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How Would Jordan's Career Be Viewed If . . . . [i need responses] especially you Quincy lol

I was just thinking. . . . . Jordan retired twice,broke his foot, went to UNC for 3 years && went into baseball in the prime of his career . That's like 9 years that got knocked off his career . Imagine if he could have those years back && was in his prime. . in his prime he was good for 2,400 points, 500 rebounds, 500 assists, 200 steals, 80-100 blocks .

&& YES i KNOW THAT YOU COULD SAY THIS FOR A LOT OF PLAYERS . But take a look .

+21,600 pts
+4,500 rebs
+4,500 assists
+1,800 stls
+520-700 blks
+6-7 mvp's
+1 dpoy
+9 all-stars
+6 championships
+2 all-star mvp's
**Extreme plus--Billionaire !

Jordan's Career Totals

--53,000+ points
--11,000+ rebounds
--10,00+ assists
--4,300+ steals
--1,200-1,500+ blocks
--11-12 mvp's
--2 dpoy's
--23 all-star games
--5 all star mvp's
--12 championships


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Cmon man! That's ridiculous.

Cmon man! That's ridiculous.

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You must be bored.

You must be bored.

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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

lol kinda sorta

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wow, the 1 1/2 years from

wow, the 1 1/2 years from 93-95 was the only time he missed when he was in his prime. So you honestly think if he came out directly out of highschool, those 3 years he spent at unc he would have been in his prime? this is straight ridiculous.

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12 Championships? You outta

12 Championships? You outta yo damn mind, boi?

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12 Championships? You outta

12 Championships? You outta yo damn mind, boi?

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12 Championships? You outta

12 Championships? You outta yo damn mind, boi?

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12 Championships? You outta

12 Championships? You outta yo damn mind, boi?

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Sorry for that... If Kareem

Sorry for that...

If Kareem played till he was 60 his stats would have been

62,000 points
25 championships
and 15 MVP's!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

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what if kareem entered out

what if kareem entered out of juniro high. Played like he was in his prime until he was 50 every year of his career. I bet he would have had 20 titles and 100 thousand points.

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If Jordan didn't retire in

If Jordan didn't retire in 93 you could probably add about 2,400 points 500 rbs 500 points 200 steals and 50 blocks for the 93-94 season and lets add 2000 poins 400 rebounds 300 assists 150 steals and 40 blocks on to his 17 game totals in 94-95, so thats an additional 4,800 points 900 rbs 800 assists 350 steals and 90 blocks and a more realisitic filler for his baseball retirement when he actually was in his prime.

His second retirement his stats had already started to decline as Jordan reached his mid 30's but for arguments sake lets say

1998-99 strike season - 1,300 pts (27 pt average) 250 rbs (5) 250 ast(5) 100 stls (2) and 25 blocks (.5)
99-00, and 00-01: 4,100 pts (25 pt average) 820 rbs (5) 656 ast (4) 246 (1.5) 82 blocks (.5)

Since no one went pro out of high school in the early 80s and Jordan only averaged 13 points his freshman year and 20 his so and jr seasons at UNC im gonna not even entertain the fact he came out of high school.

His career stats would look more like this

42,092 points
8,642 rebounds
7.339 assists
3,210 steals
1,090 blocks

Im pretty sure the Bulls would have won the title in 1994 over Houston and 1999 in the strike season over SA. The 1994-95 Houston team was very good and could have taken the Bulls out, but Jordan realistically could have 9 peated throughout the 90's if he would have played straight through, im sure he would have been an all-star all of his years, and maybe 1 more MVP, Robinson had a beast of a year for his in 1995 and Hakeem was pretty big in 93-94 so there is no guarantee Jordan would have won MVP both of those years, but the NCAA games arent too exciting right now so I just kinda blacked out thats what I ended up typing when I came to.

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Joe, I agree with most of

Joe, I agree with most of what you wrote, aside from the Bulls beating the Rockets in '94. They obviously had the advantage at the 2 and 3, but I think the Kenny Smith, Sam Cassel combo beats Bj and Pax. Maxwell traditionally did pretty well [or as well as you could] against Jordan. Horry would do what he's been known throughout his career to do, even with Pippen on him. Thorpe plays Grant to a standstill and during that 2 year span, Olajuwon was the best player on the planet, maybe whether Jordan had stayed or not. I honestly feel like Olajuwon is the best center in NBA history, with Shaq a close second.

Anyway, the OP got a little silly with this post.

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I honestly believe the Bulls

I honestly believe the Bulls would have won 9 straight titles if he didn't retire the first time. They would have killed those Rocket teams. The league and age was catching up to them though by the time they won their last one against Utah. I am not sure if they would have won a 10th.

That was by far the best defensive team ever. The second 3peat team with Jordan, Pip, Rodman, and Harper.

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MJ probably would've won

MJ probably would've won another MVP not sure if he'd win multiple though.
I don't know about the stats though he'd definately move up even more on the all-time list.

The Bulls weren't good enough in the 80's to beat the Celtics, Pistons and def. would've lost to the Lakers if they had gotten that far.

The Knicks Bulls series in 93 came down to the Charles Smith rebs at the end of the game and Knicks missing a ton of free throws. Also the Suns had the Bulls on the ropes in Game 6 but made the cardinal sin of leaving a 3 pt shooter open on a switch it seemed. Most of the Bulls wins in the Finals against the Suns came down to the wire outside of Game 1.

I think with MJ the Bulls win the title in 94 but not in 95 Hakeem was too great that year and w/Drexler and Horry that team really was clutch and on a great ride in the playoffs. They swept Orlando who had Shaq and Grant in 95. Robinson and Shaq were no match for Hakeem he would've destroyed Longley, Wennington and Perdue.

The late 90's they could've lost to the Jazz in 97 and 98 but MJ bailed them out both times.
Indy took them to 7 games in 98, so they could've beaten the Bulls the following year as well, just too many what if's and you can't win every year.
I think lack of a big time post player and defender at the Center position would've caught up to them.
Not sure how'd they would've matched up against Duncan and Robinson in 99 since Robinson was still very good and Duncan was great. Also ppl forget that Spurs team had great role players and lost only 2 games the whole post season.
By 2000 if MJ was still playing the team would've still changed as guys who signed 1 year deals probably would've left.

I don't see a 9 peat or anything that crazy, 4-peat I could see though.
Winning titles would've gotten old guys like Pippen, Kukoc wanted to get paid anyway.
The players never did get along with the organization guys outside of Phil Jackson anyway.

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I knew if I read this thread

I knew if I read this thread it would have been dumb, and I was right. If Jordan didn't retire for baseball then I would say another title or 2 as well as an MVP award and 2 more all-star games.

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White Shadow did you just say

Hakeem the best Center in history and Shaq a close 2nd?
What about Wilt, Russell, Kareem?
I can see having both as top 5 but I think you forgot a few guys.

Also I don't see Shaq as close to Hakeem becaz he did play w/Penny, Kobe and Wade all when they were great.
Plus Shaq wasn't the defensive player that Hakeem was or all around shooting jump shots etc.
Granted Shaq was a beast inside and didn't need to shoot jumpers but the free throws and diff on D makes me wonder.

Also something has to be said for Shaq gettin swept in the playoff so many times.

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Man, I don't mean to

Man, I don't mean to belittle their acomplishments but I don't consider what happened in the 50's and 60's to be relevant. The facts are that Russel and Chamberlain could not have played in todays game. Russel was a 6'9" string bean with no offensive game and Chamberlain was a guy who was just bigger, stronger and faster than everyone at the time. In todays game that athleticism would be average for a back-up [yes I know he ran track at Kansas. I could care less about a 7+ footer high jumping in the 50's]. Kareem's game would translate, but I there's no way he would've had the same success if his prime was in the early-mid 90's.

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Tonydaboss77 my man...U

Tonydaboss77 my man...U must had been hitting too many cans of that Red Bull...lol..
But u might be right with the theory that he could've won 12 Championships if he hadn't retired twice..

But if u want to talk about Jordan's What ifs..Here are a few......

1.What if had stayed in College until his senior year..would he have been the 4th player selected in the Draft, after Ewing,Tisdale & Benoit Benjamin?

2.Would he have been marketable playing in Seattle?

3.What if those rumors are true that he was secretly suspended for 1 year by the NBA for gambling

4.What if the Bulls hadn't made that trade for Pippen..Would he have won a ring?

5.What if he played in the league today With the hand checking rules.. would he be averaging 50 points a game?

6.What if the Bulls hadn't gone their separate ways in 1998.. How many more rings would they have won?

7.What if Jordan hadn't (retired) would they have won 8 or 9 titles in a row?

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JoeWolf1, moses malone went

JoeWolf1, moses malone went to the nba out of highschool. he was the first ever.

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whiteflash..i agree with u

whiteflash..i agree with u about Russell & Chamberlin...I'm 32 and too young to have seen these guys play..But Russell will most diffently be a backup if he played today..And watching videos of Chamberlin when he played ..I saw a guy that was bigger & stronger than everyone else..Plus his moves were predictable and he was slow...I bet if Theo Ratliffe & Aaron Gray played back in the 50's they'll be in the Hall of Fame right now..

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Honestly man, Russell

Honestly man, Russell wouldn't be able to make an NBA team today. He'd be a small forward and it's pretty obvious his skills wouldn't translate. Chamberlains best shot was a weird reverse finger roll kinda thing after backing his man into the rim. He wouldn't be able do that against todays athletes. He'd be a backup that could give 6 fouls in a close game.

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i see what u r saying about

i see what u r saying about russell and chamberlin but we cant hate on them because of the era they played in. it is what it is and wilt statistically was great and russell won 11 championships. dont belittle the history of basketball. and realistically, if jordan didnt retire in the mid 90s he would have an extra 3000 points, the rebounds and assists and other stats wouldnt really matter. he would have definately been an all star both years too. if he left after his freshman year in college you could add probably atleast another 1500 total points. and if he didnt retire the second time he would probably have been good for atleast 18 a game so another 1800 each year in points. there is no doubt in my mind that without those retirements and 3 years of college he would be in the 40000 career point range and i think that is where guys(barring injury) like lebron and kevin durant will probably end up if they play until close to 40 years old. ex lebron is at about 15000 through about 7 years. probably another 15000 the next seven(he w!ll be in his prime and at the end of that 32 years old) and at minimum 10000 the n1xt six putting him at 40000 points at at age 38.

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ARE YOU NORMAL ?

GOD CANT DO THAT......

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1.What if had stayed in College until his senior year..would he have been the 4th player selected in the Draft, after Ewing,Tisdale & Benoit Benjamin? YES

2.What would he have been marketable playing in Seattle? yes cause if he had stayed at unc for his senior year than he would've likely won npoy again. . . . .. . . . . i dont see too much changing

3.What if those rumors are true that he was secretly suspended for 1 year by the NBA for gambling? giving his reputation as a hard nosed, dominant, a-hole. . . then he MIGHT HAVE taken an Iversonian fall from grace.

4.What if the Bulls hadn't made that trade for Pippen..Would he have won a ring? Only in 97 & 98 .

5.What if he played in the league today With the hand checking rules.. would he be averaging 50 points a game? the most he'd average would be like 48. . . he'd have 3-4 more 32,8,8 seasons though

6.What if the Bulls hadn't gone their separate ways in 1998.. How many more rings would they have won? they woulda won in 99

7.What if Jordan hadn't (retired) would they have won 8 or 9 titles in a row? 9

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wait 12 titles?..he would

wait 12 titles?..he would have still won his first title when he won his first ttitle. he wasnt good enough to beat the celtics or pistons before he won that first title and theres no way in hell he would have been good enough if he cam straight out of hs...lets be real here. he wasnt the same player as a sr in hs that he was as a rookie in the nba. and jordan wouldnt have won rings with out pippen. i understand jordan is the best ever but he needed pippen

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