Baylor VS Duke
Well I guess I will start up some in-game talk. Kyle Singler has drawn his 2nd foul, so how Duke plays with him sitting will be interesting.
Udoh is a mismatch. I think he'll be a good NBA player. He's too quick for Centers, too big for PF's. And he's a nice passer for the most part.
LaceDarius Dunn is taking too many shots right now. I like the guy, but he's kinda selfish right now.
Nolan Smith is playing good D and he made his jumper.
Josh Lomers and Zoubek is the battle of the stiffs.
Baylor up by 1 wih about 15 mins in the 1st half.
Can someone tell me why people think mason plumlee is so much better than miles? Miles seems more consistent in my eyes
LaceDarius Dunn is a legit NBA player offensively. He's making his shots now.
Quincy Acy is a bull. A freakishly athletic.....bull.
Nolan Smith playing well.
Andre Dawkins has a nice jump shot.
Zoubek now has 2 fouls, so it's up to Scheyer to lead the team, so I think Baylor has a huge advantage to take a significant lead.
Mason just has more NBA potential to people. He's very athletic and long but also he's not a finished product.
It's the upside. Mason does tons of things better. He's longer, much more athletic, his handle is better, he's a better shooter, more post moves, better passer.
The big difference between the two is the extra year at Duke. Miles used that year to bulk up from 220 to 240. That extra 20 lbs really helps him. Mason looks to be more like 215 rather than the 230 where he's listed.
I'm gonna ask why Smith isnt on NBA radars. Yeah he's an undersized two but he's got the arms to make up for it.
watching this game and past games it occurs to me that nolan smith is better then bledsoe
Thanks for the support quincey. Thats bold right there
i actual;ly didnt even read any other post..i was watching the game and it occurred to me so i went to this post and went straight to the bottom
Nolan Smith isn't talented offensively to be in the NBA right now, and he has below average ball-handling ability for his size. He also needs to be a PG to make it probably. I do agree that he's better than Bledsoe though no doubt.
Duke carving up the Baylor zone. They keep falling asleep.
When will Baylor take out Walton and never let him play again for the rest of the game? He's not a good defender in the zone (keeps getting lost, like he doesn't know his area), and he dribbles too much. He's destroying them right now.
^^^ i agree.. even though hes better i dont think hes ready for the nba now either. but i cant argue that he cant do as well as chalmers
The thing that's so unique about Smith's game is his beautiful midrange game
That Anthony Jones has some potential. I keep saying it. He has nice scoring potential for the future.
LaceDarius Dunn and Tweeyty Carter's alley-oop is surprising. Dunn is a deceptive athlete.
Oh. Well its nice to see someone who thinks that anyway lol
I have been watching Singler play. Is he playing himself out of the draft right now?
Yea he can be similar to Chalmers in the NBA. He's actually very similar to Chalmers right now. And he does have a nice mid-range game.
that would be true if scouts havent seen him play for years and already know what hes capable of
Singler should return for his Senior year. Safe to say.
I see your point for sure, but hes not helping his cause at all. Where do you see him being drafted?
Baylor is too athletic, Duke is getting into foul trouble because of it, and many turnovers are being caused by Baylor's great athleticism.
that baylor is 2 atheletic 4 duke they r killing them on tha give n go
i can see him going late first at best probably early second. even though he doesnt do anything great he does alot of things well which is why i compare him to luke walton and every good team would like to have a luke walton. i think hes more talented then luke though with the same high basketball iq
Acy's too strong on the inside right now. Duke needs to stick zoubek on him instead of Lance or one of the Plumlees
yeah in the past i got caught up in the " teams are to athletic for duke to beat them". duke finds ways to win though because they can get hot from out side, have high basketball iq's, and they go all out on defense. with that said i still hope they lose
its funny when you watch duke and other teams you see the other teams and all the highlights and you would think they are blowing them out and then you look at the score and see duke up or down by only a lil bit
If I am a team I would be very skeptical of Singler. As you can see today he is liability on defense against people with NBA caliber athleticism. When is is not shooing well he basically has no other offensive and defensive skills. I will add that he is very smart and high BB IQ. He some I would look at to the 50 spot or later iin the draft.
Yea I think Duke will get it together and I think they will win. I have a feeling. I want Baylor to represent the Big 12, but I think that Duke wins. They've done a good job of getting into the Baylor zone, they just keep getting the ball stripped. And they've shot the ball well. They're only down 3 despite Singler being ineffective. I have a feeling they'll win. Just a prediction.
It is all going to depend on Duke's players staying out of foul trouble, and at this rate it doesn't look good. Zoubek has 3 fouls, and Singler has 2 fouls if Baylor gets them in 2nd half foul trouble, Duke will be in trouble.
but he has played well against other athletic player sin the past. when you are thinking of drafting guys you have to look at there whole body of work and his is pretty good. there are many guys who dont have good one on one defense and thats ok because no one is gonna draft him with him being a good defender in mind. he will get drafted on what he can do and the team defense with compensate for his individual defense. hes not gonna come in and be asked to check the best guy on the court hes gonna come in and be asked to hit open shots make good passes and a lil rebounding off the bench. ala luke walton. fans overrate defense because truth be told most college players arent that good of defenders and most nba players are so ggod on offense that no one is gonna shut them down
something that i liek to think of when looking at a prospect that i got from either jerry west or the gm from the spurs "too many people look at what a prospect cant do but i like to look at what the prospect can do and work from there"
He is a freak athlete. Baylor is looking solid. Duke better hit some 3's or things might get out of hand.
Quincey, well said. Though, I think there are some guys in college ball who if they put there mind to it can be very good defenders in the NBA. I think if John Wall puts his mind to it he can be one of the best defensive guards in the NBA 3 years into his career. Having long arms isn't everything, but it helps out a lot, and with his long arms he can guard 2 guards w/o giving anything up, or guard a point guard and give them fits. Devin Ebanks is someone else I could see being a shut down defender in the NBA.
some people ask me how a guy like luke walton is in the nba over a guy like kenny gregory. i tell them take a hard look. if you arent a star then a team wants you to do something really well or a couple of things pretty well. the nba is full of athletes but alot of teams dont need that. they need a guy who wont make a bunch of mistakes and hit the open shot because there star gets double teamed or go downlow get a rebound bring it up make a nice pass. its not always about one on on talent. it is when youre talking about a top player but once you start to go down to role players its more about can that player play a specific role if that role isnt to score alot or get dunks
Exactly, it's all about knowing your role. I mean I have no problem with a guy believing he is an all-star best guy on the court, but if they act that way it will hurt them because teammates don't want that type of personality on the court. That's why people have to understand character can't be underestimated when having someone on your team.
youre right...m ost of what defense is is effort. but if a guy is great on offense then it doesnt matter how good of a defender you are hes gonna get his points. the game is made for guys to be able to score.. you cant know which way the guy is gonna go with the ball everytime or if hes gonna pull up or not plus screens and the fact you cant hand check.. that makes it very very hard
Josh Lomers had 2 fouls in 5 seconds....Whatastiff
I understand the role players things but what exactly would his role be?
LaceDarius Dunn has been a mismatch for Singler.
Udoh has some nice handles for a big man.
Fouls piling up for Baylor.
Josh Lomers is terrible, almost worse than Luis Colon. But not quite
Noooooo...Zoubek with 4!
the same role luke walton has on his team. someone who is tall and can hit open shots make passes and has a high basketball iq
Why does Scott Drew keep putting A.J. Walton in the game? He's been terrible this game..He's not scoring, dribbling too much, and he doesn't know where to be on D. Every time he gets in Duke goes on a run.
a intangable guy. much harder to find that then it is to find a athlete
i never want to hear the words russian playboy again
you know the same way someone says a player cant make it because look how they are doing against a athletic team... you have to look at it from the other point of view as well and see how some of those athletes are doing against a team thats not athletic as them
No way a guy who can pass maybe little above average and can shoot ever go in 1st round in this draft. Just dont think he be much of an asset at the next level.
Nolan Smith is looking real good.
Tweety Carter is a player I've always been big on. He's stepping up.
Ekpe Udoh is looking real good. He's raised his stock since the toury started.
happens more then you think in the late first round when you have teams that have all the scorers they need and are set at pretty much every position. they either trade the pick or they pick someone who can contibute by hitting open shots right now. or rebound or pass or block shots
Udoh has impressed me with his handles for a big guy. I think he will enter this year no matter where he is drafted because of his age. He is fearless, and I like that and believe he will pay dividends to the team that drafts him.