Kentucys 5 projected 1st rounders?
I have been reading the projections/mock drafts and I see many people are rating all five of Kentucky stars as top 25 prospects. I can't see that, if you have that much first round talent you should stand as one of the most dominant college basketball teams ever. Do you think the analyst are over estimating these kids ability or are they really that talented and completely underachieved this yr?
LITTLE OF BOTH...
the latter, IMO.
I don't know about Orton, becuase played very seldomly. But Wall,Cousins, Bledsoe are all lottery talents in my eyes...I think Patterson is a mid first round pick...
they would have dominated WVU in a seven game series...Clearly a more talented team was kentucky...WVU fans dont hate me for this, but WVU's win was 70 % luck, 20 % kentuckys mentality and 10 percent WVU's talent
I'm fairly confident there will be four first round draft choices from the NBA farm team in Lexington, KY. John Wall will almost certainly go number one overall. I think Cousins is definitely a lottery pick. I'm somewhat confident that Patterson will go around the middle of the first round and Eric Bledsoe has a realistic shot somewhere between 16-25. I don't think Orton will be a first rounder any time soon.
Its not just the WVU game though...they were not one of the best college basketball teams i ever saw. They had tons of flaws. Those guys have talent but how much of their effectivenss could be contributed by John Wall...or is John wall overrated b/c he played with them. Paterson should be mid first...the jury is still out on Bledsoe he needs to prove himself...Orton is at least 2 yrs away
They are all first round talents because of their huge upside. Especially with Bledsoe and Orton. Orton does not play much, but scouts will see his potential and will draft him in the first round based on pure potential. Same with Bledsoe. However I expect Orton to return to Kentucky by May 8th which I believe is the cutoff date for college players to return to college and still be eligible to play in the next season. Bledsoe might do the same, but probably will not because he will most likely play the off guard position again with highly touted HS Senior Brandon Knight expected to come to Coach cal and the wildcats.
Potential is the dirty word that gets GM's fired....Potential was the reason behind the draft that gave us Kwame Brown, Chandler, Eddy Curry, and Diop. Screw that, Orton needs to prove something and so does Bledsoe...Bledsoe is much like Westbrook but even westbrook had some time to run the show at ucla when collison was hurt
I believe all 5 should be first rounders but 2 of them should come back
Wall, Cousins, Patterson are top 10 projected.
Bledsoe and Orton are 1st rounders but both need to come back for one more season
orton needs to return...he's gonna be the next jackie butler..who? exactly.
Duke had four or five guys go top 15 or whatever it was in '99 and they didn't win it all, losing to UConn in the championship. Brand, Langdon, Maggette, Avery...who am I missing if any?? Just because you have all sorts of talent doesn't guarantee you a championship, and yes if Orton and Bledsoe come out Kentucky will definately have five players drafted in the top 25. Orton has a ton of upside and if he comes out I highly doubt he falls out of the first round. Coming back for one more year would help his stock, he would probably be a lottery pick if he shows any offensive potential next year.
Exactly...Langdon was a nothing in the league...Avery was garbage in the league.
Why are people taking away points from guys who actually make sense. Mouchy 18...I would give u 200 points if I could.
What the hell has Orton done to show potential? I dont get it. Where is the potential. Is it because he is big? Is it because he can block some shots of guys that are 6'4? What on earth does he do that warrents a 1st round pick? All I've ever seen him do is dunk the ball and block shots...Thats not worth a 1st round pick to me...D3 bench players can do that too. Someone please tell me what potential he has. Cuz I'm just not in with the "he's big and fairly athletic, that means he's got potential" group.
Bledsoe is getting rediculously overrated because he played with Wall and Cousins...he averaged 11 ppg!!! he averaged more turnovers than assits...how is that possible, it cant be for the lack of options to pass the ball to, or the system...its because he's raw. Can he eventually be a good player? Sure he can...but right now I just dont know why he would be a top 15 pick. He's built and he's fast. Thats all I see in him. He cant shoot well, he doesnt pass well, he's a decent defender, but not game changing like. I just dont get it.
I understand if Bledsoe leaves cuz Cal is just gonna bring in more Super talented guards that will overshadow him anyway and his stock is high right now...but he's not ready for the NBA at all.
MikeNike...quit hating on WVU...they win ugly, thats not luck. Its basketball. If WVU won on luck, then Kentucky won the SEC tourney on luck against Mississippi St. The game is 40 minutes long, and West Virginia just played better. Good teams get other teams out of their comfort zones...so quit making excuses...thats for the weak.
If somebody wants to take away my points...grow a pair and tell me why. I'm sure Bledsoe and Orton are going to hack the site and take my points away so when they do...just tell me why u disagree please.
They could have 6 first round picks ... if you count Dodson being a first round pick in the NBDL draft.
I think Patterson is the bust of the bunch.....if a team wastes a pick on the POTENTIAL of Bledsoe or Orton in the 20's its not going to get them fired....drafting Patterson in the top 10 might very well....
Please explain why patterson of the bunh will be the bust? Please I need to hear this.
Orton won't be back if reports of him dropping out of school are true.
I'm gonna say that a) he is a bad tweener b) in terms of natural ability and athleticism he is the worst of the bunch c) rumors of his ability to shoot have been greatly exagerated d) the fact that he is going to be picked like 10 spots ahead of Bledsoe and Orton making him more bust-likely e) if Orton gets drafted in the second round it would be hard to call him a bust period since a lot of second round picks never make it in the first place...
would you like me to go on???
All five have the potential. The thing is Cousins, Wall and Patterson have NBA level while Orton and Bledsoe have more the potential than the level. Orton would be drafted based on his frame while Bledsoe would be a first rounder due to the weakness of point guard prospects in this draft. Both sould stay at UK and become top ten pick next year with a solid year as starter and leader of the team.
Can somebody explain to me Orton potential....Does he have a post game? is he an exceptional athlete? Can he shoot? Does he have imposing size? Is he a smart player? Has he proved himself?
I answer no to all of them, so where is the potential..he is a sloppy 6"10 fair athlete for his size but those are the only 2 you might question..think RANDOLPH MORRIS at best
Bledsoe has potential but at a position where GM's don't draft on potential. In the league, if you’re a Guard that can't play your gone. Guards get one shot to prove themselves unlike big men who people wait on , and get canned when they don't develop....Greg Oden is going to get half of Portland’s staff on unemployment lol
Must be the defense because I don't think he has any offensive skills in him.
Orton is the face of whats wrong with the 'system', and its not his fault.
He hasnt done a THING except be tall, but he will get drafted in the 1st rd.
Until teams stp drafting on a dream, players will never stop coming out before they r ready. Bledsoe i can see the potential in him, but Orton? Really?
Having NBA prospects doesn't necessarily guarantee a championship. Kentucky had a great season. Basketball still is a team sport, though. WV DOMINATED the second half because their coach is actually a good coach who made adjustments at halftime, and isn't terrified of running good offensive sets. It also helps to actually hit shots and put the ball in the hoop. I didn't see all the lucky breaks WV got. They played good basketball even if Kentucky had the most talented players.
I agree w/ midwestbbscout,
Orton cant b a bust if he comes out b/c he'll go late 1st at best, he's just gonna dupe the system for a couple mill then make a living overseas. He is ass, im sorry.
Patterson, if taken at 8, is a huge reach. He's a brute...he's like a thinner version of Big Baby...who is a good player, but top 10? Cmon... id LITERALLY take Bledsoe ahead of Patterson.
B-ball fan you don't get the point, this is not about Kentucky vs, WVU. Its about if Kentucy kids are as good as they are projected why didn't they completely dominate trough out the entire season? they were very good but not an all time great even if the won a championship. Other teams with projected first round picks that came up short produced a few duds in the league. Think that 99 duke team that lost to Uconn, think The Uconn team that lost to George Mason. Those teams had 4-5 projected 1st rounders put some of those kids turned out to be overrated
Did someone just compare Patterson to Glen Davis? Please tell me that I didn't just read that!
Glen Davis has developed a reliable midrange jumper since he came to the league but as a prospect he had no jumper so that arguement would be moot as to comparing him to Patterson.
I don't think Patterson will bust. This year at kentucky he did what he would do for an NBA team. He rebounded, scored in the flow of the offense, shot from about 15-20 feet at a good rate, and hit the offensive glass.
As for his shooting being overrated, it's not. His shot could become a nice weapon. He's not currently a 3 point marksman by any stretch but he does have a smooth, technically sound jumpshot and it's range and consistency will improve with repitition
I agree with everything Biggysmalls said. Literally EVERYTHING
Thankyou!!! I needed that cuz apparently my prediction that Bledsoe and Orton would hack to site and steal points came true.
Yeah I would like for you to go on...
Patterson is physically gifted and he is a very strong athlete, two things I assume you already know. He was pushed out of the post most this year because Cousins was down there. He is a not a tweener at all. He is definitely strong enough to play power forward in the NBA .
I think out of the five, he is the third most athletic. Have you watched any UK games this year? He runs the floor exceptionally well and throws down with ease.
As far as his shooting, he went through a shooting slump towards the end of year, all shooters go through these. He made only two three pointers in the last seven games. Before that point, he was shooting 42% from the 3 point line. He worked countless hours this past summer on bulking up and working on his jumper. You don't see too many players as strong as him with a nice 3 point touch that he has. He may not be able to pull up on anybody, but if he can spot up and step into his shot then it is money.
I think Patterson is a safe pick. Even in the top 10. You may not get that all-star player year in, year out, but you are going to get someone who can contribute right away and be a solid starting power forward for years to come.