Cmon now guys, Eric Bledsoe in the lottery? Thats insane.
Yeah, I know he has a nice frame, and he is very athletic.
But His ball handling isnt the best, he is very very turnover prone, and after looking at some statistics he shoots around 40% around the basket which isnt very good. I dont even think Bledsoe should declare this year, he needs to stay in school at least 1 more year. He needs to improve on so many things. I almost smacked myself when I seen Bledsoe at 12 on the mock, at best he should be an late first rounder/ early second rounder.
Anyone agree with me?
By the way, I know what a good tourney can do for you, but jeez.
And No, im not a Kentucky hater, I actually like them.
The reason he's in the lottery isnt because he's a finished product. It's his upside. He's kinda short but makes up for that with a great wingspan. I read 6'8" but i could be wrong. He's also very athletic. His upside coupled with the fact that there are virtually no point guards better than him entering the draft besides John Wall is what makes him a lottery pick.
Thats my take. I think he'll be a lottery pick next year if he comes out as well depending on if the elite freshman point guards from next year go 1 and done, namely Irving and Knight
No Points guards better than Bledsoe entering the draft? Try Avery Bradley, even though he is not always consistent, and he plays sg, he will most likely play pg in the nba.
Im not hating on Bledsoe, and I know this pg class in this years draft is weak but I the only thing thats goood about him is he has potential to be a good defender, thats it. All that athletic stuff just doesent cut it for me after awhile. Everybody is athletic nowa'days. But yeah, you might be right, but dont you think its a mistake if he enters this year?
I agree yeah it would be a mistake, IF, he gets to play the point next year at kentucky. If Brandon Knight comes to UK next year, he'll be playing the off guard again, which i think isnt a good use of his time. In that case he might as well go to the league and learn the point from the best and play against the best. I think Bradley has more upside than Bledsoe but I think he has more question marks as well. Bledsoe has played the point in hgih school and was moved to off guard in college. Bradley has never played the point and has always played the off guard. I love bradley's athleticism and his defense but i still think you gotta take Bledsoe in the lottery if he comes out. Both he and Bradley should be lottery picks IMO
see thats the thing...hes a lotto pick in some mock drafts which are based on some guy's opinion. dont take the mock drafts to seriously... and yes i agree its insane that they have him in the lotto
Avery Bradley is not a point guard at all and will never be one. If Knight comes to UK, he will be behind Bledsoe who has proved he deserved the starting pg spot, though he has to cut his turnovers down. Bledsoe has athleticism but also a very good outside shot which is quite rare for somone his age. Plus, with Orton staying and the coming of Kanter, Bledsoe may have the opportunity to make it once again to the Final Four if UK manage to make it this year. He will be a top ten pick next year, he doesn't need to hurry.
I think its been tough for him to play alongside Wall all year because he really is more of a pure PG but even with that I have not seen a better PG prospect this year. Idk if that makes him a lotto pick but he is the 2nd best PG prospect so if a team needs a PG in the lotto then he is their man.
khoss how you figure bradley will never be a pg?..really?
and knight is better the bledsoe so im not sure what you are talking about.. knight wont play behind anyone
and someone tell what he has done as a pg to be considered the 2nd best pg?..he scores sometimes but hes not considered a top nba score so that leaves the ability to run a team as a pg , get ast while not turning the ball over alot.....so how has he rated in those aspects? has he looked more like a pg playeing beside wall or a sg?..i think alot of people are getting blinded by his scoring which in turn has tricked some of yall into thinking that that equates into being a good nba pg
Avery Bradley doesn't play like a PG at all. He doesn't even show promising passing skills and court vision like a college version of Russell Westbrook. He's 100% SG right now and he's NEVER been given the opportunity to play point (Coach Barnes' fault?)..
right now..sg but he has shown the ability to become a good pg in the games he has played pg. hes shown no less ability to be a pg then bledsoe actually which baffles me when some say theres no way avery cant be a pg but bledsoe can. then from reading other sites evaluation all saying bradley has the abilty to become a pg int he future really baffles me to thinking have ya'll ever seen the kid play. westbrook showed average court vision at best while at ucla
but just liek everythign else these are all opinions. and nba scouts all project him as a first rounder this year even with his lack of pg skills as some of ya'll say so he must be doing something right or they must see some future pg in him unless they are so happy with him as a under sized sg which i doubt
You know I don't know that Bledsoe can be a good PG. I said it yesterday I don't see him being an NBA caliber starter next year and I think his ceiling is similar to a change of pace PG like Kyle Lowry.
Westbrook put up 3 or 4 assists a game as a Sophomore. I'd be SHOCKED if Bradley got more than 2 and a half assists a game in college. Bradley has looked alot worse than Westbrook passing the ball and creating for others. More selfish and he actually doesn't even pass the ball much at all. I've seen Texas play a bunch this season and nobody on that team looks to pass the ball alot.
as a soph..bradley is a freshman...what did westbrook put up ast wise as a freshman?..i think that would be more comparable
as a freshman he had .7 ast. didnt play a bunch of minutes and didnt look like a future nba pg. but looked liek a undersize sg who was a good defender. that sounds familar
No it wouldn't. Westbrook got no relevant PT a freshman
Westbrook was too raw to look like an undersized or good anything. He played no meaningful time.
exactly he didnt look like a meaningful anything and didnt get alot of time. then made a nice jump his soph year. so its not out of the question for bradley to make a jumpand look like a pg or get 2 more ast a game since he will be running the point alot more
That's no guarantee. Balbay, Lucas, and Brown all return at the PG so they could be the PG's again. And Bradley showed nothing in terms of PG ability this season to put him over those 3, who all played more minutes at the PG than he did last season.
maybe he wont play the point more. thats still not a sure thing that he can become a point. there are no absolutes when trying to determine a players future so it makes no sense for someone to say they know exactly what type of player a person will become in a year or by the time they are a rookie in the nba. and ive seen some games where he showed nice pg ability. put liek i said before 2 people can watch the same game and see 2 different things
He didn't play PG to show nice PG ability though. I watched at least 15 Texas games this season and he literally played PG for like maybe 2 or 3 possessions at most. And he averages 2 assists a game. He's even farther back in terms of his PG development than Bledsoe is. He didn't even play a lick of PG in HS with Abdul Gaddy as his teammate. Bledsoe at least has played the PG before college. Bradley isn't that good a prospect at all right now honestly.
liek i said 2 people who watch the same game see 2 different things
When though? I have never seen him play PG at all and do anything of note. You think he's farther along in his PG development than Bledsoe? Despite not even ever playing PG at all for meaningful time on a team thats biggest weakness was PG?
yep sure do. just liek scouts thought westbrook was further along as a pg then other pg who played more minutes at it. and im not certain but i think the scouts see the same thing potentially or they wouldnt project him as a first round pick. unless they think hes gonna be a hell of a under sized sg
So because scouts said Westbrook was farther along than Darren Collison as a PG (which they actually didn't say..they probably thought he had more potential as a player) then Avery Bradley who has never played point guard or ever shown PG ability is farther along as a PG than someone who has played PG before and even though he's not looked good playing the PG spot in college but is a better and more unselfish playmaker? That doesn;t really make sense.
I haven't seen any scout of draft sites say that Bradley is a potential PG. That's actually a weakness to them. The fact that he didn't ever play PG for a team that had poor PG play should speak for itself as well. It's not likely he had an All-American PG like Westbrook did with Collison.
IMO... If your saying Bledsoe needs to stay another season- So does Bradley. That's just my opinion.
no that means its possible. its not impossible for him to becoem a pg as you and the other guy said unless ya'll can predict the future. and if thats a weakness for him then wouldnt that mean they think hes gonna be a pretty good sg since they project him as a mid first rounder?...i doubt that but i could be wrong maybe they do view him as a ben gordan teype. in any case you or me cant say he wont be able to play point guard becomes neither of us know. and thats not a opinion thats a fact
i agree both need to stay another year and both have the potential( being the key word) to become pg at the next level
"Bradley’s lack of anything resembling playmaking skills or a point guard mentality may be his most concerning attribute projecting to the pros, as it’ll be very tough to play him at the 1-spot without great shot-creators around him. While Bradley is capable of making flow-of-the-offense passes to open shooters at times, when he puts the ball on the floor he goes into clear scorer mode, looking exclusively for his own shot, even out of pick-and-roll scenarios. Developing into a more versatile pick-and-roll threat could vastly open up his own offense, while also giving teams another reason to give him playing time. This might be the most important thing to follow as the freshman’s career progresses. "
"At 6’3 he is undersized for a SG and he lacks the extreme quickness and skills required to play the lead guard position … He gets tunnel vision and becomes focused strictly on getting his own shot … As a distributor he is subpar, since his decision making and passing skills are limited"
He cant dribble or shoot as good as Ben Gordon. He's not that good. Everyone will see..He is an undersized SG who is pretty good shooter who plays great D. He's not that strong and is a below-averajge finisher around the rim, he isn't a great slasher or ball-handler, and he shows no playmaking ability. He's a late 1st round pick in all mocks, but his stock dropped after that loss in the 1st round vs. Wake. He should return and work on alot of things in his arsenal.
lol..im not understanding youre point still. youre point is you dont think he can become a pg mien is i think he will. youre not gonna change my mind and im not changing youre so only time will tell. and since neither of us knows what the future holds neither of us knows for sure. i could pull up a scouting report by draftexpress that shows how wrong they were about a coupel of players. too tired to do that now but somethign tells me i porbably will
not to mention the way Ish Smith hit him with good move to create space to hit the game winner...lol
hats youre opinion that hes not that good. my opinion is he is. netiher of us is right nor wrong since he isnt in the nba so it is what it is
ish smith isnt even in the disscussion.. he has no chance of going first round this year..lol
What is he good at? Other than shooting and defense?
Ish hit him with the hesitation pull-up. "In your eye"
They've been wrong about their projection, but have they ever said someone had a skill that they didn't have? No one is perfect when making predictions about a persons career, but they are 99.9% right when it comes to breaking down strengths and weaknesses.
im still wondering the point youre trying to make. youre not changing my mind reguardless what you put so whats the point youre trying to make. you made it clear you dont think hes good i made it clear that i do..what more do you want?..lol..and what exactly did ish do that second game?..if imnot mistaken both of them are home watching the tournament like me..lol
but they dont know what a player will become or what they will work on during the summer. and thats a 100percent fact:)
He did more than Bradley realistically, seeing as Wake beat Bradley's team.
But what does Bradley do well other than shoot and defend at an NBA level? That's the point I'm trying to make. If that's all he has going for him, what makes him better than alot of other college players?
i recall reading about patterson on there and how he couldnt shoot past a certain range. low and behold he worked on it and can now hit the 3. you see players work on there games during the summer and come back with a better game then they did last year. thats what most players do. yet another reason why i say you dont know what he will be in the future just like i dont know. gotta realize that youre opinion is just that..an opinion just like mine is just a opinion
ok and other players did more then other players to beat there team..northern i over kansas butler over the cuse. every one gets shots hit on them. thats part of the game.. you take it move on and work on youre game and let the fans hold on to it to make them feel better or something
Bledsoe = C.J. Watson
cuz in the long run that shot matterer very lil for either players career
The point I'm making is from when you said Bradley, despite never playing PG, is a better PG than Bledsoe, who even though he hasn't played good this season at the point has done more playmaking and has been more unselfish than Bradley has.
I hear what your saying about the summer and getting better and all that crap....but it has nothing to do with what I'm talking about. So that's why it makes no sense to bring that up in this argument. Talking apples and oranges.
Isn't a pg lol...I agree Iggy he has shown nothing to really make you think that he could play pg in the NBA. He gets tunnel vision and only looks for his shot. He is an excellent defender though...And that would probably be an understatement. I'd take him over Bledsoe though. To say that Bledsoe is overrated would be an understatement. He is very turnover prone and doesn't even play pg for their team. Yes, he is athletic and quick...And he can hit 3's...And?
I can only hope Bledsoe and Bradley have the career Eric Snow had. They could both play off the bench in Portland.
Bledsoe should leave this year.....Not because he's ready, but because this is a weak draft for pg's.
But he is not the 2nd best PG in college......Kemba Walker is.....that is all
he should stay but if he want to declare he will be TOP 15.