I don't believe Butler will. Yea, he was a great talent but
- He will need 3-4 months of rehab THEN another 7-8 months
- He already lost his athleticism...
To me, I would not take Butler before 45...What about you?
As much as I love DaSean Butler, I would have a hard time deciding to draft a guy who has a minimum of a one year recovery ahead of him. And you never know if a guy will have a full recovery. But if he is completely healthy again, you could get a premium player with a relatively low draft choice. Of course the only problem is you would have to wait an extra year.
On the other hand, he's such a high character guy and clutch player, I would want him on my team. Therefore, if I were the Minnesota GM, where I believe they have three first round draft choices, I would probably use that third 1st round selection on Butler.
Yea I think a team would take him, in part due to his character as rtbt stated. I mean Minny just brought the Janitor back and all he really was for them was a character guy. He rarely plays. Mark Madsen found places in this league for a while, mainly due to his character.
If those type of players can find a place in the league, I'd like to think a real player like Butler could too. I go to PITT and I like this guy alot, thats how high of a character guy he is.
1st round is kinda nuts though for a guy who suffered that devastating of an injury in the tourney.
Whoa....a 1ST ROUND PICK on someone who's gonna need a year to come back?
No way. I would take him in the 2nd at best.
lets be honest no on cares about your charchter if u have one knee.... butler is a class act guy and a great player but to tear your ACL and be out for a year i just cant see a team taking him
Was one of you key points " he has already lost his athleticism?"
He wasnt an athlete to begin with. Watch the Spurs take him and make him a hell of a player. Knee injuries are so easy to come back from now days. Well, unless you are like 6'10 plus. Guards usually recover just fine. Look at Corey Brewer.. I know there are others but he is the first one I thought of. I would love to see him with the Spurs because they will have a shortage at the SF/SG position in a couple years. With guys like Mason, Temple, Haritson playing and Jefferson and Manu possibly being gone, they could let him heal and make him great.
If it were me, I had a playoff team, and a second round pick, I would take him. Seriously, can you ever have too many smart players that can do a little bit of everything and most importantly, stroke the ball like its his job?? No. Draft him no higher than 40 now. He was a top 25 guy before the injury so he has talent. He will be a steal now.
OH!, Bill Walker is another guy.
Hey guys, let me try it again. Minnesota has three first round draft choices.
They are in a terrific position to use one of them for the future. Believe me, the Timberwolves can use a great clutch player like DaSean Butler. And with so many draft choices in the first round, they can afford to wait one year for one of those three selections.
And if you're drafting at the end of the first round, it means you already have a good team. Since you aren't going to great a player so late in the process anyway, you might want to take a chance on waiting one year to get a guy who would have normally been a lottery selection. You can afford to do such because you already have an excellent team.
I can guarantee you, put me on record, that Minnesota will either not have all their current draft picks by draft night, or they will trade some picks/their picked players. No way they come out of this draft with 6 draftees.
Not to mention, Kahn likes his "assets" which mean he likes value. What kind of guy like that is going to draft a player that much higher than he is probably projected to go? Not Kahn.
Teams need to have 13 guys on their roster, meaning there's guys who sit on the bench and don't play. I'd rather have a guy like Butler on my bench wearing a suit every game, taking in 800k a year with the hope that he can come back a be a solid role player in the league by his second season, instead of paying some meat head like Herb Pope or some vet 1.2 mil to be a glorified cheerleader.
I think he may get drafted mid 2nd round and may stay around for a vet team that see his long term potential but with so many guys coming out this year, it will be hard for Butler to go first round.
I agree with 8th. The Spurs would be the type of team to take him, and then show that he can still play and make every other team feel sorry for not drafting him. They have done it way too many times it pains me every time.
why wouldnt he get drafted. With a late second round pick he will be an absolute steal for a team willing to be patient with him. He was projected to go 21st before the injury ill be fine with the Knicks taking him 42nd, nice value pick.
M Dymes, I agree with your comment above, Minnesota will almost certainly trade some of their draft choices. But something tells me they'll still wind up with more than one and DaDean Butler would make a good one for the future.
I think you guys are way off when talking about Butler going in the middle or end of the 2nd round. Once you get past selection number 23 or 24 in the first round, the level of talent still available isn't all that great. In light of that, allow me to repeat that a winning team, drafting late in the first round can afford to wait one year for a guy who would normally be a lottery choice.
rtbt, I agree that Minny could take him, but I doubt that they would with that 3rd or 4th pick. Maybe the 5th or 6th one, but this draft is very deep and there are a lot of very good players who are healthy and can produce at the next level. I'd love to have him, but I think with those first 4 picks they would be looking at players who are less of a risk. But again everything is a risk in the draft.
M DYMES, I agree, almost every selection after the first 3 or 4 is a gamble.
I happen to think that betting on a full recovery for DaSean Butler is a gamble I would take with a late first round selection. If he were healthy, Butler would definitely be a lottery pick. If I could pick up a lottery type player late in the first round with the caveat I would have to wait one year, I would go for that.
I don't think it is crazy for a team to go to Butler offer to take him in the second round provided he not sign this year and will rehab team facilities (like OKC did with DeVon Hardin) and then barring a remarkable summer league where there is no doubt about his abilities to help the team will spend the next season (2011-12) in Europe working to get his game back.
value, value value thts all yall keep saying.... but how is it value if he cant play anymore, i mean i aint hatin but over a yr off of basketball transitioning from college to nba is a HUGE!!! DIFFERENCE btwn tearing ur acl when ur returning to college cause the competition is still the same, but going from college to nba while not touching a rock man i dont noo