Would you take Singler over Ebanks?
Just a few moments ago someone was trying to convince me that Singler shouldn't go ahead of Ebanks in this year's NBA Draft, as if it's against the law of physics. I understand the drooping tenure one tend to take after being exposed to Ebanks's athleticism, which is very smoove with a dab of length. I understand that. Still, Ebanks hasn't shown me the physical nature it'll take going-up against players that care-less about rubbing lotion on their legs after a shower.
Do you understand what Lebron James will do to Devin Ebanks if he was to match-up against him?
It won't be a pretty sight.
Devin Ebanks reminds me of Andrei Kirilenko (just a bit), often playing at the same pace but has the potential to abuse passing lanes. During Ebanks's freshman year, he averaged 10.5 ppg and 7.8 rpg, which is cool if you ask me. He basically improved both of those areas by the end of the season, where getting booted by the all-White-guys club -- notably Scheyer and Singler.
I must confirm, even being African-American and automatically inheriting athleticism, one can only defer to the notion that Caucasians are more ready coming out, assuming they're legit in prospect-terms. Singler for instance, a player that dives into cameras and struts around with a chip on his shoulder. You have to love it. He stands 6'9'', great feel, shoots the basketball with recognition and his stigma is waiting to be disturbed -- he's white -- implying that he can't jump (who cares?).
I guess I'm so down-to-earth because rooting for a SF that can't stay out the Doctor's office can humble you (shouts out to Luol Deng). Although this profiling is huge throughout America and carries itself through many seams, for a logic NBA-mind will tell you, 'if Renardo Sidney was to declare in this year's NBA draft, he'll get drafted, even with his baggage.' Same goes for Lance Stephenson, possibly getting drafted in the first-round and can't shoot the ball if his life depended on it. Whereas Jon Scheyer will bored you to death, watching him dribble and bounce the ball through angles without a chance of defying gravity.
So-called Scouts -- fans -- must do a better job at prevention in terms of over-analyzing. Save your credibility.
Top 5 picks in 2010
1. Evan Turner (Really, Turner should be the overall pick.)
2. Greg Monroe
3. Demarcus Cousins
4. Cole Aldrich
5. Donatas Motiejunas
Just kidding, more like this:
1. John Wall
2. Derrick Favors
3. Wesley Johnson (I haven't seen him put the ball on the deck... one time!)
4. Hassan Whiteside
5. Xavier Henry
Ebanks, by no means is he one of those guys below John Wall, rather on a lower tier level.
1. Gordon Hayward
2. Patrick Patterson (have you seen his improvement from last year to this year? He's shooting the three-ball!)
3. Ekpe Udoh
4. Kyle Singler
5. Luke Babbitt
Just kidding again, more like this:
1. Devin Ebanks
2. Eric Bledsoe
3. Avery Bradley (what position does he play?)
4. Daniel Orton
5. Stanley Robinson
Stickies: If you're White, go to Duke and Win a Championship, more often than not you'll have rapport with the after-effects.
Appreciate the feedback.
So the guy that wrote this article is saying that if Ebanks was guarding LeBron, it wasn't going to be a pretty sight, but I don't think that Singler would do any better then him. And he doesn't even have Evan Turner in his top 5 picks.
No. I'm contrasting.
It would be so fun watching Singler guard Lebron....like in the way watching a train wreck is fun...
I feel this is a team needs situation when it comes to these two players. They are so different it would come down to if your team needed a defender at 3 with the potential to develop into a more balanced player or someone would can shoot off screens and provide instant offense. I like the AK47 comparison for Ebanks, but although he has a nice jumper (form wise) he needs to add consistancy and range.
That being said, I think Kyle Singler could average 13-14 points as a rookie, and Ebanks could give you 5 rbs 1 blk and 1 stl...its just a matter of what your team needs.
Exactly. My point is simple: Why is it such a big deal when Singler get drafted ahead of such raw talent in Ebanks?
I agree, Joe Wolf.
I agree with you, man, personally I like Ebanks, but guys who need to develop I think it would be a good choice if a team like Memphis at #14 or #22 was looking at a small forward and took Singler over Ebanks because they have a guy like Carroll who already fills the role Ebanks would, or a team like Houston, who has Ariza, could be a nice fit for Singler. He would be able to contribute off the bench right away and provide instant offense.
Would you rather have Mbah Moute, or Adam Morrison? im taking Moute.
but Morrison has a ring,lol
No fair, Morrison should be collecting disability.
I think if you want to groom a lockdown perimeter defender who won't be more than a 4th option offensively (I think he'll score ONLY off of the occassional slash to the rim, in transition, and off of offensive boards in the NBA) you want Ebanks.
If you want a guy who can make open shots spotting up or off screens, you take Singler.
It's a matter of whether you want offense or defense.
Morrison give players like Singler this conspicuous stigma. However, I'm not confiding on Ebanks because most players with that length and can't shoot the three-ball and are finesse -- Loul Deng, AK-47 -- just don't pan out. Whereas the accusation 'you're white', those rules don't necessarily apply, rather your skill-set does. Color doesn't matter (completely naive).
Singler is quite a bit different than Morrison from an offensive standpoint. Morrison was the main focus of his offense and would often back down shorter guards in the post and shoot fadeaways off the block as well as a barrage of leaners and spot up 3's, he did shoot off screens but not nearly as well as Singler. Kyle Singler is not, nor is he expected to be a #1 option in the league like Morrison was, but I think if he reached his potential he could be a solid #2 option. Singler primarily gets his shots off ball movement, but he is big enough to crash the boards and get shots in the lane although that isn't his forte. They are two completely different players, but the whole 6'8'' white guy shooter thing will continue to draw comparisons to Morrison, but as much as I hate to do the white to white comparison that is the root of why he is compared to Morrison, he reminds me of a poor man's Chris Mullin.
The thing is i think Singler would have put up similar numbers if he was the focus of the offense, and in a weak conference, but lacks the athletic skills to be good nba scorers, i do think hes better than Morrison though.
Ebanks = Shawn Marion
Singler = Mike Dunleavy Jr.
Who do you want??
I can see that comparison, but Marion has great improvisational moves and better feel.
Ebanks: Trevor Ariza
Kyle Singler: Mike Dunleavy Jr.
Question is Singler better than Chase? To me that is key. Chase Budinger and JJ Redick have made it easier to pick white guys for high profiled school again because it would appear after Joe Alexander, Gm's were nervous except for Indiana but that is another story. I have not watch Singler's game to say if he will come in ready to play but considering Duke won, that should help him get drafted well dispite any concerns about what he can do as a player. I would personaly pick Ebanks only because I think he will be a better NBA player than college player and also I kind of know what kind of players Huggins tend to produce. Ebanks has the raw skill that a year or skill refinement should make him a starting 3 that can put up points and guard players which is not a bad thing to have.
Singler has no potential. Everyone knows exactly what their getting.
I'd rather have Wall
Kyle Singler better go pro while he has the chance. How can you possibly think he will be anything special? There is so much talent in this draft, I just hope the Lakers stay away from Adam Morrison 2.0. I wouldn't even want him with our 2nd rounders.
The reason Ebanks is such an intriguing prospect in my eyes is that his abilities defensively will pretty much assure that he will get on the floor. He is not polished offensively, and the shot needs work. After the top few picks, there are no locks. The top thins out considerably if Monroe and Davis stay in school, but unlike a lot of the projects Ebanks has the ability to endeer himself to coaches because of what he does on the defensive end. I put him and Vesely in the same category. The problem for Singler is that he is a niche prospect. He does not have the ability to be the kind of elite scoring SF that a team would look for from that position, and he won't be able to guard the opposing small forward who does have those abilities. This means if he goes to a team with any sort of chance for competing, he is a bench player.