Big Sofo Mix Tape
lol at all the "NBA experts" and "American Euroleague experts" in this forum that say he cannot play in the NBA. You guys are ridiculous comedians making a big joke. Every center in the NBA would never know what hit them when Baby Shaq comes to the US.
Eddy Curry was the first Baby Shaq, just saying...
6'8 315 lbs?
He is at best a role player in europe but you realy try to convince people he is/will be a star..he isnt even the best bigman on his own team.Off the top of my head joel freeland, fran vasquez, pekovic, asik all have better chances of being on an nba roster over the next few years than sofo ever does.If you were making a case for any of them it would be different but you choose a player who hasnt changed anything about his game in the last 3 years and doesnt seem to care about losing weight or improving his stamina (which is the main problem holding him back from being a dominant force longer than 15 minutes)
He runs the floor well for a man his size, but he also is using that size against guys who are not nearly as big or strong as the competition he would face in the NBA. Also he is only 6'8" which is pretty short for a C. 7'2" wingspan helps but he is a man amongst boys in Euroleague and is not dominating like he should be. Could be a nice prospect but nothing more nothing less at this point.
Official NBA draft measurement is 6-10 in shoes. Not 6-8. Also the Euroleague is full of 6-11 and 7-0 centers. You make comments out of myth and not fact.
said this many times. he is not a dominate big man. not there not here. its that simple. sometimes you have to look at reality
in euroleauge games hes averaging 6.8pts and 2.2 rebounds and only 2.1 fouls
in greece leauge hes averaging 9.2pts and 3.2 reb and only 2.8 fouls
Of course, QUINCEY, the great American Euroleague expert that obviously has never watched the Euroleague.
not only have i watched it ive played in it. my brother has also played in it. my boy Tanoka Beard dominated. my cousin derrick chandler did as well. you just cant faqce reality that hes not a dominate big man. is he a bum?..no cuz he has talent but hes not a dominate big man. he hasnt shown it against the usa when they played nba games. didnt show it in the olympics nor during this or last season. so how can you expect anyone to agree that hes dominate when he hasnt shown it?..
QUINCEY, you never played in the Greek A1 League or the Euroleague. No one that talks like you do about those elite level European leagues as "ridiculous jokes" ever played there.
You are too much. The same leagues that Josh Childress and Linas Kleiza said are just barely a little bit below the NBA level. Yeah sure, you "played there". Yeah, if you did "play there" with the way you talk about those "scrub joke leagues" it must have been back in the 1970s. Who do you think you are fooling?
Even in the Greek League which is certainly not as strong as the Euroleague, every year there are D-League all stars that try to make it with small clubs in the Greek League and most of them get cut for poor play and not being good enough within 1 week to 1 month. Because most of the best D-League players can't even make it in the top domestic Greek League.
Your comments in this board are comical.
heres a link to all his games and stats
also if you sign up to that you are able to watch a couple of his games
He could play in the NBA, but he wouldn't be dominant. Anyone who remembers him setting that high screen for Papaloukas against Team USA knows that he isn't just some big stiff. He is a mammoth of a man, but he is so big (without the 20-something Shaq-like freak of nature athletic ability) that he might struggle to deal with the volume of games and minutes that would come in the NBA resulting in injuries and constant fatigue. Also, the incentive to leave one of the richest teams in Greece just is not there. Why leave a team where he is playing with half his national team teammates, gets treated wonderfully by ownership, and playing in Athens when the awful Clippers possess his NBA rights?
< waiting for a knicks fan to say he would look good on there team
did i say i played in greek or euro leauges?..and when did i say scrub?...im always the one defending euroleauges and how good players are over there and how some nba players go overseas and struggle. look at my old post. you obviously got me confused with someone else.
and players dont get cut cuz they cant play they get cut because the style is different. teams concentrate on the team game alot more then the individual game
u asked me about euroleauge but then try to come down on me for lying about playing in the greek leauge when i never said i played in the greek leauge
please show me where i said they are "ridiculous jokes"?...i really would like to see that since im the main on on here that has always defended overseas basketball and said that its below the nba...so please show me where i said that or are you just making it up because youre upset about nothing?
"This game was very exciting as both teams played well all night as both teams change leads several time throughout the game.
The exciting and ultra quick and athletic point guard Kenny Pascley (183-G-85, college: Tiffin) scored 18pts & 3ast, Brian Lathan played well and had 11pts & 5ast & 5stls; Marcus Heard (201-F-84, agency: 540 Sports, college: De Paul) was great all night and had a couple of monster dunks and he scored 20pts and grabbed 8rbs; Quincy Hodges (196-G-81) chipped in 13pts; Mensah Sadikki Taylor (198-F-80, college: Gardner-Webb) had a great all around game and is a very talented and lighting quick player who scored 16pts, 8rbs and 6ast and Chris Hunt (198-F-85, college: Occidental) was great as well by scoring 19pts and grabbing 5rbs".
QUINCEY if you never played in Greek A1, Spanish ACB, or Euroleague then you have no idea what the level of European basketball is. It's like a guy that only played in the D-League claiming because he played there he knows exactly what the level of the NBA is.
Just so you know, I did play in the A1 and coached also in Greece in a club's youth squad. I have also coached in the USA. And I can tell you that the Greek League is much more physical than the NBA is. MUCH more physical. Dominique Wilkins himself told me that the Greek League was a lot more physical than the NBA.
All of your comments about stats, about stamina and minutes played clearly show that you have no idea what you are talking about. I am sorry, but you clearly don't know anything about Schortsanitis and you keep acting like you are some expert on him. I hate to break it to you, but just in the Greek League there are centers like Sofo, Bourousis, Pekovic, Vujcic that could easily be amongst the top 10 centers in the NBA.
Not to mention centers like Sofo, Pekovic, Glyniadakis that are all much more physical than any NBA center I can think of. Pekovic is more physical in the low post than any center in the NBA and Sofo has played him many times. Glyniadakis is easily more physical than any big man in the entire NBA. The simple fact is that Americans have nothing but false perceptions and myths about basketball in Europe. Believe me, with my background in basketball in the US working with youth camps in coaching I do NOT make claims about any European players being able to play well in the NBA without good reason.
The only thing that could possibly prevent Sofo from being a great NBA center would be if he got stuck with an NBA coach that hates European players like what happened to Macijauskas or Spanoulis. But that will not happen because no Greek player will ever sign with such a coach again after what happened to Spanoulis. Sofo plays every day in practice against Vujcic (the best Euroleague center of the decade and named best player in Europe 3 times by NBA GMs), against Glyniadakis who played in the NBA and is the most physical big man alive, against Mavrokefalidis who is a draft pick of the Wolves and is a very highly skilled 6-11 big with definite NBA level talent, and against Bourousis who is at the very LEAST a bigger and more athletic version of Memo Okur.
He plays against better competition in Olympiacos PRACTICE than he would see in an average NBA game at his position.
played euroleauge and proved it many times over. maybe you should come up here more and you would know that. watched many many many top leauge games because my brother played in many many top leauge games. i put up stats for those who have never seen him play
youre the only person in the world..who thinks he would be a dominate player. does that tell you something...please explain what hes done for you to even think he would be a dominate player?...hes played against nba teams and couldnt dominate so you think hes magically gonna dominat?..the guys cant even play a whole game without fouling out or running out of gas because he's lazy and in bad shape.
you can say he can dominate till youre face is blue but untill you provide proo all it is is talk...talk talk talk...i dont know about you but i rather someone show me some type of proof when it comes to saying someone can dominate
lol..right better in practice then nba games. you sir are clueless and im willing to bet you have never played basketball competitively on any level. youre just one of the overzealous fans arent you?..be honest
and good players dontmake excuses like "oh its the coaches fault"..no it wasnt the coachs fault it was the players fault. being the best big man in the last decade means squat in the nba. NBA the best basketball leauge in the world BAR NONE. we run basketball. not greece, germany,china etc U.S.A and dont you forget it:)
QUINCEY you are simply full of it. You are also clearly very lacking in basketball knowledge and you seem to be a xenophobe. I am totally through with discussing things with you as you are not worth wasting any more time on.
as dj khalid says...WE THE BEST. so now back to you...what level of basketball have YOU PLAYED?
you dont have to talk about it because the facts are hes not as good as you say and doesnt even dominate on his own team. he got punished when he played against nba teams and in the olympics.. i watched those games... facts dont lie buddy... let me guess the coaches didnt know what they were doing thats why he couldnt hang with the nba teams he played against?...lol..excuses excuses excuses
i think European Baller is sofo or his mom