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the fact that he couldnt

the fact that he couldnt keep a esy 2.0 is prob gonna hurt him even more. teams will see that hes either lazy or dumb and prob think "this guy cant even get a c taking cooking classes so how can we expect him to learn plays"

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He defends and is a good

He defends and is a good enough scorer to play in the NBA. He projects as a guy that score score a decent amount and provide solid defense and passing ability. He can be a Courtney Lee type player.

Just admit you've never seen him play. Because he's an impressive player.

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i watch all of maryland

i watch all of maryland games so of course ive seen him play. also watched him against ga tech. hes so impressive that hes projected as a second rounder. and that was before they teams found out how dumb he is

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His outside shot has

His outside shot has improved this season.

He is 5th in the ACC in scoring.

Last season he was ranked 4th nationally in scoring at of all Freshman.

Landesberg will either be on the 1st or 2nd All-ACC team. 

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how exactly does a guy flunk

how exactly does a guy flunk in his soph year in college?..all the classes are basically hs classes and electives. you dont even take youre core classes untill youre jr year. yeah he should go to the draft. keeping a 2.0 taking basic math and gymmight be too hard for him

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He had 22 points, 6

He had 22 points, 6 rebounds, & 5 assists against Georgia Tech

Virginia won that game 

Landesberg didn't play last game against Maryland.

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last year..and howmuch did

last year..and howmuch did his scoring jump exactly with all those improvements?..will he make first or second team?..you may be right..lest see

vasquez
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schyer
shingler
gani
delany
the kid from wake
the big man for clemson

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umm they play maryland twice

umm they play maryland twice

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Who cares how he flunked

Who cares how he flunked out....We're not his parents...Quit trying to change the subject. `

I don't think you have seen him play. I just don't believe how everyone else thinks he's impressive except you. He's in discussion for declaring for the draft after his Sophomore year, so he's definitely impressive in some way or another.

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I know they played Maryland
I know they played Maryland twice....that is why I said last game
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He only played them

He only played them once.....They played yesterday vs. Maryland but he was suspended

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nba teams care. if a player

nba teams care. if a player isnt a lotto talent then teams question a guy for flunking out. why you think the nba and nfl gives test that has to deal with iq? since when does everyone mean 2 people?..and obviously everyone that matters doesnt think hes so impressive since they dont project him as a first rounder. and that does include the people who arent scouts who watch his game and put up profiles about him...what does this site have him as?..draftexpress has him as a second rounder in NEXT years draft. so how do you figure EVERYONE is so impressed by him? youre very impressed and a guy who think tyrus thomas is better then he i, is very impressed by him. i watch all my hometown area teams play at least 2 games. townon,va,gtown,hampton,va tech,maryland, and a couple of d2 schools that some of my forer aau peopels assist coach at

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i know he only played them

i know he only played them once..i said they play them twice because he mentioned him not playign against maryland..not sure why he said that when not playign against a team has nothing to do with what we are talking about. i said i seen him play against maryland then he said the guy didnt play against maryland last game. see how one thing has nothing to do with what i said

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so who is this EVERYONE ELSE

so who is this EVERYONE ELSE you speak of that are so impressed by him? every where i look and read it says second round. a couple even said second round in the 2011 draft. and after watching him i completely agree

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Once again

I don't think you have seen him play. I just don't believe how everyone else thinks he's impressive except you. He's in discussion for declaring for the draft after his Sophomore year, so he's definitely impressive in some way or another.

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Quincey- you don't know what

Quincey- you don't know what real scouts are projecting him as.  Who cares about these mock drafts... that aren't very accurate.  We have to wait & see what happens.  

Landesberg has skills & if you have ever watched him play you would know that. 

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who is this everyone you

who is this everyone you speak of?...hes impressive enough for the second round..ive admitted that many times. so because i dont think hes a first rounder like you then i must not have watched hm play..lol im guessing other web sites with mock drafts havnt seen him play either. ill even check other people on here mock draft and see where they have them and even youre mock draft if you had one in the past

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going frommy brothers old

going frommy brothers old coach who used to be a nba scout hes projected as a second rounder. since this is comign from me i wouldnt expect ya'll to believe this. ill check hoopsworld who constantly talk to nba scouts and whos writiers work with the nba and works out nba players

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you know what i find funny

you know what i find funny gators...you have said many times about how scouts project this or that player but when its about a player you like you say i dont know where scouts project him...so tell me what source did you use when you said scouts project this or that player?

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I don't know any real

I don't know any real scouts.  

Yes, I've said mock drafts have a player projected at a certain spot but that doesn't mean anything to me.  I've never said mock drafts matter or they are accurate. 

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im still looking for the

im still looking for the everyone you were talking bout..checking other sites for regular people who think hes first round impressive. shouldnt be hard since everyone else thinks he is.

http://thehoopsjunkie.com/- not that this guy matters but this is one guys opinion on first and second team all acc

http://www.nbadraft.net/2010mock_draft-this sites mock draft
http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2010/-draftexpress mock draft
http://thehoopdoctors.com/online2/2010/02/2010-mock-draft-version-4-0/
http://www.mynbadraft.com/2010-NBA-Mock-Draft
http://espn.go.com/nba/draft
http://hoopshype.com/draft.htm

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ok so why is it all o a

ok so why is it all o a sudden"who cares about these mock drafts" but in the past when you were trying to prove a point about a player you would say "this guy is projected here or there"? is like you used it for youre benifit but when it doesnt benifit you you disclaimed it.

and iggy how many times have i ever not watched a player and then talk about them? every singleplayer i havent seen i say i havent seen. did it with white side,paul george,the kid out of byu, the freshman out of florida, when some guy made a mid major list. just because i dont agree withyou doesntmean i havnt seen a player play

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fromwhat i see these are the

fromwhat i see these are the sg who would go ahead of him

willie warren
xavier henry
klay thompson
james anderson
jeff taylor
terrico wright
iman shumpert
manny harris

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There is a difference

There is a difference between what you said. You said he was unimpressive. You said nothing about being 1st-round impressive.

On DraftExpress, he's a 2nd round, 1st pick projection. You don't think he can go ahead of someone and be a 1st rounder?

I tink you'd have to wait until they figure out who declares to find sites with a more accurate projection for where he'll land. Some of those sites have guys like Elias Harris, Eric Bledsoe, etc going ahead of him when they aren't likely to declare. And with him projected to be an early 2nd rounder, that will only benefit him if guys that are 1st rounders don't declare.

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really?..did i really have

really?..did i really have to say that?..i figured it was common sense if i think hes a second rounder. no one who gets drafted isnt impressive. i thought it waspretty obvious that i was talking about first round when i said over and over that he was a secondrounder. my bad next time i well explain it alot further so you can se what im talking about. and thats oneway tolook at. another is the guys who declare who werent projected todelare who are first round talent.. i still havent found the everyones that you were talking about. not sure where that came fromsince it has only really been us three talking about him

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I know you have admitted it

I know you have admitted it other times, but I don't think you've watched him play. He's the only good person on Virginia's entire team and he'd stick out like a sore thumb if you'd watched. He has every time I've seen him play, and that's why I think he can be a 1st rounder. Other sites wouldn't doubt that either, he's like right on the cusp on some of the sites you listed.

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He was a 1st rounder earlier

He was a 1st rounder earlier in the season on Hoopshype. But he's not now.

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i never said he was bad just

i never said he was bad just said he wasnt that impressive. he wasnt first round impressive. he was x henry,james anderson, klay thompson impressive. imjust not overly impressed when a guy puts up 17 a game on a bad team because if you are a 2nd round player then that really isnt hard to do. and i obviously think he has talent because i say hes a second rounder but he also has alot of flaws. and i see the post about his 22 point game but what about his single diget games?...and i dont think he will be 1st or second team all acc. iliked him much more as a freshman becuse i thought he would not only be alot better this year but also make his team better. no matter how bad youre team is scouts expect you to make them better. if a guy is a big time scorer on a bad team in college then teams know that he can be a role player at least scoring wise in the nba. if they arent then theres no given that the guy can even be a good role player in the nba. everything is based on how good you make youre team or teammates. why you think monta ellis or kevin martin dont get more respect? or the big money like other guys who score as much. why dont you think guys dont get respect untill they start winning. 17ppg just doesnt cut it when you are on a bad team to be a first rounder just off of that. there have been plenty of guys who were on teams worst then va who put up better numbers so how come he cant?..my answer is in my question. because he cant. he didnt make that freshman to soph jump like other first rounders have. yeah he shot better but he still only score a point or less more a game

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yeah earlier.. hell he was

yeah earlier.. hell he was projected as a first rounder by me before the season start. buit asthe season progressed people saw how he couldnt lead his teamand how he didntmake that frshman to soph jump like so many other first rounders. happens to many players. people think they are better then they are then as the season progresses people findout they the player isnt as good as they thought

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I'm not talking about before

I'm not talking about before the season started. I mean, like before the last mock they made was released.

I think he can be a 1st rounder this year. He can be a very similar player to Courtney Lee. A good slasher and spot up shooter with a good mid-range game and provides solid D. Once again, if a scout watches tape or any game footage of him, they will see that it would take a miracle to make Virginia a tourny team. Or even a good team. For a projected role player, he had done an admirable job of being a good player on a team full of scrubs. He's not the type of player that can make a bad team good all by himself.
I don't think there are very many players that can make this Virginia team good right now in the college game if they were the only truly good player.

"and i see the post about his 22 point game but what about his single diget games?"

He only had 2 games where he didn't score double figures man.

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hence why i said games...the

hence why i said games...the s indicates 2 or more. and it was 2 games correct? its all fine that you think he will go this high or be as good as this or that player but in reality hes not projected as the next lee or a first rounder. maybe he will be one day but right now and in the near future he isnt. too many other players and at least 5 other sg would get picked before him. and i didnt even mention if elliot williams declares or the kid out of tenn..hopson
right now he wouldnt go before

xavier
terrico
james anderson
avery bradley
manny harris
klay thompson

and thats just sg whowould go ahead of him. not even counting the pg,sf,pf,centers out there or the eruo guys

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Virginia was a little better

Virginia was a little better this year than they were last year just like Landesberg was a little better this year than he was last year.

Plus Virginia has a new coach this season.  They now play a completely different style than they did last year.  You remember how Washington St. played the last couple seasons? Slow grinding style offense...  Virginia only averages 66 points per game.  That is last in the ACC.  17 points per game in that offense is impressive.

Anyways if he declares I think he will likely be a 1st round pick.  We shall see.  

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2 games of not getting

2 games of not getting double digits is no big deal. Not even worth mentioning.

I could easily see him going ahead of Klay Thompson, who won't even declare this year. His team also sucks and you said yourself NBA scouts don't like that.

Manny Harris provides all of the same things Landesburg does, while being less efficient and a worse defender and shooter. And also playing on a bad team.

Scotty Hopson is very unlikely to declare for the draft this season, and so is Avery Bradley.

That leaves Xavier Henry, Anderson, and maybe Terrico White, who is probably 50/50 on declaring. They are the only 3 SG's that are even remotely likely to declare this year and go ahead of him.

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the guys just didnt make

the guys just didnt make that next step as a soph liek other first rounders do from there freshmen to soph year. ive been asking and i cant find one person who will commit to saying hes a first rounder. and not one person even comes close to syaing they would take him over the guys who i listed. even locking on the mock drafts i cant see who he would go over in the first round when looking at the names and looking at what the teams need as a starter or a back

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LOL who have you been

LOL who have you been asking? Your friends?

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lets

lets see
atlanta
memphis
nets
washington
minny
boston

these are the teams with the last 6 picks int he first round

i just dont see any of those guys picking him over manny harris,kylay thompson, terrico white, or elliot williams. chances are they will all be avalible when those teams pick

other players who prob will be avalible...domonic jones, vasquez, d.butler,

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no ive been going on other

no ive been going on other chat rooms and asked one of the writers for hoopsworld.com who works at img academies who also works out nba players during the summer and talks to a bunc of different scouts in the nba

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i just cant find the

i just cant find the everyones that agree with you. its good that you have stuck to youre opinions though because thats all that should matter to you:)

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I think Landesburg could be

I think Landesburg could be picked over most of the guys you listed in the post I already talked about. The only guys I know he won't be picked above are James Anderson, Terrico White if he declares, Dominique Jones and Xavier Henry. The rest of those guys are either worse than he is, or aren't likely to declare this season

Did you just put a smiley face at the end of what you said?? Woah.

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thats cool..as long as you

thats cool..as long as you THINK hes better then those players then thats all that matters. most peopel dont though. just stating what the masses think

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another draft site suggested

another draft site suggested this

"Sylven Landesberg can get an Israeli passport I believe, since his dad is Jewish. May be smart to spend next year in Europe, & then declare"

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wow?..thats a very very good

wow?..thats a very very good thing to have. having a parent that's from europe. you will always have a job overseas as long as you can play because you dont count against the limit of american players a team can have

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im pretty sure he has the

im pretty sure he has the rest of the semester to pick his grades up....remember these are midterms

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thats what i was saying

thats what i was saying earlier. they think its such a given that hes gone even though he's only just a sophmore

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