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7:03 Today i hope hes not

7:03 Today
i hope hes not serious because all warrick adds to a team is a couple highlight dunks a night

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Milwaukees Best I gave u a

Milwaukees Best I gave u a point bcuz u had a well thought out response

I'm a hakim warrick fan though and I wanted to see him play the SFalongside a legitimate PF and Center

he should have signed with Philadelphia, Cleveland, or Boston just my opinion

he's a typical pure scorer, mid-range, dunks and transition points

I want to see him on a team that can start him at small forward and make opponents pay for switching

Bulls are not that team they are undersized as well

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hes not a sf though. he has

hes not a sf though. he has alil bit of handles and amid range but hes not a sf thats why teams dont play him there. and he cant start over any sf i can think of. warrick is a good off the bench player/part time starter. hes not good enough to cause a major nor minor mismatch

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Skiles said Warrick was going to play at the 3 slot which means to additional bigs and Warrick.

The Bucks clearly didnt have the depth to start Warrick at the three

the Bucks will not succeed in the playoffs until they get more talent at the PF spot, or either wing position

just my opinion anything is possible but I dont expect to see it

and

Salmons for Warrick was a lateral move at best they are still undersized

and when it comes to the draft they could draft the next Brandon Jennnings

or they could just as easily draft the next Joe Alexander/the next Yi Jianlian/Jodie Meeks

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so if skiles said bogut

so if skiles said bogut wouldplay the pg you would believe that too?..warrick isnt a 3. itspretty simple by watching himplay to know that

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Warrick has the ideal body

Warrick has the ideal body for nba small forward but he doesnt have nearly enough quickness or range to be one. He did make a lot of open 12-15 foot jumpers when he was on the bucks but hes not someone whos gonna create his own shot and score over guys every night. SF is the most elite position in the nba and takes a lot of talent to be one in the nba.
He would be a perfect fit for a team like golden state: Long and athletic on the break but not a defensive presence at all.

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I dont know how many people

I dont know how many people expect the bucks to do much in the postseason since theyre going to be playing atl or bos most likely. Their rotation is one of the youngest in the league and after redds and gadzurics combined $25mil comes off the books after next year theyll have plenty of money to fill in a scorer on the wing and a banger down low.

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so if skiles said bogut

so if skiles said bogut wouldplay the pg you would believe that too?..warrick isnt a 3. itspretty simple by watching himplay to know that

are you calling skiles a liar? lol

"hes not a sf though. he has alil bit of handles and amid range but hes not a sf thats why teams dont play him there"

size wise he's the same height as Richard Jefferson and same weight same speed I would guess

plus/minus wise I think he can be good it all depends on his ability to draw fouls

he's a mini-version of stoudemire

as for the "handles" and mid range thing

his range wont matter if he's posting up smaller players he has more mismatch potential than you realize

think Amare Stoudemire with an up and under

he's the same size as richard jefferson but skinnier and playing the post lol
he's the definition of tweener

people said that James Worthy couldnt play small forward

my point is there is more than one way to play small forward

Small forwards are primarily responsible for scoring points and also often as secondary or tertiary rebounders behind the power forwards and centers,
although a few who play as point forwards have considerable passing responsibilities. Many small forwards in professional basketball, however, are prolific scorers.

The styles with which small forwards amass their points vary widely, as some players at the position like the Raptors' Hedo Turkoglu and the Hornets' Peja Stojaković
are very accurate straight up shooters,

while others like the Los Angeles Lakers' Ron Artest prefer to "bang inside",

initiate and/or not shy away from physical contact with opposing players, while others are primarily slashers such as Carmelo Anthony and LeBron James.

One common thread between all kinds of small forwards is an ability to "get to the line", that is have opposing players called for committing shooting fouls against them, as fouls are frequently called on the defense when offensive players "take the ball hard" to the basket, that is, aggressively attempt post-up plays, lay-ups, or slam dunks.

Therefore, accurate foul shooting is an imperative skill for small forwards, many of whom record a large portion of their points from the foul line.

via wikipedia

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And Worthy was one of the

And Worthy was one of the first to develop the big, small forward position, one now popularized by the likes of Kevin Garnett, the big man who can run the floor and finish gracefully and who is a matchup nightmare at his size. Though Worthy often had to play power forward early in his career, he eventually would become the lane running small forward, a quick big man who had the speed to stay with the classic small forward of his day, yet could easily post him up. Worthy's postup moves were classic and as the years progressed, he improved his outside shot and range, though he always was among the leaders in shooting because of his inside play and scoring on the fast break.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=smith_sam&id=1609139

When the 2001-02 season started, not much had changed with the T-Wolves. Because of an illegal deal struck the prior year by team owner Glen Taylor, Minnesota had been stripped of four first-round draft choices. Saunders tried to shake things up by moving Kevin to small forward, Smith to power forward and Szczerbiak to off-guard. Brandon, slowed by an assortment of injuries, would share duties at the point with Billups, a former lottery pick still trying to find his way in the NBA.

The new lineup paid dividends, aand Minnesota broke from the gate at 18-8. Kevin looked great. In the season opener against Milwaukee, he went for 25 points and 21 rebounds. In November, he torched the Los Angeles Clippers for 30 points and 19 rebounds. Against the Sacramento Kings in early December, he pulled down a franchise-record 25 boards and nailed a pair of treys in the final 30 seconds to send the contest into OT. Two days later, he victimized the Clippers again, hitting a game-winner at the buzzer. In back-to-back games versus Houston and Indiana, he swatted away six and seven shots.

Warrick is a miniature version of Stoudemire
said a low post offensive player that will draw fouls at a high rate

his defense can improve but so can

Hedo Turkoglu's
Points Rebounds Assists FG%
12.3 4.5 4.2 41

Peja Stojacovic
PPG: 12.6; RPG: 3.70; APG: 1.5; EFF: + 10.95

Warrick at SF would create switching, allowing other teammates to capitalize,
draws double teams, the easiest way to generate offense is to create a double team

if Warrick ever plays SF i dont see how his defense can be worse than those guys

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just because he has the size

just because he has the size of a sf doesnt make him a small foward okee. thats common sense. barkley was 6'5 butn he couldnt play sg. shaun livingston is 6'7 but he cant play pf. chuck hayes is 6'6 but he cant play sf. you need to get over youre facination with size. warrick is not a sf no matter how much you want him to be. coahes say things all the time that they dont end up doing. you really think a offense is gonna clear out for warrick?..are you sure you have ever played basketball?..how many teams run a bunch of clear outs for a 4th option on a team who has average post moves?. you need to learn to seperate what you want to happen from reality. you bring up all thse stats and writings about what something is or shoul dbe but you ignore what actually is or watch the game. you put all this long evidence about something but all it does it makes it really look liek you dont watch basketball and dont know what youre talkign about

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Riley Starts James Worthy at the Two-Guard

1984 NBA Finals

GAME 1

Larry v. Magic: Game-by-Game Summary

Larry v. Magic: Game-by-Game Media Coverage

In an effort to counter the Celtics' huge front line, the Lakers' Pat Riley countered with a backcourt of Magic Johnson and the 6-9 James Worthy against the Celtics' starting backcourt of Gerald Henderson, 6-2, and Dennis Johnson, 6-4.

Surprise in Johnson's Eyes

"I would have to say that threw them off a little," Michael Cooper said. "I saw the surprise in D. J.'s eyes when he saw James on him."

K. C. Jones, the Celtic coach, has to find a way when the series resume in Boston on Thursday night of preventing the Lakers from dictating the defensive alignments the way they did Sunday.

Worthy, normally the reserve small forward, did not learn until Saturday night at a team meeting that he would be making his second straight playoff start.

"I'm goal-oriented and I've learned to let destiny takes its course," said Worthy, who scored 20 points in the Lakers' 115-109 victory. "I got a little taste of playing defensively in the backcourt in the Kansas City and Dallas playoff series against Eddie Johnson and Rolando Blackman. I was there to help out defensively. I can see how Magic and I can present some matchup problems for other teams."

There is no mold that fits the 23- year-old Worthy, who left the University of North Carolina after his junior year to become the first pick in the 1982 draft and sign a seven-year contract with the Lakers worth a reported $3.5 million.

Size, Speed and Ability

At 219 pounds, he has the size of a power forward, the speed of a small forward on the fast break and the sledge-hammer dunking ability of a center.

Probably one of Worthy's biggest assets is his strength. Once he gets position, he has an array of quick moves, both right- and left-handed.

"There are so many ways James helps out and can hurt opposing teams," said Jamaal Wilkes, the Laker forward. "The combination of his speed and quickness makes him virtually impossible to stop when he goes one-on-one. He gets inside like a power forward, moves like a small forward and can handle the ball as though he was a third guard. He's going to be a force in this league. You can tell by the way opposing teams are starting to double-team him as often as they do Kareem Abdul-Jabbar." While Worthy said after the Sunday game that "the only statistic I'm interested in is winning as many championships as I can," in the Celtic dressing room, Dennis Johnson said, "we're going to have to find a way to cope with their matchups."
Labels: 1983-84 Boston Celtics, Celtics and Lakers, James Worthy, Larry and Magic, Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, Pat Riley

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Hak is a power 3 maybe you

Hak is a power 3 maybe you like finesse 3s but I dont I say clear out and let big man go to work

he can pass over double teams, he can go to work in the post and finish with 100% dunks shots

if you dont think teams can run a clear out for Hakim Warrick, can they do it for Gerald Wallace?

clear out for Peja Stojacovic, Richard Jefferson?

sure but how many points are those guys averaging and they are starting Hakim Warrick is officially underrated.

Defense: in a bigger line up he can use his length to funnel players toward help defenders or alter the shot with his length

when you say that Warrick is not a prime time mismatch as a power 3

it makes me think that you stereotype all athletic players as dumb and dont know how to utilize their gifts

I just wnt to see good basketball, bcuz I only watch elite players and when I see mismatch potential

I try to acknowledge it, it seems you disregard it somewhat biasly

you say you cant think of one team (out of 30) that Hakim could start 4 and I believe you at first bcuz I dont have league pass but then I do the research and there are teams that have no size at the 3 spot

NJN. NOH

or production

SAS

I think ur obssessed with downplaying athleticism,

u like shorter finesse players and under the rim, I like big power players that bang inside or over you. But please dont discredit my basketball knowledge bcuz u have nothing to go off of.

Hakim Warrick is a mismatch

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