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bored so im doing my own possible comparisions

many people will say no thats way off because of what these guys did in the nba but im baseing this off of what they did in college and the praise and hype they go in college. most of the people who dont agree will be young people who dont remember these guys in college

and none of these are impossible because they have been plenty of players who were hyped to be all this and all that but didnt pan out and some of the older users will agree with the hype surrounding some of these guys coming out of hs and college

evan turner-jalen rose/larry hughes
patrick patterson-tim thomas/johnwallace
demarcus cousins-bison dele/sharone wright/zach randolph
luke babbit-keith van horn
eric bledsoe-shawn respert/travis best/khalid reeves
james anderson-kerry kittles/eddie jones/lamond murry
Al-Farouq Aminu-sharif abdul rahem same with greg monroe
wesley johnson-donyell marshall/stacy augman
xavier henry-lamond murry/allen houston
cole aldrich-luc longly


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derrick favors-lorenzen

derrick favors-lorenzen wright
damion james-dontae jones/clerence weatherspoon

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My Comparisons

John Wall - Derrick Rose/Dwayne Wade
Evan Turner- Brandon Roy
Wesley Johnson - Danny Granger/Shawn Marion
Ed Davis - PJ Brown/Tyrus Thomas
Donatas Motiejunas - Andrea Bargnani
Derrick Favors - Al Horford/Amare Stoudimire
DeMarcus Cousins - Al Jefferson/Andray Blatche/Benoit Benjamin
Cole Aldrich - Andris Biedrins/Joel Prizbilla
Devin Ebanks - Nicolas Batum
Solomon Alabi - Samuel Dalembert
Greg Monroe - Lamar Odom
Xavier Henry - Jimmy Jackson/Allan Houston
Paul George - Rudy Gay
Willie Warren - Ben Gordon/Rodney Stuckey
Al-Farouq Aminu - Luol Deng
Craig Brackins - Charlie Villanueva
Larry Sanders - Sean Williams
Michael Washington - Tonny Battie/Antonio McDyess after injuries
Luke Babbitt - Kyle Korver/Keith Van Horn
Patrick Patterson - Kenyon Martin/Jason Maxiell
Gani Lawal - Chris Wilcox/Leon Powe
Damion James - Shawn Marion
Stanley Robinson - Gerald Wallace
James Anderson - Nick Anderson/Brandon Rush
Sherron Collins - Will Bynum
Trevor Booker - Brandon Bass
Jarvis Varnado - Theo Ratliff

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wow 6 allstars in this draft

wow 6 allstars in this draft possibly...how many of those guys were as good as the guys you compare them 2 in college?

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Patrick Patterson

Patrick Patterson is too physical inside to be Tim Thomas, sure he can shoot jumpers but isnt as good as Tim thomas. When Cousins was in HS he was mostly a post/hustle player. a better comparison would be Carl Landry, plus Damion James is way too fast, athletic and small to be compared to Clarence Weatherspoon, he is a poor mans Shawn Marion.

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watching both in college

watching both in college those comparisions are pretty legit clerence was atghletic and fats in college as well. tim thomas used to bang some in college as well. so nope the comparisions arent far off at all. alot closer then shawn marion who never banged in college where as clerence and damion did

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and cousins wasnt a hustle

and cousins wasnt a hustle player. he always got hell for not hustleing. he was a skilled lazy player

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I didnt mean Cousins is a

I didnt mean Cousins is a hustle player I meant Patterson

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lol..i was about to

lol..i was about to say...and yeah patterson hustles more then tim but with every comparisions you will find a thing or 2 that one player does that the other didnt. landry didnt shoot as well from deep as patterson in college so theres one thing right there that one did that the other didnt

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Devin Ebanks

To Nicolas Batum? Don't like that comparison. Nic is a lights out shooter and is a true 3. Ebanks is a combo forward and can't shoot to save his life.

Quincey-You think Favors will be better though than Wright...right?

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he could be.but he could

he could be.but he could easily be just like wright as well. thats reality. players with potential dont always pan out to be stars. ron mercer was suppossed to be a allstar as well as stromile swift and christian lattner( although he did make a all star team) so players who were all americans in hs and good players or even great in college can always turn out to be less then what is expected. some people just cant accept that though

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I know

Yeah I know...I was asking for your personal opinion though. Personally, I think the guy will be a stud, but that's just me.

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-i think he will be ok. most

-i think he will be ok. most big men who are raw on offense tend to not ever become offensive forces. i think he become a good rebounder and a pretty good shot blocker but im not as high on him as many others.

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Disagree

Gotta remember that he played for GT. The guards on that team were idiots and were the worst I've ever seen at feeding the post. He has shown a steady improvment with his jumper and he has excellent hands and finishes well. Yes, he needs to improve his footwork, but it will come with time. IMO he's gonna become a big time player. We know what he brings to the table physically, he just needs to improve his footwork and stop commiting stupid fouls. Something that comes with time. Dude is still 18 (I think people forget that).

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his offense has always been

his offense has always been a question even before gt. he always scored off of being bigger stronger and more athletic then the guys who faces him. looking at the synergy numbers thing his jumper is still the same. he hit at the same clip from beinning of the year to the end. he can be come better on offense sure anyone can but history has shown most raw big men with no post skills who are athletic never become stars offensively. i know his age and there have been many other 18 years olds who werent as athletic but had better foot work. too many fans use that as a crutch way to many times about a guy

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Aminu

With that being said on potential, I think Al Farouq will not become Shareef Abdur Rahim. I was too young to watch Shareef in college but Abdur Rahim was a guy who can score and has an all around game average 23 and 7.5and 3 for the Grizziles in 98-99 season. IMO Aminu is going be a role player in the nba because im cannot find one thing he really excels at besides athleticism and possibly rebounding.Just want your opinion.

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comparisions doesnt mean

comparisions doesnt mean thats who they will turnout to be. thats just who they are comparable to me. doesnt mean they will ever be as good

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but you are right about him

but you are right about him not being as good as reff in college. reff was a animal pure and simple. personally i think aminu can have a deng careermax

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Yup

Agree about Aminu being Deng. And as far as age is concerned, it actually means a lot. Example, if Elias Harris was the age of Favors, he would probably be considered a top-10 pick. Age means quite a bit to scouts. Favors is a year younger than basically everyone in his class and that does mean a lot...Especially from a physical stand point. He is already very strong, he can become a beast in a couple years from a strength stand point.

Let me ask you this, what makes you think that he can't become at least Al Horford?

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vincent yarbough was a year

vincent yarbough was a year younger then his class..came into college at 17 or 16...people always said...well hes younger then his class give him time..he was a allamerican..i think top 5 player coming out..people kept saying that all the time yet he never became a great player. one year isnt as big a difference as alot of fans try to make it out. talent is talent. its that simple..i can name at least 10 other guys who came in a year younger then there class mates that werent as raw as favors is on offense. once you get to a certain one year doesnt mean much. players are gonna get bigger and stronger and more skilled just like he is. cousins is gonna work and practice just like favors will. just because hes a year younger doesnt mean he will get better while everyone else whos a year older wont get better. as he gets stronger so will everyone else whos a year older then him

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never said he cant be al

never said he cant be al hortford.. he can..but he can also be alot worst as well. hes not a sure thing.. hes not bron or shaq. so just as easily someone can say he can be a star another person wouldnt be far off by saying he's not gonna be a star

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Dominique Jones

Marcus Thorton/Tyreke Evans

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Nice one

evan turner- jalen rose
patrick patterson- a motivated tim thomas
demarcus cousins- zach randolph is dead on
luke babbit- ryan anderson
eric bledsoe- more athletic eric snow
james anderson- mo pete
Al-Farouq Aminu- ak47
wesley johnson-donyell marshall/stacy augman
xavier henry- allen houston is dead on
cole aldrich- skinny big country
Gordon Hayward- Toni Kucoc
Favors- Stromile Swift

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i cant agree with the eric

i cant agree with the eric snow. snow showed he could run a team while in college. eric has shown he's athletic and can hit shots and score while defenses focus more on 3 other lotto picks but he hasnt shown a ounce of being able to run a team

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snow

snow didn't run the team at msu...... but he matured and was able to run a team in the pros.

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huh?...are you serious or

huh?...are you serious or joking?..he ran the team at msu easily.. respert scored and he ran the team...please tell me youre joking. why do you think he got drafted?..it wasnt because he was a big time scorer or big time shooter or great athlete, it was because he was great at running the team and was a very good steady point guard

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John Wall - Dwyane Wade Evan

John Wall - Dwyane Wade
Evan Turner- Brandon Roy
Wesley Johnson - Danny Grange
Ed Davis - PJ Brown
Donatas Motiejunas - Andrea Bargnani
Derrick Favors - Chris Wilcox
DeMarcus Cousins - Al Jefferson
Cole Aldrich - Joel Pryzbilia
Devin Ebanks - A young Trevor Ariza
Solomon Alabi - Samuel Dalembert
Greg Monroe - Pau Gasol meets LaMarcus Aldridge
Xavier Henry - Martell Webster
Paul George - Rudy Gay
Willie Warren - Randy Foye
Al-Farouq Aminu - Thaddeus Young/Josh Smith
Craig Brackins - Charlie Villanueva
Larry Sanders - Tyrus Thomas
Michael Washington - Tonny Battie
Luke Babbitt - Austin Croshere
Patrick Patterson - Kenyon Martin
Gani Lawal - Leon Powe
Damion James - Gerald Wallace
Stanley Robinson - Jamario Moon
James Anderson - Shandon Anderson
Sherron Collins - Will Bynum
Trevor Booker - Brandon Bass
Jarvis Varnado - Theo Ratliff
Dominique Jones- Rodney Stuckey

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hmmm seems to some this

hmmm seems to some this draft might be one of the best drafts ever

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Remember what you

Remember what you said....These comparisons aren't really based on stats. Just on who they remind you of when they play.

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thats why i said it seems..i

thats why i said it seems..i dont believe the comparisons one bit thats why i only say seems to some that it might be. im sure the comparisions is what peopel think the player might turn out to be

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John Wall - Derrick

John Wall - Derrick Rose
Evan Turner - Brandon Roy
Demarcus Cousins - Taller Al Jefferson
Derrick Favors - Antonio McDyess In Prime
Al-Farouq Aminu - Josh Smith
Cole Aldrich - Rich Man's Joel Przybilla
Ed Davis - Al Horford
Wesley Johnson - Shawn Marion
Greg Monroe - Brad Miller
Patrick Patterson - Carl Landry

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Snow

Dude was garbage.... I lived in Michigan then and he barely took the ball up the court. His senior year, he got a lot of assists, but he would barely ever take the ball up and break the press. Plus, he was never in the game at the end due to poor ft shooting. But, as a pro, he put it all together.

For Bledsoe, maybe you like Bayless or if he becomes totally shoot first, Stevey Franchise?

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wow mcdyess in his prime.

wow mcdyess in his prime. hmmm interesting..definatly not as explosive but not impossible

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i didnt live in mich but i

i didnt live in mich but i watched there games alot..and obviously he wasnt garbage because he got drafted and he did play at the end of games so i dont know what youre talking about and he brought it up on presses plenty of times... are you sure youre talking about the right eric snow?

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bledsoe francis?..or

bledsoe francis?..or bayless??..lol..please dont make me laugh. hes not on either of there levels at the same stage..not even close....thats a good one though

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I've seen some games

I've seen some games Michigan State played when he was in college on ESPN classic, and he has never been a real offensive talent (think Mario Chalmers, but with more strength and less shooting ability). He was a true PG in college and he was bigger than most of the guards he went up against too, along with having very decent athleticism for the college game. The thing I remembered most though was how bad a free throw shooter he was. He was like in the 20's or 30's percentage wise and the announcers brought it up EVERY time he shot the ball.

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Yeah

Yeah, eric snow. Same guy who let Respert run the show late so he could get to the line or toss up 34 footers. Same eric snow that was choke city at the line and cost MSU a few close games. Same guy who got drafted, sat the bench in the nba, and was finally allowed to play cus the 76ers knew he would never ever shoot it next to AI. AI loved him cus he knew Snow would look for him at all times cus Snow couldn't do anything but pass. Yeah, same eric snow.

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theres a difference between

theres a difference between someone running the show and some one shooting. respert was a shooter/scorer. snow was a set up man who didnt hurt you with mistakes. you keep saying chock at free throw line and non scorer liek that answers anythign about being a steady point guard who runs the show. youre getting all that confused with what his role was. he had his role and he did it very very well

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i dont remember snow in

i dont remember snow in college, but its hard to believe a guy with such limited skills had such a long nba career. He could defend with the best though.

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Yea he was a terrible

Yea he was a terrible offensive player for every team I can remember in the NBA, but he was a good passer in addition to his airtight D.

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if his role was not....

If his role was not making mistakes, he did that by not touching the ball late in games and not going to the line to kill his teams chances of winning.

And seriously, if Bledsoe was not in Wall's shadow and at another school, he would still easily be considered a top 5 pg at the college level right now. So yeah, he is probably a better Bayless now with potential to be a Francis type guy.

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and it wasnt because he was

and it wasnt because he was a great shooter or athlete. got drafted and played because he could play defense,run a team at the point, not kill you with mistakes, knew his role and a good defender. help win you games by not making a bunch of mistakes

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its easy to say at another

its easy to say at another school this or that guy would have done this or that.. but guess what..he wasnt at another score. what has bledsoe shown as far as pg abilities?..hes shown some shooting guard abilities like scoring when defenses are focused on the other main scores. he hasnt shown set up ability or the ability to run a team. im sure you remember the times wall had to sit and he ran the team and how he couldnt get players the ball in scoring position. im pretty sure its easier to score when you have wall cousins and patterson on youre team and other teams have to worry about those guys. lol..better bayless..that still makes me laugh. i dont even think he was top 5 position when he was in highschool or ranked as high as bayless

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high school

You just said ranked in high school.... what was your argument again? Bledsoe was #6 pg coming out of hs.

And Bayless shared PG duties with some guy named McClellan and another named Wise.

Also, easy to score with Cousins, Wall and Patterson.... not too be confused with teammates like Hill and Budinger.

My bad, I am way off.

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exactlynot to be confuse

exactlynot to be confuse with hill who wasnt a 2nd team allamerican like cousins or budinger who wasnt projected as a lotto pick like patterson....and wise and mc who?...maybe im guessing here but i dont think either was as good as wall...and what was arizonias record that year?..lol..are you really comparing the players and the team?...i mean really?

youre right youre bad you are wayyyy off

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HAHAHAHA

Budinger was a preseason projected lotto pick on this site since he was a frosh.

None the less, I guess you missed the point here. Stay bored.

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lets investigate

lets investigate further
arizona 19-15 beat int he first round of the ncaa tournament

hill vs cousins
patterson vs chase
nic vs wall
bledsoe vs bayless

hmmmm i wonder who had the better team and better supporting cast....man it sure is close theres no way i can decide

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ummm preseason pick means

ummm preseason pick means nothing when you dont live up to it. lol..that was yet another good one. you can be preseason ranked number one ever but if you go out and play and dont play liek it then obviously people were wrong

bj mullans-preason best freshman
andre jordan- preseason lotto pick
blake griffen-not preseason player of the year
kevin durant-noyt preseason player of the year

poitn being- preseason means nothing if youre game doesnt make it true

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great investigation

We got one team that didn't live up to it's potential verses one team that is living up to it's potential.

That is all. The UK guys, besides PP and Wall (and cousins late in the first) were not even on the draft radar preseason. Now UK has 5 guys in the lottery possibly. AZ had 1 guy who was preseason all american (Budinger) and all freshman (Bayless) with a future lottery guy in Hill.

If UK would have gel'd like that AZ team did, we wouldn't even be talking about Bledsoe or Orton or possibly Cousins.

So again, what are you arguing?

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?..that makes no sense.. you

?..that makes no sense.. you do know preseaon rankings is just what people think someone will do.. once the players play thats how we know how good they really are. the preseason is just the hype. doesnt mean thats how good they were gonna be just ment what people thought they were gonna be. its nothing more then a guess.. once guys play then we find out that a player isnt as good as people projected them to be

i hear if this and if that.. we dont live in if world we live in reality and in reality those guys just wasnt as good as people projected them to be and thes guys are just as good or better then what they were projected to be

gotta stop getting preseason and potential mixed up with what is reality and proven

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i can say back in the 10th

i can say back in the 10th grade that i am a potential all american ..if i didnt become one does that mean i didnt live up to that or does it mean that guess was wrong?....obviously the guess that chase was a all american was WRONG. IT WASNT " NOT LIVING UP TO P[OTENTIAL" IT WAS JUST PLAIN WRONG:)

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