Whos the better PF?
Prolly the greatest PF in our generation.
Malone was the best PF ever in my opinion. Duncan redefined the PF/C position. I still think of Tim as more of a center. If I had to choose between the two, I would take Duncan without hesitation.
Its Tim IMO. He's still going strong too. When your are as solid of a fundamental player as Tim is, you are gonna have a place in the league for a while. He is def. the best fundamental player to ever play the game and I don't think that is a stretch by any means.
This is a great question. I agree with DanEboy though. Duncan is closer to a center than a PF. He defends the middle like a center. He often guards the other teams center.
As far as which one is better though, it depends on what your criteria is. Malone was one of the best 5 players in the league for like 15 years. He scored over 2000 points in every season from 86 to the lockout shortened year, and he brought it, every day. He played hurt, hurt people, and played like a man. But, he never won the big one. Although Duncan has been great, he's never been as dominating as Malone was, but obviously the rings count for a lot.
Duncan's got the rings and he is a better player in my opinion anyway. Duncan is just so fundamentally sound and effective.
Offensively they are both terrors on the floor. Defensively, I would give a little advantage for Timmy because he's taller and a better shot blocker. But both are ver very good players who deserve their name to be discussed as best PF ever.
i go back and forth on this one all the time. Cant lose either way, but ill give a very small edge to duncan. But breaking down the individual area's:
overall one on one skills-duncan
running the court-malone(one of the all time best)
physical toughness and endurance-malone
Malone put the power in power forward. Duncan never had to face the Jordan led Bulls so Malone not having rings doesn't diminish his career. Jordan held Malone/Stockton, Ewing, Barkley, Reggie, Drexler, Hakeem, and others in check while he was playing.
they were showing a bunch of jazz games on nbatv last summer for stocktons induction into the hof, and i was just remembering how great malone was. He would be every bit as great today. Not only was he the strongest guy on the court. But he had great skills passing and shooting and finishing softly around the rim. ANd when he got out on the run, you better have life insurance if you wanted to take a charge.
Duncan, he's a vastly superior defender, and I feel 100% comfortable saying that. Duncan in one of the five greatest post defenders, up there with Russell, Olajuwan, Mutumbo, and anyone else you want to include. He's the perfect power forward. A legit low post scorer, with range, ball handling, passing, and Shane Battier level fundamental defense.
And Duncan had to deal with Kobe-Shaq, which is no easy team to contend with. And he consistantly brings the best out of all his teammates.
i have a question, does everyone agree that these two are the top 2 pf's in nba history? Or would you put KG, Barkley, Petit, Nowitzki or someone else ahead of one of them?
I agree. Malone, TD, KG, and Dirk all play/played a different style of PF though so I guess it comes down to what you like. I will include Sir Charles, Petit, McHale, Hayes, and my favorite, Dennis Rodman.
he is the greatest PF ever i mean he has the second highest points ever and that speaks for its self
"he is the greatest PF ever i mean he has the second highest points ever and that speaks for its self" ....so according to you only thing we judge on is points???
Stupid question, how many rings did Mail Fraud win? How about Duncan? Gervin and Dominique scored tons of points but never won a ring.
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I still say Duncan is a Center ever since Robinson retired and thats 7 years now.
Here's how I see it
overall one on one skills-Malone
running the court-malone
physical toughness and endurance-malone
You can't go wrong with either one, but I'd go with Duncan due to his ability to dominate the paint defensively. Malone was a great defender, but was more of a savy type defender. He wasn't a shot blocker or someone who could change shots.
Both are great. I mean Malone was one of the best conditioned athletes ever. He looked amazing near the end of his career and he was still very effective. Duncan has slowed down more so in his 30's than Malone but he already has the rings to show for. In the end this is too hard to pick. Now if you let me pick who would win a wrestling match well..... the mail man's got that.
One of the things that amazes me about Malone was his longevity...the guy didn't miss more then 2 games in a season until he was 40 years old, and he averaged at least 20 points a game every season until that year as well. That's something Duncan can not and will not do.
duncan never had pg that averaged 14 assists per game, he was clearly the leader and best player on his team and he played and guarded the most dominant c that played the game in his prime, shaq so you cannot say that malone play against better opponents, i know jordan was god back then but kobe,lebron,shaq,garnett,carter... , he played in era when these guys were in their prime and he won titles so its clearly that Timothy Duncan is the best PF ever
I would take Duncan not only does he have 4 rings but he is a 20 and 10 guy and I think that his defense was better than malones. Also malone was a product of stockton I believe he still would have been a good player without stockton but he became a great player with him. I lke them both though but I thin duncan is the greatest PF ever.
i have no problem with you guys choosing duncan and i gave him a slight advantage as well, but some of your comments are just off. "Mail Fraud", "he was a product of Stockton" did you guys even watch him play? As for the competition, both played against great teams. The only year Duncan got past KObe/Shaq in their prime was 2003, other then that they owned duncan, so not sure i would use him playing against them as an advantage in his favor. No need to tear one of the greatest players to ever play this game down to make your case for the other one.