If a second rounder ends up being a steal and can help, great . But if you are trying to win a title and you have holes in your team, you better go and get someone in free agency. If a guy falls to the second round, its probably because he is not a sure nba player.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Lakers do get a good player in the second round. A lot of talented players are leaving school, and players like De'Sean Butler, Lance Stephenson, and others might be around still. Who knows, they could get another boozer or Arenas
they are about 45 million over the salary cap so a free agent might be too costly especially if they are brought in to make an impact...if they are to repeat as champions they need to get some good bench players or role players becasue their starters are gettin old ...that is why this upcoming offseason is so important because they'll need to add some quality players so the starters might possibly have one more chance at a title next season before they hit their drop-off.... and yes second round diamond in the roughs are possible...
The lakers should draft DaSean Butler to fill in for adam morrison and lance stephenson or willie warren to take over farmars spot
at the 58th pick but yeah someone like stephenson or warren would be a nice addition to the lakers...maybe a power forward or center with the 58th pick...someone like art as mentioned above...but mainly a scorer and backup for kobe...
i know people dont think highly of the lakers bench, but i serioulsy doubt they get anyone better then sasha, farmar, brown, walton or powell in the second round. I've never been excited about second rounders because the majority are not gonna do anything. If it works out, great. I just would never rely on it.
43 and 58.
As you already know, the Lakers love to pick up european players in the second round so they dont have to come to the league this year and can develope overseas. BUT i think this year we actually need to strengthen our non existing bench.
43 should go to a pg like willie warren or sharron collins. i would also consider desean butler at this pick.
58 to the best available Sg,SF out there.
in this years draft is better than previous years and i think this draft is the only way to improve the lakers during this offseason...free agency is possible but they are over the cap and other than a trade which doesnt really seem possible cause nobody wants sasha or luke( well maybe minnesota cuz luke knows the triangle) because they're overpaid...a good bench is important for a championship and as of right now the lakers dont have one
1st option Willie Warren
2nd option Lance Stephenson
with the 1st pick of the 2nd round
With the 2nd pick I think Da'Sean Butler will be available, because other teams will have a big pool of small fowards to choose from this year, teams are going to pass on Butler to to his injury.
The Lakers should also explore a trade for Luke Walton for a player like Darrington Hobson. The Twolves have so many picks this year, the Lakers could negotiate a deal with the Twolves to draft Hobson for Luke. I could see the Twolves trading a second rounder like Hobson for Luke, because Luke is very close to Kurt Rambis and he has a high iq of the triangle offense. Hobson can be a star one day with Kobe and Phil available to teach him everything he needs to learn.
we have shannon and jordon already...or fisher if he decides to come back...willie warren would be nice but i see him gone before the 43rd pick...so stephenson will be better...and after that i see them drafting a frontcourt player...they need a bit of depth in the frontcourt because bynum gets injured way too much...if the lakers are gonna trade luke to minnesota for hobson i wont see them drafting butler..they already have artest and odom
well if you think they can get key players with the 43rd and 58th pick, then i hope you are correct. Here are the the lakers second rounders over the last 10 seasons:
patrick beverly, chinemelu elonu, joe crawford, sun yue, marc gasol, ronny turiaf, von wafer, marcus douhit, luke walton, corey hightower
3 out of 10 were very good the other 7 are not in the league.
Here are the last 10 players picked 43rd:
patrick ewing jr
2 absolute steals, 1 decent role player , and 7 guys who never did anything in the nba
I think you never rely on second rounders but if they work out, great.
You can't compare the 2nd rounds of the past to this draft. The draft has gotten better due to the rule the NBA has put in place, which doesn't allow players to come out of high school right away. Players are getting more developed in college, even if its just one year. As a result the draft has much more depth and talent to choose from. For example take a look at Lance Stephenson, he probably would of been taken in the 1st round last year if the rule wasn't in affect, but the 1 year of college has given scouts a better feel of what kind of player Stephenson can be down the road. A franchise like the Lakers will be able to roll the dice on Stephenson because they can develop him at a slow pace. Ron Artest and Lamar Odom could be role models for Stephenson since he is a fellow New York native, they can keep him focused. You also have to remember that many underclassmen are declaring this year due to the fear of a lockout in 2011. Any other year someone like Stephenson,Warren, and Butler would be 1st rounders without a doubt. The Cavs are going to regret not having a pick in this years draft. I think Lebron is going to the Nets, I have said it all year long and the Cavs are going to have to wait for the more humble Harrison Barnes to fill the sf spot that Lebron is going to leave.
aren't best options for improving a team but it seems like the only option for the lakers at this point...the starters are getting older and theyre bench isnt very good...they're over the cap and nobody really wants to trade with the lakers( hopefully minnesota does)...and btw the second round in this draft is better than previous drafts... a lot of first rounders are falling in the 2nd round so hopefully the lakers get somethin good out of this draft...
i think who they draft depends on what they do at pg. Farmar and fisher are both free agents. If they bring them back, then the lakers can just go with best player available. If not, they need to address the pg position.
Kobe getting older but man he far from his limits,he is the greatest player in the Nba (Lebron is awesome to), but trust me after Kobe gets his rest and has surgery he'll be good. Here my Top 5 picks for who they should get in the 2nd round.
4.Da'Sean Butler/West Virgina
1.Willie Warren/Oklahoma (If he's pick this late there some team's that need a new GM)
Plus Kobe Bryant isn't going to need any Replacement anytime soon!!!!
well then if this draft is deeper then the past that means they should have a better chance to get help. But if you last until the 43rd pick, sorry if i dont get excited about how you are gonna come in and help right away. If they can play, great. But im not holding my breath.
Farmar will be gone and so will Morrison. I have no doubt in my mind that these two will have a hard time finding a team next year in the NBA. So many teams have better point guards than Farmar, I truly don't know if he will make a roster next season.
Lebron to Newark? haha
I say the Cavs win it all this year
he goes to the Knicks for 3 yrs
after 3 yrs the nets will be in brooklyn and then he will go
farmar could be starting for the Heat and the Knicks right now...and I truly believe that...you cant tell me arroyo and duhon are better than him
if both farmer and fisher go, i see them drafting demetry mcCamey...strong point who could shoot the 3 ball..something the lakers lack...so it'll probably be lance stephenson with the 43rd pick and Art, demetry, or desean with the 58th pick
I have the Lakers picking Sylven Landesburg and Chares Garcia in my mock
Farmar not even make an nba roster next year? We defenitely disagree on him then. I think he can be a darn good player if he wasnt in the triangle system. name one pg who was a ball handling slashing aggressive type who did well in the triangle. Paxson, armstrong, kerr, harper, shaw, fisher all of them were slow it down shooter/defenders who werent known for their pentrating or dishing or running the court. Farmar can start for a few teams imo.
sylven to provide some scoring and depth at the sg position and garcia to provide depth at the two foward positions...
I think they should draaft the best player still there. If willie Warren is still there at 43 then that is the steal of the draft
this guy can shoot and pass and penetrate I think the Rodney stuckey comparisons aren't that good. He is a much more talented and versatile Ben Gordon. I think he could flourish in the triangle
system he's big and he's capable of being a good defender so he fits the profile. If he's not there then I would take Craig brackins he's a pf that can do alot of the things Lamar odom can do I think he should have stayed in the draft last yr he went fom late lotto to second round. Anyway with the last pick pick de Sean butler he'll be a grant hill type of player(grant hill after the injuries and a little past his prime of course) but who wouldn't want that type of role player of the bench? I think he might even become a lesser ginobili. Not as athletic in terms of speed and flexibility but still a crafty player. I really hope we get Warren though. If not Sherron Collins. Great site by the way
They need a point guard because Farmar is not coming back.
I do realize that the triangle is not the best system for Farmar, but what team could Farmar start for? Maybe the Knicks, but Duhon and Tony Douglas are better players than Farmar.
I could see them going after Alexey Shevd is RD 2. He has size and quickness as a PG so he will be a strong defensive presence against the new age PGs. They need a guy who can play D at the point given Fishers declining ability to keep up with the young/athletic pgs.
If the Lakers get a contributor, or even a guy who takes up a roster spot, in the second round I will eat my hat.