Charles Garcia, Sylvan Landesberg, both appear to be undrafted players
this sites opinion
not saying this site has any nba sources ,which they dont seem to have, but ive said these guys are second round picks at best while some think both are first rounders and some said earlier that charles is a lotto pick. what do ya'll think
Charles will be a early-mid 2nd round pick from what I've heard. Sylvan will be a middle-late. Both of these guys will get drafted. Personally I think GS should draft Charles with the 3rd pick in the 2nd round. He can rebound and score...Especially in that system. He would probably be better than Anthony Tolliver because he can get to the line consistantly. He's a turnover machine and he doesn't really play great defense...Other reasons why GS should draft him lol. IDK about Sylvan. Maybe the Spurs can draft him in the 2nd round? Maybe he will replace Malik Harristons role except add a little more offense. Who knows.
What do you mean we don't have NBA sources? That's pretty off base and wildly inaccurate.
We've even broken major trades before. (Mayo for Love comes to mind -- we were the first with that.)
Just Quincey being Quincey...Don't take it to heart lol.
charles garcia is a monster hes early to mid second easily end of story. who ever told you he will be undrafted is full of crap
I think both will be picked, but both are 2nd round picks. Garcia has to declare because of the way his stock dropped throughout the season and the level of competition. Landesburg just doesn't wanna do the school thing anymore and could have a chance to play overseas because of his parents' heritage if he gets a passport. He will be in the NBA though more than likely, maybe not next season but in the next 2 or 3 seasons.
Garcia will go in the late second round. And landesbourg will go undrafted. I have not heard too much of him, and I don't think he is even projected as a pick on this site. Both will need to have a strong performance in the combine.
having NBA sources does not really garner creditability because number one most of the Gm's are stupid and no one knows how these player will do during workouts. There has been many guys that have been unknown come out of nowhere. People thought Evans went to high and now it is he went too low. Same experts same Curry was not a point and unathletic. I watched a few games and determined that to be false. Just because a person has a job in a field does not make them an expert. It just means hey know people who obviously i don't. I could be a better GM and scout than more than half of those doing the job right now.
This was his first interview since the season-ending suspension and the university’s announcement that he was going to pursue a professional career.
“I told my father before the season that I’m pretty sure I’m going to leave after this year. I think I’m ready. Last year, I had the opportunity as well to leave. A lot of people were asking me what I was going to do, and in my heart I felt there were a lot of things I need to work on, like work on my jump shot, because I didn’t feel like it was consistent enough last year, and other aspects of my game. I came back this year, and improved a lot of the little things I needed to work on. The things I improved, that I needed to, I got a little better. That’s what I needed to solidify to be a player on the next level.”
Landesberg returned to New York for workouts last summer, including invitation-only games at the New York Athletic Club with professional basketball players. The performances helped convince Landesberg of his professional prospects.
"The NBA is a lot different from the college game,” Sylven said. ”College game is a lot more help defense. I learned that from playing with the pros. It's a little more tougher to score in the college level than on the NBA level. I feel like you have to be talented, you have to be able to make one-on-one moves and knock your shot down. I feel like it's more open. That's the kind of game I like to play. When I was playing at the New York Athletic Club, I was doing very well in that area. After I was doing well with the pros, they were going back to their teams and they were talking to their general managers about their people over there, telling them about me. That's where a lot of attention toward me started coming, from word-of-mouth with NBA players I played against. I felt like I was able to play at that level."
Sylven Landesberg has been training for the past few weeks with various professional trainers for about five hours per day from Mondays to Saturdays. He has not yet signed with an agent, although he said he receives calls “all the time” from agents and “it’s getting a little out of control.” Steve Landesberg said the fact that some of the NBA’s top agents are pursuing his son is validation of his draft prospects.
The feedback they have received about Sylven Landesberg's professional prospects is "very optimistic." Steve said they've spoken to people "in the know" who said he's "definitely a professional player" and could fall in the late first round or second round of the NBA draft. Sylven Landesberg also has a European passport -- his father is of Austrian descent -- so Europe is an option as a backup plan.
"He will be able to support himself," Steve said. "All ideas aren't 100 percent. But if the good in an idea outweighs the bad, it's a good idea."
They'll get drafted, but neither is a first rounder. Sylvan has some skills and Garcia is intriguing. I could see Landesberg doing what Calathes did last year. And LOL at this sight having sources. If you had them your mock draft wouldn't suck year in, year out.
^^How much do you wanna bet you get banned? LOL
that would be pretty wrong to ban someone for an opinion.. i could see if he was tryna get peopel to go to his created site or something. and maybe they do have sources but i doubt they have nba sources. i read most of there articles and more are either there opnion or somenews they got from somewhere else. not saying thats bad because very very few sites actually have nba sources. And when sites come up with info before other people they more often then night say they have a nba source who told them instead of just a source. at least they dont lie about having sources( some sites have and got caught) that i know of and just let fans assume that they do, which isnt wrong
Adi said that they do have NBA sources...Third or fourth post on this thread.
adi i gave u -1 points
like i said i doubt it... my opinion
"not saying this site has any nba sources ,which they dont seem to have"
Hey Quincey, I have scout contacts with virtually every NBA team. I speak with dozens of scouts on a regular basis. What do you base your statement off of?
Aran, Don't you know? Quincey is all knowing! LOL
my opinion. maybe you do maybe you dont. my opinion is not. im sure its not a big deal to you or anyone else since thats just my opinion. peopel may think its wrong peopel may think its right. in the end its still my opinion
not all knowing just all opinion.
quincey is just annoyin and want ppl to pay attention to him rather than the actual topic...why would adi lie lol thats nonsense
yeah people never lie tigers youre right
if i want attention as you say isnt the best way to not give me that attention is to not respond?..therefore dont respond..if im wrong then im wrong
an opinion is something that other ppl dirsagree on things that u cant prove..like sayin john wall is gonna be better than evan turner in the nba is an opinion...whether they know nba scouts or not is not an opinion..makes no sense..
ok..whats youre point..i know what a opinion is and thats my opinion..just liek some people have an opinion that coach cal cheated but have no proof. pretty much my opinion is no different then a guy saying he has scout sources..both are just words backed up by no proof
Yea that's not an opinion. lol. It's either he does talk to scouts or he doesn't.
not saying this site has any nba sources ,which they dont seem to have,
That sound more like a statement to me Quincey.
no thats ingorance..not an opinion
let me rephrase that then..my opinion is that they do not...is that better
and i agree iggy.. either they do or they dont. theres no proof either way so it is what it is
That's still a statement, because it could be proven. You would just have to see or listen to them interact with the scout. And opinion would be that they don't talk to scouts "often" or something like that.
Aran, you should make a video of you talking to a scout so you can prove to Quincey.
An opinion is a subjective statement or thought about an issue or topic, and is the result of emotion or interpretation of facts. An opinion may be supported by an argument, although people may draw opposing opinions from the same set of facts. Opinions rarely change without new arguments being presented. However, it can be reasoned that one opinion is better supported by the facts than another by analysing the supporting arguments. 
An opinion may be the result of a person's perspective, understanding, particular feelings, beliefs, and desires. In casual use, the term opinion may refer to unsubstantiated information, in contrast to knowledge and fact-based beliefs.
if improven wrong i will gladley say im wrong just liek i have on other topics
I agree with that definition. But it contradicts what you say.
As I said, it can be proven if you see/hear Aran or Adi interact with a scout.
not sure how its different.the facts that i call facts for my opinion is all the post are from the sites own opinion. i dont think ive seen one say "from a nba source that i have talked to" and if there was one that said that no one knows if thats really from a source or just the person saying its from a source
You are a regular on the forum and post frequently. If you don't think we know what we're talking about, or believe in us, nobody is forcing you to come to the site.
Where I do have a problem is when you discredit the site and make false statements that you know nothing about. Why would having NBA scout contacts be such a difficult thing to believe? We go to numerous NBA events. We talk to scouts. We stay in touch with scouts. Some are interested in hearing our opinions on players, some aren't. Some are open to sharing info on players, some aren't. Scouts are regular people like you, and some have off the wall opinions just like you...
I would love NY to add both Landesberg and Garcia but with 2 high 2nd rounders- unlikely
Landesberg could be a good guy off the bench. If I'm correct- he's only 20. He has some potential to work with and could be a solid guard. I think he won't get drafted without a good camp.
Garcia? He's up in the air. He was being called Lamar Odom which was somewhat confusing when u look at his numbers ( 1 assist per game)
"not sure how its different.the facts that i call facts for my opinion is all the post are from the sites own opinion. i dont think ive seen one say "from a nba source that i have talked to" and if there was one that said that no one knows if thats really from a source or just the person saying its from a source"
What in the devil are you talking about?
exactly..no one is forceing me to believe that ya'll have nba sources. and my state,ments are only considered false if they are proven so. just saying they are false doesnt make it false. now i never asked for this site to prove it but, just because you say its false doesnt make it false. i can say i should be in the nba or have sources of my own but that doesnt make it ture just because i say it. people either believe me or they dont. either way it makes no difference to me just like i would expect it not to make a difference to you. and we all have opinions that some consider off the wall just like some of you'res
now as far as garcia i do remember some saying he was suppossed to be a lotto pick. but not many think so now. why is that?..i havent watched him much so i wouldnt know why...iggy have you seen him lately
An opinion is a subjective statement or thought about an issue or topic, and is the result of emotion or interpretation of facts....
my opinion was based off of the fact that i had not seen a article from this site that said it was from one of there nba sources....you under stand now iggy
that fits with thougth of a issue or topic an is a result of emotion or interpretation of facts
Quincey, if you only come on the forum and never read actual articles written on the site than I don't know what to tell you. If you actually read the site's articles, you're not paying attention. Every stock watch we put on the site refers to NBA scouts thoughts on players. Scouts are not permitted to speak about underclassmen on the record, and many are not willing to share info about players if their name is attached to it. We've done interviews with NBA scouts. Pete Philo and Rob Meurs to name a couple off the top of my head. What more evidence would you like? Phone numbers? Social security numbers? Would you like a list of all the scout contacts we have to call them and verify we speak with them?
social security would be nice.
i would like to vote u guys out and get new leaders on this site
i would like to vote u guys out and get new leaders on this site
draft express is way more reliable
This topic makes me smile. :D