John Wall or Evan Turner for the 1st pick in the 2010 NBA draft?
I would take Evan Turner as the 1st pick in the draft because he has a complete all-around game and he has shown he is determined to get better as his jump shot has gotten better from the previous year. John Wall hasn't been as consistent in his freshman year but because of his athleticism and potential he will be able to make a major impact but Turner would be my pick because he can step right in a be a contributor for any team.
I say if the nets get it they should take wall only because they have CDR, Courtney Lee, and terrence Williams at the 2 so drafting a shooting guard wouldn't be neccessary.
I am glad you brought this up because as a fan I would like to see the NBA award the 1st and 2nd picks in the draft to the teams with the worse records in both conferences, and then the rest of the lottery picks 3-12? are decided with the ping pong balls.
They should change the format. Many times teams that need the pick do not even pick in the top 5. That is bogus.
I know years ago there was fear of tanking...but you are not going to stop that if that is what teams do.
The Nets and Brooklyn having a guy like John Wall is good for basketball. I would love to see him go there with a billionaire owner coached by Jeff Van Gundy.
You need great teams in NY. Whether that is the Knicks or Nets. Yes I am a Bucks fans but I am also an NBA fan from the old school and from back in the day.
The Nets should get the #1 pick...and they should take John Wall. Can you imagine Lopez, Wall, Yi, and LeBron? Get outta here! That is a whip!
But there is no doubt about it...I WOULD TAKE TURNER over Wall a million times. Hell I would take Favors or Cousins over Wall.
I do not see what you all see in him....yet. He is not special. PG's had better be special. What is 'special' about him? His quickness? Speed? The NBA is full of guys like that at that position...
Turner is versatile and can play 4 positions. If you talk me into it, I would add Wesley Johnson before Wall and take him at #5. Hell, DWade, Deron Williams and Chris Paul went that low...and Wall is not even close to either one of them.
If you ask me game wise and maturity wise he should stay in school and learn to win and play basketball, and not just draft on his skill set.
Money wise if I was his adviser, agent, or even pop, I am not fool ...okay, come on out.
It depends on what team you are. If you're a team like Indiana, they would definitely choose John Wall because they desperately need a PG and a playmaker. If you're a team like Minnesota and have a million PGs on your team, then I would take Turner especially since Minnesota needs a SG.
...no starter is untouchable.
But actually the Nets are strongest at PG and C.
Wall and Turner are not too dissimilar. They're both primarily creators off the dribble with unproven outside shots (although Turner is a bit better.)
Frankly, I would not blame any GM that picks Turner over Wall, because 6-6 guys with his dribble drive don't come around too often. I get a good feeling about him and think he's a safer pick, while Wall is higher risk and higher reward.
A million PGs? We have 2 on the team right now and 1 more in Rubio. The T-Wolves don't have as many on the team as people make them out to have. And I can damn near guarantee you, one of those three (Flynn, Sessions, Rubio) will not be on the team next year.
it's very close. If need didnt come into play, then i would take wall. But if i already had a starting pg i felt like was my future pg, then i would take turner.
i dont like awarding teams for sucking. The worst record in the league is gauranteed a top 4 pick and has the best chance at the top pick. That sounds about right to me.
I see your point but until we know who has the 1st pick it is impossalbe to tell who to take.
as for who is the better player yeah it's probably turner.
Would this even be a forum if Kentucky was playing tomorrow night? Unless you really don't need a PG then it's def Wall.
...is that he sorta lost confidence in his outside shot towards the latter part of the season. It was almost cringeworthy at times. He needs A LOT of work on it.
turner. better shooter and more clutch in those final minutes of intense games.
I definitely like Turner better and think he's the best player in the draft, but I don't know if I could pass up on Wall. He's also a great player and when you consider how young he is... He's just oozing with potential and upside. He has a lot of work to do, but he has a very high ceiling.
The only way I pass up on Wall is if I already have a stud at point guard.
Damn, people just love to say Kahn took a million PGs because the media has made out to be funny, the Wolves suck, I live in MN, I can definitely testify to that, until we get better we're just going to have to take slack, and just enjoy it, they'll be much better soon, as long as they get Turner, or can trade for a #1 option like Granger.
wow... buckswith1stpickyo... you have quite possible said one of the dumbest things ive ever heard and i quote
"I do not see what you all see in him....yet. He is not special. PG's had better be special. What is 'special' about him? His quickness? Speed? The NBA is full of guys like that at that position..."
it has nothing to do with either of those... sure they help but the reason john wall will be special is his RIDICULOUS court vision and his ability to play AMAZINGLY in transition...
clearly you no absolutely nothing about what makes a pg a pg...
LLperez I must disagree with you...Sure you can have the mindset that having the number 1 pick is rewarding them...but goodness sakes man, the worst teams in the league lose 60 plus times a year, do they need more losses in the draft. Thats how franchises turn around most of the time. There arent alot of guys that can come in and change a team right away, and when there are, they generally go really high. As the worst team in the leauge, you want a really high pick. I personally do not like the system at all. its a system that keeps the good teams good and the bad teams bad generally. It doesnt seem like the worst team has gotten the top 2 pick in a long time...that just doesnt make sense to me...thats why they are the worst, they need better players...why punish them more than theyve already been punished during an 82 game season of losing by taking away a chance to draft with the 1st of 2nd pick? Why? Those teams need excitement for goodness sakes. I've been on both sides of the spectrum as a Twolves fan...I can say this, they dont have good luck in the lottery, and if they dont get a top 3 pick,,,theres gonna be alot of angry T wolf fans.
Turner is better right now but don't forget Wall is two years younger. Moreover, Wall has superstardom written all over him, which also counts to get the Nets franchise more valuable (remember the Cavs before LBJ?). The other thing is people say the Nets have a pg, but the real question is is Harris a better pick than Wall? I don't think so and between the two I would take Wall and trade Harris. It' ain't about the number but about the quality of your point guard, the most important position in a team.
It depends on team need. A team like Indiana, the Clippers or Philly could use him, but teams with a young franchise player like Chicago or Golden State would likely go after Turner.
I think Wall is the better prospect, but Turner is better as of now and I think Turner will be the Rookie of the Year.
I've said this before, but I have a feeling that Philly or Detroit is gonna get that #1 pick this year. Indiana has an outside chance, while Minny has no shot lol.
Iggy, if the Bulls were to somehow get the number 1 pick, I think they would still consider taking Wall. Rose has shown the ability to play the SG position and isn't a selfish player that needs the ball in his hands at all times. A backcourt of Wall and Rose would be as entertaining as it gets. Could you imagine a line up of Wall, Rose, Deng, Bosh/Boozer, and Noah? With Hinrich and Taj as great bench guys.The Bulls would still have money to go after someone like Lee or add to their bench. Far fetched but would be fun.
They wouldn't have the size in the backcourt to make a serious run though. A guard rotation with Rose, Wall, Flip Murray and Hinrich is way too small and gimmicky to make a playoff run.