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Does Curry's last performance give him ROY?

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Does Curry's last performance give him ROY?

Last Night Curry had a monster line to Finish the season 42 9reb 8a 2stl . The final stat comparison between he and evans look like this:

Here are the numbers as of now? less then 5 games left

Curry Vs Evans

Western conf. Rookie of the month awards: 3(last 3) Vs (2) = Curry

Team Record: 26-56 Vs 25-57 = Curry

Points: 17.5 Vs 20.1 = Evans

Assist: 5.9 Vs 5.8 = Curry

Rebounds: 4.5 Vs 5.3 = Evans

Steals: 1.9 Vs 1.5 = Curry

Shooting fg/3pt/ft: 46.2/43.7/88.5 Vs 45.8/25.5/74.8 = Curry

30pt games= Curry

40pt Games= Curry

I know there is a lot of sensitive Reke fans out there...But as you can see Curry has out played him in 7 out of 9 statistical categories! To make the argument fair Reke has join the exclusive 20.5.5 club & curry has averaged more T.O. But with the final comparison what percentage would you give his chance on winning ROY?

I think he should win and give him a 55% chance of winning it


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I think Curry should win

I think Curry had a better rookie year, but Evans will have a better total career. The style Golden State (I hate that name) plays is perfectly suited for small quick gaurds and that works well for Curry. I heard they are taking away Dell Curry's vote for ROY. So there is one less vote for sonny boy. One stat I would like you to add would be minutes played per game?

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I really think it's Curry.

I really think it's Curry. Evans has been Good, but Curry really has took the league by storm. People are thinking about when the Kings were winning early too much. Yes the 20 5 & 5 is Awesome, but he has no other scorers on his team. Curry has had to share the ball with Monta Ellis, Corey Maggette, had the Stephen Jackson Distraction, & a Cuckoo Coach. Curry in my mind will be the better player. & he'll really be a Top 5 Point in the leauge by his 4th Year

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Minutes

Curry 36

Reke 37

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Wow did you even see the

Wow did you even see the team that Curry played against last night? Completely discount that game. he played against a bunch of bums who will never even be role players in the NBA.

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I think they both had a great rookie year but... 20 5 5

Reke is the 4th player including Jordan, Lebron, and the Big O to put up those numbers in his first
year.
Besides those first 5 or so games he was killing all year.
Curry made a push and made it interesting, but I think it was Rekes to lose and he didn't IMO.
I think Curry will be a all star in the long run and Reke will be a franchise player or close.

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You can also say Curry's

You can also say Curry's numbers are inflated by the system they play. Reggie Williams putting up over 15 a game is a joke. A bunch of D-Leaguers coming in putting up near all-star level numbers.

Also love how you "add" stats to make curry look better, such as 30 and 40 pt games.. And then discount the turnovers but barely mention them in the last sentence..

If you want to see I can do that to:

10+ Rebound games: Evans 7, Curry 2: Adv Evans

LOOK EVANS 1-0!!!! THE STATS SHOW IT

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30 & 40 pt games showed who

30 & 40 pt games showed who played big...I only showed positive stats...I could stress how much better of a shooter he was and point out his 3pt % if i wanted to point out the negative...These are typical stat comparisons

Also is doen't matter if you think his numbers are inflated because of the system...They are what they are!! & thats what you compare for ROY award...You put either of these guys on a winning team this yr & there numbers wouldn't be the same

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About 20.5.5, what if he

About 20.5.5, what if he averaged 19.5 .5 .5 what arguement would you have then? don't get me wrong, thats a special number but a lot has been made of that.

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'Reke 20-5-5 He's on a list

'Reke
20-5-5

He's on a list with Jordan, LeBron, Robertson..
No way in hell he doesn't get ROY.

And if anybody else should get it, it should be Jennings, he took his team to the playoffs.

Curry is 3rd if you ask me.

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Curry's numbers are

Curry's numbers are definetely inflated because of the team. GD plays such high tempo, and poorly on defense so he will get more boards and assists because of the sheer amount of possessions. Don't get me wrong, he's good but Tyreke is just that bit better in my opinion.

Whichever way you look at it, the '09 draft produced three great guards for the future in Evans, Curry and Jennings.

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BIG O rookie yr 30.5 pts

BIG O rookie yr 30.5 pts 10.1 reb 9.7 assist

Jordan rookie yr 28.2 6.5 reb 5.9 assist

Lebron rookie yr (18yrs) 20.9 5.5reb 5.9 assist

Now look at those numbers and tell me if you can put Reke in the category with those guys?? Maybe lebron but we know he is no Lebron James

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Reke's would but Curry's

Reke's would but Curry's would not. Reke will get the award for his dominance all season long, but Curry is a close second. And I think that if the warriors were actually healthy most of the year, they would be in the playoffs just like the Bucks are. Probably as a 7th or 8th seed. 20, 5 and 5 are just too much to overlook.

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Grant Hill rook yr 19.9 6.4

Grant Hill rook yr 19.9 6.4 5.0

Steve Francis rook yr 18.0 5.3 6.6

Look what Reke has done is not un heard of for a rook, their are guys who where awefully close! and maybe overall better. Funny thing about these to is that they were both voted Co-rookie of the yr in their yrs...

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guys what about co-rokies of the year.... i think that would be the best... its unfair to left one of this guys

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Its not that hard to score

Its not that hard to score 30 playing for the Warriors

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guys what about co-rokies of the year.... i think that would be the best... its unfair to left one of this guys

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I actually like knowing the 30 & 40 pt games

It is a good stat to show how dominant some of his games were. And it's not Curry's fault that he went to a better system fit for him. I am not emotionally connected to either team or player. Even though I thought Evans was gonna fall down to Minnesota's pick and was hoping one of the higher teams would've taken Rubio. So I can safely comment without seeming like a homer.

Curry has to share the ball alot more with the talent around him but with that run and gun style they play, they still put up a great amount of shots per game. Evans on the other hand is the main offense, with very little help. So the defense will focuss their attention on him. Much easier to shut down a team with only one main scoring threat rather than one with three or four legit scorers. Haven't seen the Kings play to much this year but I'm gonna assume that Evans had the ball the most running the pg. So with his TO being less, I can look at it both ways.

1 Evans handles the ball more per game and has less turnovers because he protects the ball or Curry is more prone to TO's because they run much more and that style causes more turnovers automatically.

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mouchy

You're quick to point out that LeBron's numbers were only at 18 years old.. But then you try and compare Tyreke(Who was only 19 to start the season) to guys like Francis and Hill who were 2 and 3 years older than him respectively to start their NBA careers.

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I just hate GS man lol.

I just hate GS man lol. Loved them when the system worked and they won games, but this shyt is a disgrace to bball. Startin 6'6 SGs at PF. GTFOH. That run n gun shyt is for the birds, any other coach would get fired. Play reall bball!!!

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I just hate GS man lol.

I just hate GS man lol. Loved them when the system worked and they won games, but this shyt is a disgrace to bball. Startin 6'6 SGs at PF. GTFOH. That run n gun shyt is for the birds, any other coach would get fired. Play reall bball!!!

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I just hate GS man lol.

I just hate GS man lol. Loved them when the system worked and they won games, but this shyt is a disgrace to bball. Startin 6'6 SGs at PF. GTFOH. That run n gun shyt is for the birds, any other coach would get fired. Play reall bball!!!

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Spencer this is true...But

Spencer this is true...But ultimately his accomphlishment should not be up in Camparison with what Jordan & Big O did. its closer to those later guys. with out stressing 20.5.5 and you look at the bare comparison its hard to deny Curry simpily had a better season. By the way for guys who dimiss Curry because of the "system":

Top NBA scoring teams
1 Phoenix 110.2
2 Golden State 108.8
3 Denver 106.5
4 Utah 104.2

I guess we should dismiss Nash, Billups, and Williams numbers as well too. Not much of a scoring diff

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http://www.teamrankings.com/n

http://www.teamrankings.com/nba/stat/field-goals-attempted-per-game

Most FG's taken per game:

1. GS: 86.5

Which is 2.5 more per game than Sacramento... About 205 more shots over the course of the season compared to Sacramento...

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I love when guys put up stats

It brings a little crediablity to the arguement. Thanks. Can someone put up the FG's taken between Curry and Evans. Do per game and total season if ya can please.

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i give it to evans. You cant

i give it to evans. You cant dismiss the fact that he completely outplayed curry the first few months. And evans was a lot closer to curry the last couple months then curry was to evans the first couple months. And bringing in wins is irrelevant. The warriors won 26 games to the kings 25. Thats not an edge for either of those sorry teams.

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spencer whats your point?

spencer whats your point? 2.5 is no diff & they were fifth..That adds to my argument because they shot virtually the same amount and sac scored outside the top 10...
Undeniable curry was just more efficient in every shooting category and shot less

Evans 7.4-16.2 FGA

Curry 6.6-14.3 FGA

Also how could Evans completely outplay curry the first 2 months & be closer to curry in the second half when he was behind curry in most stats & only finish 2.5 pts ahead, .8 rebs ahead. You can't have both. Either Evans outplayed dominated then got dominated or vice versa because the numbers are too close

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give curry plenty of credit

give curry plenty of credit for making it close and coming in second. But evans never hit a rookie wall. He brought it from day one. And the warriors play an offensive friendly system that can make anybodys stats look better. Hell deveans george lloked like he needed to retire the last few years with the mavs and lakers. Then he goes to golden state and he's dropping numbers agin becuase they dont care about shot selection or working it inside out.

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wasn't Curry a bench player

wasn't Curry a bench player in the beginning of the season?

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"I guess we should dismiss

"I guess we should dismiss Nash, Billups, and Williams numbers as well too. Not much of a scoring diff"

Yeah, that whole winning and losing thing doesn't matter at all. Perfect comparison. The Warriors scored a ton of points, and gave up a ton plus ten. It was a total clown show.

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lol it was a clown show but

lol it was a clown show but we are taking about offensive production not def. Don't discount his numbers because his team scores a lot...look at the other guys...Yes you can dismiss GSW as a team

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bottom line is tyreke averaged 20-5-5 . .
best overall player in the 09 class . .
best handles . .

plus he made some clutch plays this year compared to none for curry . .

reke is roy . .

curry's second . .

btw . . jennings would probably have averaged 25-5-5 in the GSW system . .
rubio would've put up crazy numbers in it . .

both guys are great players . .
but if either one of their teams get the 1st pick than they both lose their free reign of the team in favor of John Wall . .

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Tony are you nuts!! Jenning

Tony are you nuts!! Jenning shot 37% fg 37pt...system gives u shot attempts, it doesn't help your finishing ability btw he shot slightly more per game then curry....A great shooter is a great shooter in any system

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close but it's still Reke

For the guy that said other player were close to 20 5 5
1. Grant Hill was a super start player before the injury he was ROY
Steve Francis was a beast and he was ROY
2. they were close and they were all start players
3. Lebron was 18 and Reke is young too, he isn't Lebron no one is he (Lebron) is the best
player in the NBA IMO and most people.
4. MJ and the big O
5. The kid was the best Rookie this year Curry made a push and was the best in the second half
but not by enough to be ROY.

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Doesn't matter if you miss

Doesn't matter if you miss by an inch or a mile... 20-5-5 is 20-5-5
19.9 - 4.9 - 4.9 won't put you on the list with Jordan, James, Robertson.

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one game does not affect of

one game does not affect of an award that represents a whole season. Tyreke had a better season as a whole so this is why he deserves it.

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