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Dear David Stern and others it may concern,

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What?

What?

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No?

I hate that kids have to go to college to got the NBA in the first place. Some cant afford it, some arent smart enough, but should that take away from them as players? no. let them come straight from HS

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I agree with what someone

I agree with what someone else said before, in that a lot of kids just won't go to college at all. They may end up going to Europe at 18 years of age, and that might not be good for them (ask Jeremy Tyler).

P.S. Why don't you actually send this to Stern, and see if you get a reply. I doubt he comes on here.

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America and Freedom

This is America, we are a FREE country. When kids graduate from high school they can go to college, get a job with whomever, or join the military. There is no organization or government agency that tells young people what they can or cannot do. Why should basketball be any different? It's nothing more than an occupation.

Simply eliminate the stupid rule that makes kids wait one year. Expanding it to 3 years would be far worse and would probably fail a legal test.

There would be some advantages to eliminating the one year rule.

1. Most kids would still go to college to play ball.
2. Guys with elite talent, who have zero interest in college, can go directly to the NBA.
3. Number 2 above would eliminate several "one and done players" who don't want to attend college. They currently make a mockery of the so called "student athlete" label.

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How did the original poster

How did the original poster actually get -11? I think it'll be great if kids would go to college for 2-3 years, At first all those high school star players will be really upset and angry, but really, in a couple of years they will start to take it as something obvious and there will be no fuss about it.
It'll be surely a huge gift for scouts, no super mega high potential raw athlete busts. That would be good

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How would it fail a legal

How would it fail a legal test?? There are thousands of organizations that require a college degree before you can even apply for a job there. Yall need to get real about that. The NFL has this freaking rule and nobody &$#%#&@! about it. Kids cant just go to college and work anywhere. If you think thats true, you need to wake up and take a bite reality. Right now, I want you to apply for a job at Google and see if you dont get shot down. Try to get a job Coaching at the D1 level without a degree and watch them laugh at you..

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First off, both ideas are

First off, both ideas are dumb and unrealistic. Both would hurt the NBA far more than it would help it.

Setting a three year age limit is ridiculous. If the NBA player's union actually has beef over "older players being forced to retire", they need a reality check. The best basketball players in the world get NBA contracts, which are extremely lucrative, meaning you don't have right to them. When you physically decline with age, NBA teams will sooner or later have no use for you, and will move on to younger more talented players. This is completely inevitable. You will age.

So save your money and be ready to stop getting signed to new NBA contracts sometime in your mid 30's.

Also, whether you were just saying it or this "forced to retire" bull&$#%#&@! is actually being used, no one is being forced to retire. NBA GMs and owners have the say on who they sign, not the NBA or the player's union, and they are simply declining to re-sign old decrepit players who can't contribute anymore. Moreover, you still have the right to pursue employment with NBA teams or other leagues for as long as you want, or to get a clue and move on to being a coach or trainer or broadcaster/journalist. Or, god forbid, a normal job.

Young players are more talented and can be had for cheaper. Am I really supposed to feel sorry that this is affecting the NBA veterans who have earned $50 million+ over their careers, yet haven't put &$#%#&@!-all for a nest-egg, and thus try to cling to the NBA's golden teat? And is Donald Stern supposed to care? Screw them, if they want a lockout, they can have one.

Forcing young players to wait three years would probably lead a bunch more to follow the Jennings path to Euroleague contracts, and as others have said, things would balance out and "forced retirements" would continue as talent pool caught up. Attitudes wouldn't change among young players, the reality is most are jocks who aren't that smart, it's not their attitude they just aren't scholars. Things work themselves out, the one-year rule is good because it reduces number of idiots declaring out of HS who shouldn't, but at same time some top kids are ready out of HS and don't need college at all (Lebron, Kobe, Dwight, KG, Amare, etc), and many other HS guys have done just fine in the NBA after initial struggles. Is it really right to deny them 2 additional years of NBA salary and force them to go to school or ship overseas, for no good reason that isn't already served by one-year rule?

As for coaches, yes they get fired too often and for no reason. But paying them more will not change anything, and top players know they can't be benched too long because the team will lose.

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The8thDeadlySin on This Issue

The8thDeadlySin wrote, " There are thousands of organizations that require a college degree before you can even apply for a job there. Yall need to get real about that."

1. There is no college degree requirement for the NBA. In fact, most players don't have one.

2. As for Google, there's no law saying you can't apply for a job. I would bet a ton of money that if some ultra smart high school computer geek had the kind of skills the company needs, they would hire him on the spot.

3. The NFL and NBA are two vastly different organizations. In football, high school kids would literally be in imminent danger of serious bodily harm if they tried to play in the NFL.

4. There are rules that exist because they were never tested in the legal system. If some enterprising young high school graduate decided to file a lawsuit, he might win. The primary reason the NBA gets away with the rule is the amount of time and money a lawsuit would consume for the complainants.

More importantly The8thDeadlySin, why are you opposed to the idea of high school graduates applying for a job with the NBA? Why do you believe they must wait one year?

If you had a chance to get a multi million dollar contract starting this October, how would you feel if RTBT said 8thDeadlySin, you can't play this October, you have to wait one year?

Admittedly my suggestion will only impact a handful of young men, probably less than 5 or 6. Most guys will still accept basketball scholarships. The best part is the fact those 5 or 6 have zero interest in a college education, so why not let them start their careers and earn big money.

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I would like to see the one

I would like to see the one and done rule eliminated. Personally, NBA scouts are smart enough to tell a player to go to college rather than enter the NBA draft b/c they are not good enough, if they chose not to listen at least they were told. Europe is out there as well. What Dick Vitale said was the best plan get rid of the one and done rule and the players who chose to enter the nba draft out of high school, let them, and the ones that don't have to be in college for 3 years. There is nothing illegal about it, baseball does it. Also it is not illegal because you are not restricting an individual's freedom, nor is it unconstitutional. Unconstitutional would be if all future NBA players had to attend 1 year of college before entering the NBA, and Europe or other types of professional basketball would not be allowed, that is unconstitutional because it restricts a person's freedom. I have nothing against guys deciding to not go to college and play in europe and then enter the NBA because they have to earn a living. Though, even the players going to Europe I wonder how beneficial it is because to be professional in anything is a lot more than actually doing the job. With athletes your body has not even fully developed, nor has the brain so to me guys aren't even ready until they are 21. Would you believe that Tiger Woods went to college, and played golf in college it's not so bad to go to college the benefits of it outweigh the cons. A basketball player that is poor with getting a full division 1 scholarship doesn't have to worry about when the next time they'll have to eat, shelter, or clothing. Also. with all the underhanded stuff colleges do they can get jobs for there families so they don't have to worry about rushing to the pros right away.

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Thats a ridiculous idea and

Thats a ridiculous idea and the players union will never go for it. 3 years is a joke no way they approve of that. BTW Derrick Fisher has been playing in the league since 96 he's been in more playoff games than Kobe even and he's 4 yrs older at a demanding position. The league already fixed the rookie contract problem they had with guys like Big Dog making ludicrious amts of money as rookies. Something the NFL hasn't addressed and now u want players to wait 3 years to get in the NBA and it takes another 5 to become an unrestricted free agent. 8 years the elite players will be waiting to get paid a fair contract meanwhile their college and pro teams will be making how much off of them. Look at how many guys straight out of h.s. and 1 and done guys in the league dominate. Kobe, Lebron, Mello, Wade, Dwight Howard, Derrick Rose, Durant why wait to have the best talent on pro teams. I actually like the 1 year rule it helps teams evaluate guys on a higher level in college or overseas becaz against high school players most can look like superstars easily. A lot less Kwame Browns now than before being drafted so high. The NBA owners are already trying to get more revenue out of the players with this new proposed deal. Here's some more guys that played at least 2 or 3 years in college and still have huge impact on their team Camby, Juwan Howard, Andre Miller, Jason Kidd, McDyess, Pierce, Ray Allen and many more still going strong.

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NYK2010 on The Rule

NYK2010, I always said the one year rule is great for the NBA but bad for college basketball. When the term "student athlete" already has serious credibility problems, the "One and Done" rule brings it to a new low.

As I said above, allow those 4 or 5 elite high school players, who have zero interest in college, to apply for a job with the NBA. Who cares if they don't make it? Nobody's forcing them to forgo a college education.

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BTW still need owners for

BTW still need owners for the Sim league 5 teams open, Bucks, Heat, Magic, Mavs, Nets.
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