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Draft early entrants.

Is it just me or has more players entered the draft early than in previous years. We still have plent to go before the deadline and it seems a lot of guys are making poor decisions. Guys like Wall, aminu, turner, whiteside, aldrich,cousins and other lottery to mid-first round locks do right in declaring early. But just today we had a guy from Lipscomb, Talor Battle, AJ Ogilvy(who's stock has fallen deeply since his freshmen campaign) declare for the draft. They join an already large amount of guys who have declared and will be lucky to be picked up in the second round. I know some "test the waters" but the next few weeks will be very interesting for basketball fans everywhere.

Of the early entrants that have declared who do you think has made the worst choice so far? Mine is AJ Ogilvy since this draft is jam packed with bigs and he has potential to raise his stock next year if Vandy goes deep in the tourney(especially with Jeff Taylor coming back).


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another one is

Another guy that has made a poor decision is Tommy mason-griffen of OU. Oklahoma was a train wreck this season and TM-G was a minor bust. He's also only like 5'10 which doesn't make matters better.

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Mason-Griffin is the biggest

Mason-Griffin is the biggest enigma. I think that his departure is related related to eligibility and personal problems with his coach. If it is, then he should just transfer to a different school (even if it's a smaller one), sit out a year, and get his act together. He actually had a very good season at Oklahoma, but he's nowhere near NBA ready. He doesn't have the explosiveness or length to compensate for his lack of height. He reminds me of Khalid El-Amin, who played at UConn for three years before a brief stint in the NBA. The worst part about it is that he's more like a poor man's Khalid El-Amin.

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it may be because of the

it may be because of the potential NBA lockout in 2011.

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Good point, but some of these guys shouldn't be leaving, potential lockout or not. Nothing wrong with testing the waters, but some of these early entrants take it too far. There are guys who declare for the draft every year with little or no credibility to their name. Anyone remember this guy?

http://www.contracostatimes.com/sports/ci_14226277

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I never heard of that guy

I never heard of that guy but his story sounds very similar to Leon Smith, another 7 footer, from Chicago. He got drafted though but wasnt mature enough. Had a messed up background as well. There are thousands of these stories. Kids who came from nothing and saw millions but werent ready for it. Wasted talent is a terrible thing.

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At least he's on the right

At least he's on the right track now. I doubt he'll play D-1 basketball, seeing as how he's already 24, but it's really good to know that he's at least playing basketball again.

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2009: 49 early entries who

2009: 49 early entries who stayed in. Fifty-five players who had declared as early entry candidates for the 2009 NBA Draft withdrew.
2008: 44
2007: 38
2006: 47

So far, if you were to take those who declared, those "expected to enter" by this site, and the 50-50 people, the list would be 75. Even if you build in another 15 random juniors who declare to get a workout or two with pro teams to go through the process, it is not an absurd number. Not all of those who declare will stay. There were 104 guys who put their name in last year, more than half pulled out. In 2008, 90 declared and once again half pulled out. At this point, it is more of a Chad Ford creation that there is a never before seen mass exodus. The Kentucky situation gives a false impression that what is going on is outside the norm. Actually, this is what happens every year. If the list gets up to 120 and there are 60 who stay, then there is something to the rumors.

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the barron on Ogilvy

Although I agree with you in that Ogilvy made a mistake, I don't like his move for a different reason. Even though he was listed as a first round draft choice on this website for two years, Ogilvy is not an NBA player and never will be. So even if he waits until next year, his only viable option will be Europe or a permanent seat at the end of the bench on an NBA team.

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If you think Ogilvy isn't an

If you think Ogilvy isn't an NBA player (completely debatable point) then why do you care if he begins a pro career now or in another year? The six figure salary he could be getting in Europe should wait for what reason? He isn't an American citizen so he won't count against the quotas teams have on U.S. players. Whether he makes it in the NBA or not, he is going to make a lot of money playing basketball. If your point is that he has never been and will be an NBA player, then what good reason is there for him to stay at Vanderbilt for another season?

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Bothteamsplayedhard. Check

Bothteamsplayedhard. Check the figures for 2000-2003. One of those years were nuts. I seem to remember about five players from community colleges even declaredd one year. That was funny as all get out. There were a bunch of juco declaring, too. Most of them, needlees to day, didn't get drafted. lol.

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Still to early to see how

Still to early to see how will stay in, I think it would be smart for some players to test because most of the guys we say should stay or like a year away. It they cant get a first round gurantee they can just come out next year.

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