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Sofoklis Schortsanitis-the euro shaq how is he doing so far this season

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Sofoklis Schortsanitis-the euro shaq how is he doing so far this season

Sofoklis Schortsanitis- in euro leauge his avg 6pts 2reb and 0.3blks
greece he's putting up 8.9pts 3reb 0.5blks

not to bad for a very tought leauge. not the dominating big man that some fans and clipper fans think he is either but hes not that bad while being in shape for maybe the first time in his career


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I dont know about not being

I dont know about not being a dominant big. I'd disagree with that. You can look at his numbers and say, well he's not averaging over 15 points or over 8 rebounds. Thats true. From a statistical standpoint he doesnt look overwhelming, but this is due to the fact that he doesnt play a great load of minutes and he doesnt play for long stretches because he's not in the shape to play a whole game. When you see him play you see a guy who, against euro bigs, can push almost anyone under the rim and dunk on them. For his size, he's really athletic and can put up points quickly when he gets touches. When he has the ball in the post going against european big men, i'd call him dominant because it seems like he can score almost at will

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I dont know about not being

I dont know about not being a dominant big. I'd disagree with that. You can look at his numbers and say, well he's not averaging over 15 points or over 8 rebounds. Thats true. From a statistical standpoint he doesnt look overwhelming, but this is due to the fact that he doesnt play a great load of minutes and he doesnt play for long stretches because he's not in the shape to play a whole game. When you see him play you see a guy who, against euro bigs, can push almost anyone under the rim and dunk on them. For his size, he's really athletic and can put up points quickly when he gets touches. When he has the ball in the post going against european big men, i'd call him dominant because it seems like he can score almost at will

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i dont ever see him being

i dont ever see him being dominate. he will never be in great shape thats pretty much a fact by now. some guys just never get to that point. he doesnt play alot of minutes because of it. pushing people around doesnt mean you can dominate someone. you can push a great shot blocker around all you want but he can still block youre shot. hes not even the best big man on his team. the man cant score at will. people can say that till they are blue in the face but if you dont produce then it can never be proven true. we can say a player like shannon brown can score better then any player int he wordl but if he doesnt do it reguardless of th reasons then it can be true unless proven. another thing is his defense isnt that good.. he may be able to push peopel around but he cant stop anyone and fouls way too much some of which has to do with him not being in shape but the rest is because he cant seem to move his feet to well on defense and has a low defensive basketball iq

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he could put up great

he could put up great numbers there if he could get his stamina up..but its not likely this will happen

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yeah..europe is full of

yeah..europe is full of players who could possible put up good numbers if they were taller,faster,strnger,smarter...actually itspretty much the same in the nba as well. if i was 6'10 id probably be in the nba. dont you wish if's could translate to reality more often

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Sounds like Dexter Pittman...

Sounds like Dexter Pittman...

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mmmmm that not a bad

mmmmm that not a bad comparision.. baby shaq is bigger though.. not as explosive either and has a better post game then dexter but its pretty close

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He played 2 pre-season

He played 2 pre-season games, that would seem to help gauge his NBA productivity, I'm glad you brought this back quincey, there were tons of guys on this summer who thought a guy who was drafted in 2002, struggled with weight issues, and 8 years later hasn't made his way into the NBA was some how going to take the NBA by storm and no one could handle him 1 on 1.

Oct 12 vs Cleveland: 21 min 2-7 fg 0-0 ft 5 tbs 5 TOs 5 fouls 4 points
Oct 9 vs Sac: 19 min 5-10 fg 6-6 ft 2 rbs 2 TOs 5 fouls 16 points

against NBA competition in the preseason he played very average against NBA teams where their best players were not getting big minutes. He can be a post player off the bench for someone, but nothing more in my opinion, Its not a Ricky Rubio situation with big Sofo, he's just not that good.

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so why won't he ever be in

so why won't he ever be in great shape? or even in shape period

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You Americans are

You Americans are soooooooooooo funny. Your knowledge about the game in Europe is beyond pathetic yet you all talk like you are such experts on it. Sofo is totally dominant and he will be in the NBA next season as he has already said numerous times.

The reason he does not play that many minutes is because Olympiacos has a bunch of big men that are great. And yes any of them could easily play in the NBA. Bourousis, Vujcic, Glyniadakis. If any of you had even the slightest iota, even the smallest shred of European basketball knowledge you would stop all this bashing of Sofo and all these made up imaginary things about him like "does not play because of stamina"......

You will all look like complete fools next year. He is actually in very good physical condition and he can play 25 minutes a game very easily. There is no need in his team for him to play a lot. Bourousis plays 17 minutes a game and he had 4 NBA teams offer him the MLE this summer, but of course you idiot NBA fans probably think "Bourousis can't play because he lacks stamina that's why he can't play many minutes". Greg Popovich said Bourousis is as good as prime Divac and he plays 17 minutes in Olympiacos. Get a freaking clue about European basketball or shut up talking about it, because you insult it way too much with all your ignorance. Glyniadakis could play in the NBA if he wanted to. He was drafted by the Pistons and played with the Sonics. He asked to be a starter and they refused so he asked to be waived to go back to Greece. Regardless, this last summer the Pistons offered him a contract, but he turned it down. This guy barely even sees the court in Olympiacos because of the depth of big men. NBA general managers voted Vujcic the best player in Europe - look it up and see for yourselves you ignorant "basketball experts".

And you actually believe that Sofo plays limited minutes due to stamina? Lol you are a pure comedy routine you American NBA only fans. Sofo will be playing 20-25 minutes a game with the Clippers next year and he will have a chance to be rookie of the year - that is how DOMINANT he is. You fools will find out and then you can go talk trash about some other European player like you are "experts" when you don't have the slightest freaking clue what the hell you are talking about.

I saw all this same idiocy NBA fans were saying "Pekovic lacks stamina so he only plays 18 minutes a game" last year. You NBA fans are a pure comedy. Please from no on just stick to NBA only related topics because you embarrass this forum whenever you talk about European basketball.

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^^^ You honestly said all of

^^^ You honestly said all of this same stuff this summer. Lets cut all this "Americans are soo pathetic and funny..etc" talk and lets see if he makes it. The clock is ticking, and he hasn't done anything that's proving he's gonna be some NBA big man, he wasn't even production in the glorifed tryout that is the NBA preseason!

All that page-long typing means nothing if he's proving he's not NBA level.

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No it proves that the

No it proves that the American NBA only fans in this forum are ignorant and arrogant and brag about things that they do not have even the slightest knowledge of. The comments from American NBA fans at this site about the game in Europe are so embarrassing it is just sad and pathetic. You guys are an absolute embarrassment to nbadraft.net whenever you talk about players in Europe.

The fact that you then get an attitude and tell off people that actually know the game in Europe and call them out just makes it that much more of an insult and shows that you are proud of your ignorance, which shows how arrogant you are. For a site that is about international prospects all over the world, the comments that are allowed here about European players are really an embarrassment.

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Boo-whoo....

Boo-whoo....

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1. The clippers arent gonna

1. The clippers arent gonna sign dude any time soon and more than likely never will

2. here goes what one of your fellow europeans had to say about sofo on inthegame.org

http://www.in-the-game.org/?page_id=526

Sofoklis Schortsanitis: Will never be more than just a part-time-player. Granted, he is a beast down low, but when opponents decide to put him on the foul line, he loses his efficiency and he’s usually used so much that other players lose their offensive rhythm. Defensively, a liability in pick and roll defense. Quite talented to draw fouls on opposing big men though, which can be useful.

"Schortsanitis’ big problems are – we already mentioned it – stamina and defense, limiting him to 15-20 minutes per game at maximum. If Schortsanitis had stamina for 25-30 minutes a game, he would be the Euroleague’s most dominant individual force on the offensive end, without doubt. Schortsanitis finished Wednesday’s game with 12 points on 4/8 shooting and 2 rebounds in a little more than 11 minutes"

So out of all the players you could have chosen to defend/overhype...you really chose the wrong one

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GatHator you are a perfect

GatHator you are a perfect example of the arrogant and ignorant American NBA only fan that likes to tell of Europeans about what an expert he is on players he never even watches play. You have no business being on a forum that is about prospects from all over the world.

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your right man, im not an

your right man, im not an expert and i never said i was...thats why i gave you a link to a european based websites opinion on him...Sofo has had the same strengths and weaknesses since he was drafted by the clippers at what age 18 or 19? For the sake of your argument i think your ignoring that fact. I probably havent had the chance to watch as many games as you but i have been following international ball ever since 10th grade when i watched maccabi win the euroleague championship in 04 on nba tv...i think you are trying hard to make a point about americans hating on/not knowing much about euroball and in a way your right the problem is your choosing the wrong player as an example...

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unmmmm European Baller his

unmmmm European Baller his own coach has said he doesnt play much because of stamina and fouls so what are you talking about?..the guy doesnt dominate when he is even in the game. is a ok euro big man thats it. why dont you think the clippers are doing whatever it takes to get him over here?..why do you think hes not dominating or even starting over there? you just cant accept the fatc theat hes not as good as you think he is.

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