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Tournament Hype creates busts

Reading some of the articles on various sites about who's stock is rising and falling from the tournament got me thinking about tournament hype and how it creates draft pick busts i.e. (Tyrus Thomas athlete but not much of a ball player) My question is who's stock rose and made them a high pick due to tournament success alone and when they got to the league the hype didn't transfer. Can be any year any position.

Mateen Cleaves - Was slow with average handle before tournament, was slow with average handle after tournament. Winning Chamipionship got him drafted 1st round.


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If Sean May wouldn't have

If Sean May wouldn't have won a Ntnl Championship with UNC I think he would have been a 20-35 pick

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I think Morrison would have gone high anyway. Many thought he would be kinda like Bird. Man dont they look wrong now. Wonder what his future will look like?
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I like the Joe alexander

I like the Joe alexander one...He lit it up in the tournament, he had a solid year at West Virginia, but nobody saw him going 6th.

I have to disagree with Shaun May...he was a beast for UNC that entire year and would've been a high pick either way. Same with JJ Redick, actually I think his stock might have been hurt during the tournament cuz he got exposed by LSU's athletic defenders.

How bout Patrick Obryant from Bradley? I dont remember his stock existing befor the NCAA tourney that year...he tore up the tourney and got into the lottery

I also think Mike Conley may have been hyped up a bit too much by the NCAA tournament...he's a guy who was excellent in the tournament, decent in the regular season, but got drafted in the top 5...he hasnt lived up to that high of a pick in my opinion

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I like the Joe alexander

I like the Joe alexander one...He lit it up in the tournament, he had a solid year at West Virginia, but nobody saw him going 6th.

I have to disagree with Shaun May...he was a beast for UNC that entire year and would've been a high pick either way. Same with JJ Redick, actually I think his stock might have been hurt during the tournament cuz he got exposed by LSU's athletic defenders.

How bout Patrick Obryant from Bradley? I dont remember his stock existing befor the NCAA tourney that year...he tore up the tourney and got into the lottery

I also think Mike Conley may have been hyped up a bit too much by the NCAA tournament...he's a guy who was excellent in the tournament, decent in the regular season, but got drafted in the top 5...he hasnt lived up to that high of a pick in my opinion

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Conley

Conley is solid but not for a guy picked 4th. he benefited for odean for sure and that great season. Those 2 just havnt cut it have they?
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Conley

There's no disputing Conley benefitted from the talent on his team and their deep run in the tournament; but he benefitted more so from what was widely considered a weak PG draft. Experts, and I'm sure even the Memphis top brass, knew they were reaching for Conley...but ultimately they were desperate for a PG.

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thank you

I've been saying this for years.....its a product of NBA teams being lazy and not watching players until their last possible chance and then they see players at their best when they are making deep runs....

I have about 400 examples.....like all of '05 UNC.....all were reaches and the only one who isn't a MAJOR bust is Felton....

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I thought Mike Conley was

I thought Mike Conley was worthy of a top 5 pick at the time. It's kind of weird that he'd not an above average PG to me at least. In college he was quick, a good decision maker and playmer, a hard working defender, and a very solid athlete with some decent physical ability. I liked him. He did break out alot more in the toruny though than the regular season.

I think Corey Brewer was picked too high because of his tourny performance. He's better now than he was at 1st in the NBA, but I still think 6th pick for Corey Brewer was too high.

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any offers???

I bet I can go back to 1987 or so and find multiple players like this in every draft....

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As a Twolves fan, I can

As a Twolves fan, I can agree with that one. At the time I was pretty pumped to get Brewer, but looking at it, he shouldnt have been a lottery pick. He was a good defender in college, and scored alot off his defense and the other scorers on Florida's squad. Unfortunately that draft was pretty weak after Oden and Durant. Looking back on it I wish we wouldv'e taken Thaddeus Young, but Twolves fans can go back to just about every draft since taking Ndudi Ebi instead of Josh Howard and see multiple big time talents that we missed. It happens to every team, but man has it really killed to T pups.

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the pups

they did score HUGE once on Garnett....its sad though when you're reminiscing on 15 years ago.....

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Joey Graham is another

Joey Graham is another terrible, terrible example of the toruny buzz biting teams. The only thing he's really good at in the NBA is free throw shooting. He's not more than mediocre on D, he can't dribble, and generally has a very hard time scoring in NBA games.

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1987

2. Suns- Armon Gilliam (UNLV)
4. Clippers- Reggie Williams (Georgetown)

the should both shoot themselves for not takin Scottie

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1988

1. Clippers- Danny Manning (Kansas)
12. Harvey Grant (Oklahoma)

Note- I could pretty much call everyone besides Rod Strickland and Mitch Richmond a bust in this draft....probably the worst draft ever....

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the biggest one by far

We don't have to go the 80's to remember how much Patrick O'bryants stock rose after Bradley beat some teams in the big dance. He looked ok and was taken in the lottery but he has done next to nothing in the league.

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2004

2. Bobcats- Emeka Okafor (UCONN)
16. Rockets- Kirk Snyder (Nevada)

does everyone remember when it was a big dispute over who would be the first pick, Okafor or Dwight???? seems quite silly now....

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