Brandon Jennings; Too Cocky, Too Soon?
Brandon Jennings has had that cockiness since he was in high school and probably even before that. He brings a swagger that hasn't been seen from a little man since Allen Iverson. You buying this kid's hype? Future All-Star? We know he can score and we know he thinks he can do anything he wants on the court, which he probably can. But his court vision is very very underrated. Next Allen Iverson? Nah.. This guy can light up the scoreboard while getting himself 10-15 assists aswell.. Better A.I.? That's a long shot but I'm going out on the limb here.. I think he'll be a solid 24ppg 8apg player in a couple of years.. Sure steal for the Bucks.
i was hoping big baby davis was going to toss him after being tauted. The bucks better hope he isnt the next iverson.
If I hear swagger one more time I'm gonna go insane. But yea he def needs to tone it down a bit. I mean I don't think he is the headcase that Iverson was off the court at times, but they have a similar attitude on the court, excpect I think Iverson had a hell lot more heart during games.
He obviously needs to work on his shot, which was the main knock on him coming in. I absolutely love this kid though. He is cocky but in a joking kind of way, he doesn't take things too seriously. I agree that his court vision and awareness are off the charts for someone his age. He is a total team player and hasn't complained about anything since day one. All he cares about is winning.
I think he has a great future in the NBA . People are talking about Tyreke, Curry,and Collison, as they should, right now but this kid will be just as good if not better.
I enjoy his swagger.. I am a very cocky player when I'm on the court. And for a little guy I know that you need to believe in yourself because not many others will.. Swagger comes from confidence and if you have confidence in yourself.. You're going somewhere. A.I. had more heart but what beats heart? A team.. And Brandon Jenning's passing ability can make up for it.. Jennings does have heart, you can tell when he plays.. if you've seen him play, you'll realize the love Jennings has for the game.. He genuinely enjoys being out on the court. Young Money is gunna make a name and leave a mark in the NBA.. And when you're one of the top 15 PGs in the league, you have a right to have that swagger
I think Jennings will be a Marbury or Francis type player, a guy who makes his impact early and plays at a high level, but doesn't necessarily have staying power. I can't back this up with anything more than a hunch, but despite his play this season, I don't think Brandon Jennings is going to be in the talk of the best PGs in the NBA in 5 or 6 years.
What? Marbury was one of the top pg's in the league [at least statistically] for damn near 10 years and Francis' career got cut short by injuries. What you've said makes no sense. Also, the way the thread's titled and what the op wrote are contradictory. Anyway I've said from the start and I'll say 'til it's over that I think Jennings will go down as the best player from this draft. His speed, athleticism and feel for the game are off the charts. He needs to add about 10lbs of muscle to help with his consistency and finishing ability [not only around the rim but on his jumper], but this kid's a beast. What he has cannot be taught, and barring injury I predict an HOF career.
Also.. That Bucks team, i think they can win their 1st round series in the playoffs and if the 2nd round team doesn't take them serious, they can win a 2nd round series as well.. and why? Brandon Jennings distributes the ball well enough that it makes the other players confident.. It's not always about the assists, it's about getting guys the ball where they prefer it.
I think Jennings will make an impact for a long while to come, in 4 or 5 years, we're going to be talking about Curry, Jennings, Westbrook, Paul, Williams, Rose, Rondo, Wall, and maybe Lawson.. But 10 years from now, it's going to be Curry, Evans, Westbrook, Rose, and Jennings and any other good up-coming prospects. I don't think Rondo is going to be good once Allen, Garnett, and Pierce call it quits. Not taking anything away but he's a very good passer and a good driver.. But when you play with good players, they bring out the best in you, especially veterans. I'd like to see what he'll look like once the big G.A.P. leaves. (Garnett, Allen, Pierce)
I hear what you are saying D3WadeIsBetta, but to me Jennings appears to be a phenom with a lot of holes in his game, and I know a rookie point guard is expected to have such growing pains, but a sup 40% shooting percentage ( 37% in fact ) paired with a guy who is a top option on his team usually means although those tendancies are improved with experience, are never really fixed. He seems to me as a bit of a "chucker" while Lawson, Curry and Collison are more polished as far as this rookie class goes and have less to improve on. I'm not saying Jennings doesn't have the potential to be a top 5 PG, but to me I feel he will be a 2nd teir PG who always shoots a low percentage.
What I've said makes no sense? He is a chucker who shoots 37% I likened him to Marbury and Francis because despite their early rises to fame statistically they didn't stand the test of time, despite Marbury's 16,000 career points he will never be talked about as one of the best, he is still a 43% shooter on his career and never play any significant post season action aside from limited minutes on Boston's bench. It is possible for a guy to drop great stats and not be one of the greats. Jennings talent kept Milwakee in the mix in the early season, but it has been Boguts play and the acquisition of John Salmons to replace Michael Redd that has propelled the Bucks into their current state. I can see you are very high on him, and I dont dispute he has talent, but i don't see a HOF career, nor a top 5 PG placing year in and year out for Jennings quite yet.
Dude, Marbury did statistically stand the test of time and as I already said Francis' career was cut short by injuries. Also, Allen Iverson's career fg% is just over 42%, but you don't seem to question that. Jennings is not a chucker. A chucker is someone who takes bad shots. He's taking the same shots he was at the begining of the season, he's just missing them. That consistency will come with added strength and maturity. He's 19 years old for crying out loud. Also, the guy drives a Ford Escape and lives in relatively humble digs. I think it's safe to say he's wise beyond his years and his "cockiness" is relegated to the court. Also, do you not think Boguts career year has anything to do with the arrival of Jennings? You have to look at the whole picture man.
I said nothing about Jennings' maturity as a person, nor how he lives his life so I have no idea why what car he drives, nor his digs have anything to do with this arguement with me. I dont care if he is cocky, plenty of players I like are cocky and I don't dislike Jennings. I don't see how me questioning Brandon Jennings as a Hall of Fame and a top 5 point guard is so hard to imagine for you. Not once did I say he wasn't talented not did I say he didn't have potential, but I'm not buying his game as a top 5 point guard 65 games into his career. As far as Marbury standing the test of time...maybe in the past 15 or 20 years, but not an All-Time great. That isn't a knock!!! being one of the best in your era is good, but a HOF career is truly elite and Jennings, in my opinion isn't there, and I dont think he will be. go ahead and drop me a point for that and give yourself one
The comments about his car and home were for those who questioned his maturity and ego. Someone who's full of themself and has that kind of loot does not drive a Ford Escape, or a Ford anything for that matter. Anyway, Marbury's stats have stood the test of time. He's a career 19 and 7 guy. How many people in league history have numbers like that? If he wasn't a headcase who pissed just about everyone he ever met off he would be a HOF'er. Jennings is damn near a top 5 pg right now. If he progresses the way it appears he will he'll be THE top pg in the league in a few years. Of course he's not an HOF'er right now. But, I believe he will be, and I also bet that he'll be an All-Star by his 3rd year. I don't need to take points away or give myself points man. This is the internet.
The only other guy in NBA history to average 20 ppg and 8 apg for his career was Oscar Robertson. To look in hindsight and think that Marbury could have easily been in the same company as "The Big O" is just........ crazy. Jennings just needs to take the ball to the hoop more often, although 10 lbs. of muscle would help him. Once he starts doing that, then he'll be a top-3 point guard. The combination of game management skills and athleticism that he possesses at his age is rare.
OJ, he frustrates the piss outta me by settling for jumpers. He took a monster foul during the summer league and seems to be less aggressive since. I might be looking for something that isn't there with that, but with his speed, handle, leaping ability and creativity there's no reason he shouldn't be averaging 8-ish ft's a game. He needs to add some muscle to help with the contact and stay "fresher" throughout the saeson, but he's still too jumpshot happy. I've only seen one dunk from him all year, and this is a kid who used to go eastbay in warm-ups.
Thats my point though, there is a difference between a stat stuffer and an All-time great. Every guy who blasts into the league and makes an impact as a rookie doesn't make the hall of fame. I don't care if Marbury has 19 and 7 on his career, he is not one of the best. You have a hunch he will be a great, I have a hunch he won't based on the same information, I can see you know your stuff, and I hope you can see I do too, its just a difference of opinion. Time is gonna tell this one.
Totally man. I'm not trying to be a dick, so I hope it doesn't come across like that. I enjoy talking/arguing ball with people who know the game and don't take it personally if they don't agree with what I'm saying. I'm sure I'm wrong more than I care to admit, I just see a ton of potential in this kid.
Yeah, I agree with you, JoeWolf1. This is all just a matter of opinion. There's no need to really be offended or anything.
A lot of guys have potential but you don't see Curry and Evans with attitude like that.
Better have game like Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Nash, Billups or some other great Pg's before u get too cocky.
I don't see it as cockiness as I see it as swagger.. The kid's been on top of the world since high school.. I mean he was the #1 Sophomore in high school.. #1 junior and #1 senior when he played at OAK HILL. Oak Hill is the high school basketball capital of the world! He cheated the system by going to Europe for a year then coming back when most people thought it wouldn't work. Nobody believed in this kid growing up.. He was always too small, too weak.. that's where he gets that nastiness from. Thats where he gets the swagger from, because everything he has done has got him to the position where he wanted to be in the first place.. An NBA team with a chance to make the playoffs... I wouldn't say a chance, let me rephrase that An NBA team that WILL make the playoffs and is going to be a tough out and can probably win their first series.
i don't know i'm looking at Curry and Collison for this season but for the future, there is only Evans and Griffin who probably will be better..i don't see those two pg's getting much better they are already 21-22yrs old with as mature game as some veterans..as for Jennings he is really really good shooter he just has to grow as a player and to learn when to shoot when to try to beat defender after dribble ect..and i'm pretty sure sooner or later he will be all-star and one of those "future pgs"...
where are those fans who said he was allstar already and going to be superstar better then Rose Wall..i'm not saying they were correct but still you can't change your opinion so drastically.
Jennings is too mature and hard working as a b ball player to be another Marbury plus in his rookie year he has made Milwaukee relevant and he is just getting started. He will be working on his game this summer and working on his shot. He managed to deal with the drama of overseas. You have to include what you do outside of basketball to some degree because that affects who you are as a player on the court. What does Kobe do outside of the NBA is working on his condition and game. Jennings will be like that to some degree. Jennings will study film. Cockiness on the basketball court for the lil guys is almost expected. Most jock are cocky whether you see it or not. To be in the NBA you have to have a lot of confidence to make it and be the best when other feel you will fail and a lot of time that borders on cockiness when you are out there but he is a team player and he and the Buck will continue to get better.
I don't see 24 and 8 at all, thats 50% more scoring. I can see 18.5 and 8 being more realistic.
24 ppg with that many assists anyone outside of Jordan, Magic, Lebron and Oscar done that?
He's had a very good rookie year lets not get carried away.