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Look at college

Look at college football...

Tell Tim Tebow he's not athletic
Tell Myron Rolle he's not smart

Professional and college athletes are not your typical athletes. They are well above par and therefore, not average whether white or black. If you were to compare black people as a whole to white people as a whole (looking at all nations) I think you will begin to see intelligence and athleticism even out. We are so caught up in the abilities of whites and blacks in America that we fail to realize things are not the same in other countries. In America, some black people will tend to be more athletic in part due to the genes of their fathers/mothers. They were forced to work with their hands a hell lot more than the average white man in America. Then the white men were fortunate to go off to college and further their education. It is mostly about what is inherited from our ancestors past rather than mere race.

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M DYMES

M DYMES, I thought that was an excellent post. Here's something else to think about. Millions of guys in Europe and the U.S. were slaughtered during two World Wars. The world lost huge numbers from the gene pool of their most athletic young men.

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Sterotypes in Sports-wiki In

Sterotypes in Sports-wiki

In Darwin's Athletes, John Hoberman writes that the prominence of African-American athletes encourages a de-emphasis on academic achievement in black communities.

Several other authors have said that sports coverage that highlights "natural black athleticism" has the effect of suggesting white superiority in other areas, such as intelligence.

Some contemporary sports commentators have questioned whether black people are intelligent enough to hold "strategic" positions or coach games such as football.

In another example, a study of the portrayal of race, ethnicity and nationality in televised sporting events by journalist Derrick Jackson in 1989 showed that black people were more likely than white people to be described in demeaning intellectual terms.

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MetatronDaDon on Stereotypes

MetatronDaDon, that was an excellent post. I always felt the overwhelming success of male black athletes in basketball and football was actually a negative in terms of academic focus in the black community. Why? Because huge numbers of black male teenagers visualize themselves as professional athletes and only less than 1% ever make it that far.

Black female athletes have dramatically higher graduation rates because they don't have that illusion of some day playing in the NFL or NBA. They know early on they must take school seriously. By the way, white women perform better than white males academically, so there are other factors at play with this issue.

MetatronDaDon, the real key is what I've been saying repeatedly, stereotypes, even positive ones, can be harmful. If you claim blacks as a group are better athletes than whites, then someone else can use the same exact logic to say that whites, who dominate the academic world, are therefore smarter than blacks. Do we want people doing that? I don't think so.

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@ Sheltwon I felt you were

@ Sheltwon

I felt you were giving 2 much credit to selective breeding, the oral histories of former slaves verify the vile practice did exist,

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Athletic achievement has long been a Catch-22 for blacks. When an athlete lost a running, it encouraged racist notions that blacks were an inferior race, too frail to handle the challenge and not smart enough to plan a race strategy. But winning only reinforced the equally pernicious stereotype that blacks were less evolved than whites or Asians. That is the fate that befell Jesse Owens after he shocked the 1936 Olympics, held in the capital of Hitler's Germany. His four gold medals were subtly devalued as a product of his "natural" athleticism.

The racist stereotype of the "animalistic black" is rooted in hundreds of years of colonialism, slavery, and racism.

While former slaves acknowledge that slave breeding did exist, Native Africans are athletic too which suggests that

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Why do people think slavery made Black Americans evolve physically

" the top 10 fastest men include two Nigerians & a Namibian. The two fastest men in the world are Jamaican and Jamaicans are predominately of Ghanaian decent. All of the 10 are black This is not due to slavery as why are there 3 Native Africans

The only reason West African and Central Africans dont dominate in sport if due to lesser exposure compared to black people born in the western world not because the ones in the western world are of descendants of slaves

Now heres the lie about Black Americans have adapted in evolution through being selected by their masters
Evolution is an ongoing phase like growing up it happens as a species not a group. When a group within a species changes its only because of natural selection which can only happen when this group is in total isolation from the rest of the species and over 100,000 years they have to survive in a totally new way their traits were not use to and were not popular.
http://www.american.edu/ted/ice/images4/…
Example Pygmys who are one of the oldest ethnic groups have lived in isolation for over 100,000 years and only the small survived as they are built for getting food which they collect high in trees and in the deep forest where they reside today all their traits for survival are small. Any children who were normal height or tall would die before having children to pass on their trait but the small ones would dominate and have children making the small trait extremely common.

Now in the institution of slavery in North America there was no isolation from the rest of the species black people lived amongst white people, Native Americans.

Everybody was mating with everybody somewhere along the line. They werent isolated enough to make athleticism a recent evolution.

Black Americans got their physically dominance in cetain sports from Africa not slavery.

the fastes men on Earth are of West African, low lands decent the powerfall are of Central African dense fore decent
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080806155943AAP7sEv

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Metatron, I agree 100%

Metatron, I agree 100% percent with what you're saying, but you also must note that most people in the new world are decended from African slaves that survived the brutal trip across the Atlantic Ocean, (10-20% died), survived the exposure to new diseases in port factories (4.5% died), and lived through the breaking camps in the Carribean (33% of those on the Island died). Thats a ton of physical test for the ansestors of the people found in North and South America, and the slave labor only strengthened them. Now this is far from a strict justification, as any decendent of a laborer would have a better disposition to being athletic. Many of the children of Irish and Italian immigrants dominated sports in the 20's-50's, and some of the best athletes in the world are from Brazil. But all in all, race, country or any other factor besides your family and your work ethic have nothing to do with athleticism, or anything else about you for that matter.

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It's truly case by case, one

It's truly case by case, one of the best athletes I've ever played basketball with or against was a white guy who ended up running track at Oklahoma State and now sells insurance, the dude was 6'4'' and could get his elbow above the rim. I also ran track against a 5'8'' white guy who could flat footed dunk with two hands in Doc Martins. There are alot of fantastic athletes black and white that we never hear about on the main stage, I also used to play pick up ball with a black guy who was around 5'10'' and had an arsenal of dunks, I'm sure all of you guys have played with or know some amazing athletes, black, white, asian, and all races that no one will ever hear about. Numbers would indicate blacks are superior athletes( in American professional sports) , but I think all races are a lot closer than one would think. Of the 6 billion people on earth( assuming maybe 3 billion are males) we are making judgements based on the 350 NBA players and maybe 2 or 3,000 NFL players? That makes no sense to me, the elite American professional athletes are dominated by blacks, that is absolutley true, but I truly think all races' athleticism are a lot closer than a lot of Americans think. I mean we are making judgements based on around 4,000 males out of 3,000,000,000

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Joe Wolf on Race and Athletics

Joe, that was a fantastic post, wish I could have given you more than one point. Your comments made me think of something else, I'll explain below.

In the NBA, an elite athlete is often a guy who has a 38-40 inch vertical. A couple of years ago I read about a college basketball player with a 39 inch vertical who also happened to be All Conference in Track & Field because he could high jump 7 feet. His 39 inch vertical only translated into a 7 foot jump.

Well that was nice, but he wouldn't even come close to qualifying for the Olympics where you have to get over approximately 7 ft. 5 or so just to get into the competition. World class high jumpers leap approximately around 92 inches [7 feet 8 inches off the ground] in one of the most amazing feats in sports. That means they jump more than twice as high as the best leapers in the NBA, but of course they also go horizontal.

The elite high jumpers usually come from Russia and Sweden. I was wondering what would happen if some of those guys, who high jump 92-93 inches, grew up in NYC, instead of Russia or Sweden. I'm guessing they might have become basketball players.

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Joe, great post. I have

Joe, great post. I have played ball with so many guys that will never sniff an NBA hardwood, but athleticism is just off the charts. I believe that the reason guys are in the NBA is there mental toughness and work ethic as well as athleticism, but the first two is what gets them there because there are some really talented people who don't work hard and never make it.

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Joe, great post. I have

Joe, great post. I have played ball with so many guys that will never sniff an NBA hardwood, but athleticism is just off the charts. I believe that the reason guys are in the NBA is there mental toughness and work ethic as well as athleticism, but the first two is what gets them there because there are some really talented people who don't work hard and never make it.

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