The Best Mock Out Right Now ( With Comments) By Knicksboy!
Check out my mock and please check out some of the comments. Any pick you disagree with, I will explain in detail why I put the player there. Thanks!
While it is still too early to be making mocks IMO, the only part that irks me is you having the Hornets taking Xavier Henry over James Anderson. IMO, the team that takes Xaiver Henry over James Anderson will regret it, big time.
I cannot agree.
Henry was on a team with Collins, Morris and Aldrich- He had some opportunities to score but not as much as Anderson. To me, Anderson is a bit overrated by fans. He's a good shooter but a terrible ball handler ( which would mean he cannot create a shot) and he's not a good passer.
Henry isin't lightyears ahead of Anderson though...
Anderson needs a disciplined point guard who can create shots for him, and he'll be fine. To me Point guards create shots, shooting guards make shots. A shooting guard who isn't very good at creating shots isn't the end all, he just needs to make them. He may be overrated by us fans, but by the experts I think he is underrated and Henry is overrated. I don't think Henry is nba ready, his body is, but not his game.
What if you gave Henry a pass first PG?
I think Henry could be a good #2 option in the NBA.
Anderson- I see more of a #3 option
Just my opinion
I don't think Detroit will go with Monroe simply because of the fact that they already have guys like Jerebko, Villanueva and Daye that could potentially be Detroit power forward of the future. There's a good chance that Ben Wallace will retire after this season and a guy like Whiteside will really be considered with this pick as Detroit will lack a true interior presence and fills a need. He also has vast potential and could be a high risk high reward type player.
Swap the 7th and 8th picks meaning that I think Donatas will go to Philadaphia and Al-Farouq Aminu will go to the Clippers. I think that the 76ers will either go SG or PF/C. A guy like Henry or James Anderson could go here but bigs like Donatas, Monroe or Whiteside if he hasn't been picked yet could all go here. I think Clippers will go with a small foward since because that is their weakest position.
I like your thinking with Thornton as your J.R. Smith. Thornton is a guy that could either help your offence or really hurt it meaning that he can shoot you in or out of games so Thornton in the starting lineup wouldn't really be a good idea. I would think that the Hornets would go with a SF simply because of the fact that SF is their biggest need. Robinson would make a great alleyoop partner for Chris Paul but guys like Vesely, James or even Ebanks could all be considered with this pick.
Orton will not be a lottery pick. He hasn't proven himself. He will be a late first round early second round pick. I think Milwalkee could go with this teammate though Patrick Patterson but Ersan Ilyasova had me change my mind to Milwakee draft a wing player. I think they'll go SF or best wing available so guys like Anderson, Henry if not taken yet, Robinson, James or Vesely could all go here. Don't sleep on Vesely at all. He could go as high as 10th pick.
I really do like your draft though. Solid job.
Let Orton come in and just let him start over Bogut or Mbah Moute? He didn't even play much, let alone start in college. Where's the logic there man? But I thought overall you did a solid job. I have a few things I disagree with but overall nice.
1. I think you've overrated Greg Monroe, although everyone seems to do it these days. He's just not athletic enough. He's got skills and will get drafted for them, but anyone that picks him at 6 will be sorely disappointed.
2. Minnesota does not need another power forward of any kind. Why bring Lawal who can grab "10-12 boards" (I find that hard to believe, but alright) off the bench when Love already does it better?
3. This isn't a huge thing, but did you think about Stephenson's personal problems when you had Washington draft him? I know it's the 2nd round but I can't see them looking to add a player with his problems after everything that's happened AND with Blatche still on the roster. I'd say they'd go for White instead. Similar type of skill set but with less of an attitude.
4. Soloman Alabi will NOT fall to 39. It just won't happen. 7-1 centres with his physical tools never fall out of the 1st and a guy that atleast has skills, like him, has a good chance of going in that 15-25 range.
Overall, not bad, but it's still kind of early to be doing mocks. For example, I've heard Motiejunas might not be coming out because he doesn't have a buyout for next season. And if he doesn't, how much does that change your mock?
Whoa who said Orton would start over Moute and Bogut?
Monroe range is 5-10
I gave them Lawal because there losing Darko.
I didn't think about that....Still Lance could go to Washington
Alabi could fall to round 2 because alot of scouts/ GM's still question his overall talent
Greg Monroe would be playing center there. Rip or Prince will likely be traded this off season
Stuckey - Rip - Prince - Jerebko - Monroe
Bynum (but probably wont return) - Gordon - Daye - Charlie V - Maxiell
GSW would prolly take Wes with the 5th pick, if Favors is there I bet he goes there and they use him as a center. But I can see Wes there
Philly needs a big bad, really bad
George that high?
Crawford wont go to GSW, why do they need him?
NYK needs a pure point in the 2nd
Philly will use the Brand- Dalembert- Young and Speithes (SPELLING) combo
George will rise...I will bank on it
Crawford to GSW because I can see someone giving Morrow a pretty penny here
I don't see too many pure points in round 2. NY could take Terrico White and use him as a point
You said about Orton that he has all the tools and you should put him on a team and let him start. Milwaukee already has Bogut and Mbah Moute, how is he gonna start at C or PF without him replacing one of them. Unless you think Mbah Moute goes to the 3 then, but he is a def. 4 man in my eyes.
Also how does Minny afford not to take Crawford with their 3rd pick, let alone their 4th. His stock is gonna rise anyway, so I think he goes with Minny's 3rd 1st round pick. They need a scorer and he's the best pure scorer in the draft.
If Orton was on a college team as a starter...he would have been a legit lotto pick.
In the NBA? I think having Orton as a 4 is good and it allows Milwaukee to have size
Jennings- Salmons- Moute- Orton- Bogut
with Ilusova, Delfino and a early 2nd rounder?
Ok your saying if he was on any other college team he would be a starter. Didn't understand that, my bad. But to start on Milwuakee is too much for him IMO. If he could start in the NBA he would have been playing better against college competition, even with his limited minutes. I think he would be a nice fit there as a role player as a rookie though.
Well...In terms of Minnesota
Evan Turner, Jan Vesely and Quincey Pondexter to me should be able to increase the scoring for Minny. Also Corey Brewer will be another year and move developed game wise.
Jordan Crawford will get pub and could move into round 1. For now? I have him at round 2.
And even if he isn't we got Reggie Williams.
NYK could take Kemba Walker or Sherron Collins
Philly is kicking Sammy out the door and Brand is meh.
You think Reggie Williams is reason enough to not take Wes Johnson?
Kemba Walker will not be entering this years draft.
Sherron Collins is not a real pass 1st PG....he's overrated as that in my mind.
Philly is not getting rid of Dalembert anytime soon and Brand will be another year away from surgery so I expect him to do well.
So you say that Henry has a low ceiling, yet you say he could be a future all-star? Contradicting much?
Daniel Orton in the lotto? No way. He has proved nothing. He has a nice frame, but has just average size at 6,9-6,10. There are also concerns about a possible torn acl that occured in HS.
Vesley will go higher than Paul George most likely.
Switch Nemanja Bjelica with Jordan Crawford.
Pretty solid overall.
I also said High floor. I think he will be good but he won't be a starter in a all star game but a reserve.
Orton can be a lottery pick. He came out for a reason. Also some people I talked to said he could go late lottery because he has skills and when they pull all his offensive and defensive plays together and he had the look of a lottery pick
I don't know how about Crawford....I don't know if he will be a 1st round pick.
Me one reason why Orton should be a lottery pick. When I watched him, nothing impressed me at all besides above average shot blocking. He looked completely lost out there and shows no offensive skills what so ever. Also, almost all mocks view him as a late first round pick.
Orton is a POTENTIAL lottery pick.
I believe he will eventually fall between 13-20. Don't you know players move up and down during the draft. Orton is a decent player and alot of scouts and college basketball people I talked to told me if Orton was on a team where he was a good player- Orton would have been a legit lotto pick.
Orton is not going in the lottery. He seriously should have stayed, to prove himself. If he would have stayed he would start and be able to finally show off his talent. George will not go that high. You need to seriously change your lottery, I don't agree with a number of picks. Most have already been mentioned. And no offense but I only saw your lottery, after so many dumb picks I got bored.
so list my dumb picks...
Why is Orton a lotto pick? hes does have talent hes pretty athletic, a good shotblocker, but he has almost no offensive game, and is 6''9. Hes no more than a 20-25 pick at best.
Most of them have already been mentioned. but here are most of them
Henry a little high. I think Philly is a perfect fit for him.
Johnson will go 5 to the Wiz, he makes sense for them. Why would the Wiz pick another PF, when they already 2 bigs they like(Mcgee and Blatche)
Aldrich will not go 9, too high for him.
Monroe should slip, i was not very impressed this year by him. I expected a lot more, but I didn't see it.
Orton will never go in the lottery, very unproven, I'm thinking late first round.
Why would the Clips pick Montie, they already have Griffin, and Kaman, montie would never fit. I see him more as a late lottery pick. Maybe the Hornets will take him.
And that is just the lottery.
The Wizards already have Josh Howard and Al Thornton. What they need is a PG but there's not too many of them so if they don't get 1st pick I think they should either get a PF or the best available
replace him at the 2.
And they need a point guard, just any upgrade so they wont be picky. and giving them a 2 isnt any better than a shoot first point guard. that doesnt make sense
sammyhas been on the trade block for the longest time and has 1 year left on his deal
"Monroe range is 5-10"
Maybe now, but when he bombs the athleticism tests he'll more then likely fall. I'll admit he's got skills, but he's a tweener where he can't guard Cs because he's not strong enough and he can't keep up with power forwards. Atleast that's my opinion, although out of curiosity what position do you see him playing long term?
"I gave them Lawal because there losing Darko."
No offence but this makes no sense. If Darko was leaving (and most reports say he's happy and both he and the team want him to come back) you can't replace a 7 foot centre with a 6-9 power forward and expect to improve.
"I didn't think about that....Still Lance could go to Washington"
I think it's something you should think about. The team doesn't need anymore distractions and it doesn't really need anymore ballhogs either, now that I think about it. They need someone that will just come in and play. That's not Stephenson.
"Alabi could fall to round 2 because alot of scouts/ GM's still question his overall talent"
They don't question it THAT much. Yes he's raw but he's got size and a decent feel for the game. That and he'll improve a teams defence basically just by being on the court. Funny how he ends up going to the Knicks though =]