IDK bout you guys but I don't remember MJ missing many of his clutch free throws. And I didn't agree with LBJ's decision to shoot that 3 at the end there. I mean your LeBron James, its damn near impossible to stop you from driving to the hole especially on a fastbreak like that at the end. Why pull up for the 3? I know he wanted to win but I would have rather taken my chance tying it up than shooting that 3 with 10 sec to go.
And I love KG talking his game. Making those 2 clutch free throws to back it up. He's one of my favs.
I totally agree with you M DYMES. LeBron missing free throws is vintage LeBron. I don't remember MJ, even Kobe missing a single free throw in a clutch situation. And LeBron is trying to pull a T-Mac and try to shoot the game winning 3 and be a hero. Why would he shoot a 3-pointer when some people call him "the best driver in NBA history?" If he had driven to the basket, the odds are he would have made the layup or at least would have drawn a foul. That is why when somebody says that LeBron is the best player in the NBA, I laugh.
The guy scored 20 points in the 4th and ended up with 42 points and almost a triple double. Sounds like the best to me.
He's the best Athlete in the NBA...the most physically imposing player in the NBA. I wouldnt say he's the best player though. He doesnt shoot well, he doesnt defend well,his basketball IQ is a bit in question, and he's not clutch, but he's a heck of a slasher, he is a physical freak and he passes well...people will rip my points I guarentee...when they do, I hope they be men about it and tell me why.
Its really a shame though. He has all the tools in the game to be the best ever. But when it comes down to crunch time, IMO his decision making needs to improve a bit, he needs to be more of an assassin like MJ/Kobe, and most importantly he needs to learn to make the simplest shot in the game, the free throw. Its called the charity stripe for a reason, gotta hit those.
in the last 16 seconds, he went to the line twice and missed a ft each time and missed 2 three's. He was 0-7 from 3 before he pulled up for the last one. It's too bad because he had a great game. Everybody misses last second shots, but multiple ft's and poor shot selection is a no no.
Well I think that he didn't make a that bad decision by pulling a 3. I mean, Cleveland will still finish 1st in the East and overall, and is it worth to play tiring overtime for a win that won't change their ranking?
In a playoff game he would have gone to basket for 2 but it wasn't an "important game".
Yes it is worth it to play an extra 5 minutes...that game may not mean anything in standings, but if your the Celtics and you lose a game taht you were up 22 and you have to play the Cavs again in the 2nd round, how confident are you going to be? They can at least salvage the win now, if they had lost, how devastating would that be...saying that game meant nothing for the reason behind that 3 is a cop out...if it didnt mean anything, why even play the 4th quarter? Why show any emotion during the game? Why claw back from over 20 down? Thats a weak and terrible excuse. It was a bad decision.
It happens, not sure why he took the three but he has been very successful in clutch situations and he was feeling it. Him missing free throws is nothing new, why would missing them in the clutch be new? I saw a stat a few days ago that showed the cavs winning percentage when lebron takes and makes different amounts of 3 pointers. The best winning percentage was when he took 2 or less threes and made 1 or no threes.
You can't say he isn't clutch though, if he didn't have 20 in the fourth he wouldln't have been in a situation to take a game winner.
He is still pretty clutch but to be the best you have to be the clutchest, if that's a word lol. For a big shot I will take Wade, Kobe, even Melo over him any day
Biggysmalls, you're maybe right but I don't think the Celtics gained a lot of confidence with this win. In a 7 games series they'll never beat the Cavs.
One of there wins Peirce did not play. Peirce plays it is 3 out of 4 for the Celtics. Not saying they win the title, but Celtics and the Magic are the teams the Cavs fear. Hate on
I don't put anything past the Celtics in the playoffs. Bunch of savvy vets always have a chance to make a run.
I'll tell you why LeBron took that three-pointer... It's because he wasn't confident that he could hit two free-throws if they fouled him. There's a lot less pressure taking a risky three-pointer to win the game than standing on the line and making two free-throws in LeBron's eyes.
LeBron is overall the best player in the NBA... But he does NOT have that clutch gene. LeBron has the hype, but I'd take a 26 year old Kobe Bryant over him any day of the week. He had the clutch gene (since he was 17-18 years old) and was an elite player at both ends... And he did it without dominating the ball all game.
I guess he has to be more like kobe for people to think he's clutch....shoot every shot EVERY shot in the clutch and make 25%...Kobe misses more than he makes but since he shoots those shots EVERY time he has a good ammount of makes that it will look nice.... Take a 26 yr old Kobe over LeBron. Yes the one who fed off Shaq his whole prime and didn't win 1 finals mvp with shaq nwxt to him...
I agree with Butler Bulldogs big time...I love the last line of your post as it is 100% true. It is the reason that Lebron and D Wade cant coexist, and the reason that it is nearly impossible to surround the proper talent around him. Lebron dominates the ball the entire game, and he should to a point, but without the ball he is pretty much nonexistent...he doesnt know what to do when the ball isnt in his hands.
Why are people taking my points!!! I said be a man and tell me why...i lose about 8 points and there are no explanations. I dont care if you disagree with my posts, actually I welcome it as it makes for a more entertaining internet session, but when my points are stolen and there is no explanation, I become angry. UGH!!
Also your theory of why he took a three is silly and childish...
He took it because hne didn't want to take fts? Come on...a three is the harder shot and he has enough confidence that he can sink a pair of fts...I'm POSITIVE that didn't even cross his mind....he wanted.to be the hero and finish the damn game off.....
Me and my team of detectives are doing the best that we can to locate the mysterious point stealer. We are beginning to think that he doesn't work alone. Until we find him, we'd advise you to try your hardest not to offend anyone in your posts, even though it seems pretty much impossible on this site.
I agree with everything Tezo (ButlerBulldogs) said, except for the "Kobe being clutch at 17-18" part.
Would you prefer Detective OJJ or Sherlock OJ Jones? I too believe that this point stealer may be part of a bigger organization with the agenda of stamping out all forms of individualism and thought provokingness...Rest assured, it didnt work in that movie with Christian Bale/book that I cant remember the name of,it didnt work in Hard Times a novel by Charles Dicken, and it certainly will not work on me. I will combat these foul basketball minds to the bitter end.
In the meantime,maybe I'll just lie low for a while and for now I'll try my hardest to remain neutral and only give out positive opinions of everybody...just like Bryant Gumbel and Charles Davis on NFL Network :)
Sherlock OJ Jones is fine. I'm currently on a stakeout outside of the residency of my main suspect (Jermaine Jackson), so I'll have to bid you adieu for now, as he should be leaving his house any minute for his 3:30 A.M. donut with chocolate frosting and rainbow sprinkles.
OMG guyz! I gotta go...
I think there is somebody outside my window...
I'm is freaking out!!!
@mikenike. Actually my theory makes plenty of sense. You must've been so amazed by Cleveland's comeback that you overlooked the fact that LeBron choked from the free-throw line during the final moments of the game. He missed two free-throws in the final 16 seconds of the game.
LeBron is the biggest, fastest, strongest and most athletic player we've probably ever seen. What in the world would make him shoot a risky three-pointer while his team is down two, when he could've EASILY drove to the basket and made the bucket and/or gotten fouled? Add in the fact that he hadn't made a damn three-pointer all game. He was 0-7 from three-point before taking that shot. If you don't think him taking that shot had anything to do with him not being confident enough to stand on the line and make two pressure free-throws, you're crazy.
He went 14-22 from the line... That's EIGHT missed free-throws.
@OrangeJuiceJones. Kobe did have the clutch gene at 17-18 years old. He did airball those shots, but think about it... He had the heart to take them and he didn't even HESITATE. Not even after he airballed the first one. LeBron would've passed that ball.
@mikenike. And do you really think another player would've won a Final's MVP while playing with a prime Shaq? Kobe was an elite player at both ends of the floor. He was an elite/high scoring two guard and was doing it WITHOUT dominating the basketball all game. Do you really think LeBron would've had as much success playing with a prime Shaq as Kobe did? LeBron's offensive game isn't anything close to Kobe's when you think about overall shooting, footwork, playing/moving without the basketball, posting up, etc. The only thing LeBron has on Kobe at age 26 is size, strength, athetlicism (even though I sware Kobe posterized more people jumping off of two feet), natural court vision and being a better teammate.
And back to the original argument... You said, "A three is a tougher shot." You prove my point. That's why he took it. If he misses a three, people won't look at him as bad as they would if he was to miss two free-throws because those are supposed to be "easier" shots. The fact free-throws are supposed to be "easier" shots is exactly why LeBron pulled up for that three-pointer.
I think he shot the 3 because he wanted to win the game for Cleveland. I don't think he thought and planned out in that frame of time that he'd shoot a 3 instead of going to the free throw line because he didn't want to miss free throws in a game that has little to no implications on his team. Who even knows that he would've gotten a foul call if he would've drove the lane? The refs could've very well swallowed their whistles and called nothing. That argument is hypothetical.
I do agree that Lebron isn't quite were he needs to be late games in the clutch, but he can take over games. I don't think it's fair to say he's not clutch AT ALL, because if you think about it, if he didn't dominate in the 4th like he did, they won't have been in the situation to tie/win the game.
Tezo...if I sounded like an asss I'm sorry..I respect you
BUT I still disagree with everything you are saying...and I will say why later when I am not typing on a phone
I'm not saying that he thought or planned it out. I'm saying that it's his mentality... His psyche.
a couple people mentioned that it was a meaningless game for, the cavs so the three was better, i dont think the players on the court in the heat of battle think that way. Especially two teams who were getting in each others face and looking like it was a playoff game. I hope to see those two play in the playoffs.
@mikenike. Lol it's all good!