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darkman97
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Success by Association???

Just wondering if you can evaluate the impact of a draft choice by the system he came from? I think there is something to it. I started thinking this after noticing how Westbrook, Collison, Holiday, Farmer and Afflalo have all played well in the NBA. I was high on Collison and Farmer coming out of UCLA but not so much on Holiday and was knocking my head against the wall when OKC picked Westbrook so high after only averaging 12.7 his last year of college. Holiday was only at 8.5 points per his only year also, Collison at 14.4 and Farmer at 13.5. My question is about Malcom Lee, he is at 12.1 and expected to enter this year draft. NBADraft.net has him as the 59th pick in this years draft. By looking at the pedigree that came out of the same system and how he compares to those players can we be safe to assume that he will be a much better player than #59? Give me your thoughts you can also add examples to support this or diqualify it.


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That is a very interesting

That is a very interesting point, but the one thing that jumps out at me as to why Lee wouldn't be as highly regarded is that UCLA is significantly worse than they were when Collison, Farmer and Afflalo were there, and even the team Holiday was on last year. The Pac-10 is also down, so the competition he played against throughout the season doesn't have as many NBA prospects as it did in a few years ago when OJ Mayo, Jordan Hill, Budinger, Taj Gibson, Jon Brockman. I think he is better than #59, but 2010 UCLA is no 2007 or 2008 UCLA.

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i appreciate you pointing

i appreciate you pointing out how bens guys play above their expected level in the nba because the ucla system prepares them. Dont forget love and mbah a moute over achieving many expectations as well.

But as for lee, he is not much of a first round type. IM still hoping he comes back. He defends well. The team played a lot better when he took over pg and they moved jerime andersen to the bench, so he can play either gaurd spot. His jumper has a nice nba type release that he can get off the dribble or fading in traffic, but it is inconsistent as all heck. If he does enter, i would defenitely take him ealry in the second based on potential alone.

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That's a great point JoeWolf

The PAC-10 is not the same PAC-10 as a few years ago. So there is a difference in the competition Lee is playing against and also the players he is playing with also. Should his stats be higher that what he is getting now because of this? I was mainly discussing the gaurds, llperz22, but I would agree that M&M is playing better than expected and being in Minnesota I get to see Love on a regular basis also. I remember back when Arizona was pushing out the NBA gaurds year after year.

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That's a great point JoeWolf

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darkman97
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That's a great point JoeWolf

TP. computer froze clicked submit to many times sorry

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