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things you are realizing this tournament

what are some things that this years tounrament has you realizing?

Some of mine:

-Those mid major teams all across the country are catching up with gaurd play. Speed, breaking the press, hitting the three and just overall level of play from gaurds is imroving all across america. This means two things. One, major conference teams had better have quality bigs if they want to treat these mid majors like their little brother. Two, those out of conference victories over no name mid majors mean more now then I used to think.

-These "experts" who make a living for predicting games and breaking down match ups are stealing money. Do your own homework on teams, and don't let the "experts" sway your own educated opinion. That's assuming you do have an educated opinion as opposed to just an opinion.

-I know the big east is taking a hit already, but i'll go ahead and add that it really was kinda overrated. I don't watch too much college ball outside of the pac 10 during the year, so when i caught up on the big east during the big east tournament, I was far from blown away. It still didn't keep me from buying into the "experts" talk and put both Georgetown and NOtre Dame into my elite 8, but I should have just gone with my gut.

-And as down as the pac 10 was this year, and yes it was easily the worst of the power 6, The Mountain West and Atlantic 10 were not better then the pac.

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Things I'm realizing

--- They actually do play basketball in the Pac-10..lol...Seriously, Cal and Washington (especially) are playing their best at the perfect time.

--- Kansas State is a serious contender. Jacob Pullen is still the most underrated player in the country.

--- Damion James, Sherron Collins, and Avery Bradley have all hurt their draft stocks in some way or another.

--- New Mexico was VASTLY overrated and overseeded.

--- Omar Samhan has busted out of the gates and is very dominant right now. The Gaels go as Samhan does.

--- Iman Shumpert is EASILY the most important player to Georgia Tech. If he plays well, Georgia Tech wins. If he struggles, then they lose. I see him playing well tomorrow against Evan Turner tomorrow, which is a HUGE reason why I think Tech wins.

--- Sherron Collins and Scottie Reynolds decision-making has always been shaky to me, but I never thought it would cost KU and Villanova their season this early.

--- Bruce Pearl is a very underrated coach. Always helps when you have a ridiculously athletic roster too.

--- Northern Iowa matches up well with all the teams they could possibly play against.

--- Kentucky can play any tempo and outplay you. Even without alot of shooters.

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-No matter how hard I try, I

-No matter how hard I try, I will never have a perfect bracket.

-I don't like Doug Gottlieb at all. He's a stuttering hypocrite, and I'm glad I didn't listen to him.

-Outside of the 1's beating the 16's and the 2's beating the 15's (with the latter being a stretch), there's really no such thing as a dumb pick. You never know who's gonna bring their A-game, and who's gonna play like sautéed crap.

-I don't think that it will be long before we regularly see a double-digit seed in the Elite Eight and Final Four.

-For me, it's always been exciting to watch the tourney, but it's 20x more exciting when you're in a money pool.

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"-I don't like Doug Gottlieb

"-I don't like Doug Gottlieb at all. He's a stuttering hypocrite, and I'm glad I didn't listen to him."

That was classic LOL

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Good stuff guys. I agree

Good stuff guys. I agree with everything except the DOug Gottlieb comment. He is my favorite college analyist. He comes off as super humble, doesn't down talk his peers are get in arguments on air. And he has a lot of knowledge. But you are right about him being a hypocrite. He will change his mind in a minute and then act like he was always feeling that way. Dickey V is a classic, but i don't like him too much. I love him calling a game he's great at that, but I don't waste my time giving his opinion much thought.

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I don't know if anyone else

I don't know if anyone else knew this, but Doug Gottlieb was a good player with an interesting past. Recruited to Notre Dame, expelled on credit card fraud, played two years at Ok. State, had one of the highest assist per game career averages ever in D1 basketball and played professionally for a while (he also has one of the worst free throw percentages for a guard that I have ever seen. In his two years at OSU he had a 43.8 ft%. Shaq laughs at that.)

As for the tourney, it only shows me that anything can happen in a single elimination tournament. The fact that every team has a loss (and for the good ones, they usually lost to an inferior team) shows that it can happen. I am suprised by a few of the upsets, and the sheer number, it also tells me that the college pool is a close to balanced as ever.

And to go off on a slight tangent, I think forcing kids to stay in school for longer would kill the parity. Imagine if teams like UNC, Kansas, UCLA, Texas, Wake Forest having the players for 3 or 4 years? NCAA Final Fours would be NBA games, and the smaller schools would be far outclassed by going against 3-4 nba starters.

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Northern Iowa is a legit

Northern Iowa is a legit contender and has the best D ive seen in years

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2 things

both related to Bill Simmons

1. He thought Big East was with out fault - uh V and Gtown out so early?

2. He Thought ACC blew dead Donkeys -

I am guessing Big East doesn't look like the best conference ever now and ACC doesn't look like the worst?

CAVEAT, I really like Simmons he just nut hugs Big East too much and hates on ACC for no good reason.

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1 thing

Guard play is the most important thing in basketball. Whether it's Georgia Tech FINALLY being able to get Lawal and Favors the dog gone ball consistently or Northern Iowa killing from three and dribble penetration, it's clear every year that if you can't shoot or get into the lane from the perimeter along with your bigs rebounding the basketball, you won't get far.

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N. Iowa

They really made Kansas look bad. They shot something like 2 for 12 from beyond the arc in the 2nd half and still won.

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This is one of the reasons

This is one of the reasons why I will never like college more then the NBA.
Reason 1, the ncaa tourney is one shot and that's it. You have to bring your a game that day. If a guy is out with injury, too bad, you might lose. If your team is ice cold from anywhere, once again, too bad you will probably leave the tourney. In any game a double digit seed could advance, even though the team they beat is clearly better then they are. (Kansas, UNI, Georgetown, Ohio) In the end you might think you know who the better team is, but you really never know because of the one shot and thats it.
In the pros its different. Its 7 games instead of one. So the better team almost always advances. I'm saying almost always because there are those surprise teams like the warriors when they played dallas(8 over 1 in 4 games)
Reason #2 also you can never count on your team being good every year. 1 year they might be really good, the next year they might suck because all their good players left for the pros. For example, North Carolina this year and Kentucky next year. (No Wall, Cousins, or Patterson. Only Bledsoe and Orton will be back. Orton is not even that good)
In the pros, teams almost always stay the same. There are those rebuilding years but those are almost far and few between. In college it happens like every year, maybe every 2 or 3 years. A little too often for me at least.
One thing going for the college is the players play for the love of the game. No money so they always play hard. Or at least they should. Money has killed the NBA, but next year should be better with Stern and company cutting down players wages.
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Is It Basketball or a Media Blitz?

Although I agree with LLperez22 and many of the other comments above about parity and the Big East being slightly overrated, the number of commercials are making me sick to my stomach.

There are eight media stoppages of the game at the 16, 12, 8, and 4 minute mark. Those 4 minute media breaks add up to a grand total of 32 minutes of pre-programmed commercials for a 40 minute game.

Each team has 5 Timeouts for a total of ten for the game.

When you add up the media and team timeouts, that comes to 18 timeouts per game or one almost every two minutes. That's insane, it turns a 40 minute game into over a 2 hour saga. It ruins the flow of the contest and it gives teams without a bench approximately 32 minutes to rest their starters.

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One weekend does not change

One weekend does not change the fact that the Pac 10 was consistently getting beat by Big West and MWC schools this season. It does not change that this was the first year the sorry Big Ten beat the ACC in the Big Ten-ACC challenge. It doesn't even change the fact that when Georgetown played Butler, Duke, UW, and Temple the Big East wasn't soft. For four months the Big East earned its rep. The sample size of one game does not change everything that happened over four and a half months. Nobody was heaping Final Four praise on UNI when they lost to DePaul. Stuff happens. In college hoops, if one team gets hot from behind the arc it can be season over for anyone.

I worry we are speeding towards a Kentucky-Duke matchup in the Final Four, with only Jerome Randle and LaceDarius Dunn standing in the way.

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bothteams, the pac 10 had

bothteams, the pac 10 had winning records aginst both the big west and mountain west going 14-7 against those two conferences.

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That conference was losing

That conference was losing guarantee games to Sacramento State, Loyola, Cal-Fullerton and Long Beach State. Don't throw records. Those are guarantee games, the word guarantee is in the title. Playing .600 ball in those games isn't a good thing.

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so what's your point? Are

so what's your point? Are you saying those conferences were better then the pac 10? I already said the pac 10 was the owrst of the big 6. But it was not worse then the mid majors. Only one team in the pac 10 had a losing non conference record. Heck Washington st went 10-3 out of conference and then finished dead last in the pac 10. UCLA was the only team with a losing record out of conference and they were a comletely different team by the time pac 10 play got under way. Washington was challenged far more in the conference tournament then what new mexixo brought to the table.

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