My Proposition for the Knicks
Since the trade deadline has passed I think it could be said the Knicks have been getting the most talk about the future considering they are now able to sign 2 max free agents in a class highlighting Lebron James and Dwyane Wade. First, I am going to start it off like this before Free Agency starts the Knicks have under contract for the 2010-11 season Eddy Curry, Toney Douglas, Danilo Gallinari, and Wilson Chandler. Also in the upcoming they have two 2nd round draft picks. The first thing the Knicks should do is draft a Center with one of there 2 2nd round picks to show free agents they are serious about a having a big guy in the middle. The Knicks have a glaring holes in every position besides the Small Forward position where Gallo is. I think what is best is the Knicks go after the best as well as sign role players. The most realistic situation I see for the Knicks is that they sign Joe Johnson (5yr/$75mil)(Only if Lebron and Wade have gone to other destinations) and possibly obtain Chris Bosh in a sign and trade for David Lee if Toronto won't give Bosh a max contract. I also think the Knicks should use there MLE on Marcus Camby as the team's starting Center as well as mentor a young big man the Knicks can draft in the 2nd round. Also depending on how other player's play that were acquired (Eddie House, Sergio Rodriguez, T-Mac) should be considered for the future for a low price. I think they can keep House and Sergio w/o problems, but if McGrady does really well he will be sought after, if he does average I think the Knicks could sign him for 3-4million or the vet minimum (don't think T-mac will accept that). With that being said here's how I could see the Knicks for the 2010-11 season.
PG's- Toney Douglas, Sergio Rodriguez, 2nd rounder
SG's- Joe Johnson, Tracy McGrady, Eddie House
SF-Danilo Gallinari, Wilson Chandler
PF-David Lee/Chris Bosh, maybe a veteran
C-Marcus Camby, 2nd rounder, Eddy Curry
I believe this is the most realistic situation. Though, I like all other Knicks fans hope we get Lebron, I see it as unlikely, but I believe.
The Knicks cannot keep D-Lee and add 2 max free agents. It's been said on the ESPN NBA Today podcast
can be kept through bird rights. I am pretty sure on that.
No, we have to sign him with his bird rights first, and if we do that..then we could only sign 1 max free agent
So its 2 max FAs
1 Max & keep Lee
Okay, thanks for that. I appreciate it. I think the Knicks have to go after the stars and then Lee, I think Lee will wait around to see what the Knicks do before he makes any decisions. Lebron is going to want to explore free agency, if he didn't then he would have signed a max contract this past summer with Cleveland effective for next season, he wants to explore and see's what the future holds, same goes for D-Wade.
EXPLAIN ME ?
Would leave Atlanta if Atlanta does not want to give him the money he wants. What is hard to understand about that. If Joe Johnson leaves Atlanta, Atlanta will be back where it was before Joe Johnson, a garbage team.
How can you have David Lee and Chris Bosh, both fighting for the same position, and then Joe Johnson, Tracy MacGrady and Eddie House, all trying to get the start?
I think the Knicks will have one of them, that's why I put a / in between there names. Obviously, they would not have both.
oh ok, sorry bout that.
Not a problem. I take you're a Raptors fan, do you think Toronto will give CB4 a max deal, if not would they consider a sign trade with the knicks for David Lee???
I think the Knicks should go cheap if they cant get the superstars...which every Knick hater says that nobody wants to go to the Knicks so I guess there right lol. But I think they should sign Raja Bell, Boozer, keep Rodriguez. Sign a big..like Amir Johnson. Maybe Tmac signs back for mle.
This is what I call "plan c".
You got it, im a raptors fan. I'm Pretty sure Toronto will offer Bosh a max deal. But there is always the possibilty they could trade him. David Lee is a great player, maybe not Bosh calibur, but i'd love to see him come to Toronto. Hed be a good fit.
how is drafting a center in the 2nd round showing there are serious about having a big guy in the middle? is that like when they signed jerome james to a big deal.
signing joe johnson for 5 years? the guy will be 29 this summer. judging by how most guards (not named kobe bryant) start breaking down at 30-31. do you really think that is a good move?
if toronto does a sign and trade for david lee, why wouldn't they just re-sign bosh?
marcus camby leaving the west?
how can any team make a run with toney douglas and sergio rodriguez as point guards?
Signing Jerome James to that contract was foolish and that's the past. What it does show is they want to get young. Joe Johnson is the best available, and I don't think he will wear down, but you never know. As for Toronto if Chris Bosh wants to leave for somewhere else, then that's a possibly though if the Knicks can't obtain Bosh I think resigning Lee is better than going after another 4. Marcus Camby leaving west, I don't know nor does anyone but Marcus.
On Douglas and Sergio, the Knicks no matter who they sign (except Lebron and Wade) won't be competing for a championship right away. First they need to make the playoffs.
Knicks82, Carlos Boozer can't play Center he's a 4. Also, that is a terrible plan C the knicks can and will do better than that.
Dm Schrute, I personally would rather keep David Lee, but I would take Chris Bosh over David Lee as the only option if the Knicks don't want to move on with Lee. I would rather have Lee over Amar'e and Boozer for his grit and heart for the team.
I know Boozers a 4, but that hasnt stopped the Knicks from playing Lee at 5 for the past 2 years.
Dantoni doesnt seem to care for the classic 7 footers much. And I agree that plan c doesnt look too good..thats why its plan c. Im hopeful the Knicks at least get 1 superstar..Im just trying not to get my hopes up.
If D'antoni had someone else who could play the 5 he would have Lee playing the 4. D'antoni has changed his ways from the SSOL offense because he realizes it won't win championships, championships are won in the half court offense when the game is on the line. I think the Knicks will get one super star as well.
If a team has a players bird rights they will have what is called a cap hold which prevents them from using money on new guys before they resign their player. They can denounce their bird rights but then won't be able to go over the cap to sign him. If the knicks think they can get 2 max players lee will be gone.
I figured that out from a previous post, but thanks for elaborating on it. I appreciate it.
I think plan C would be along the lines of Raymond Felton/Rudy Gay/Carlos Boozer/Tyrus Thomas/
Assuming the top 4-6 "major" free agents are no longer available,and the Knicks wouldnt mind overpaying a little bit to secure them because we'd have so much to spend...
If the Cavs lock up Lebron and Wade looks Chicago bound, then I would not mind seeing the Knicks go after Felton and Rudy Gay and try resigning David Lee. That would give the Knicks a starting 5 of Felton-Gallo-Gay-Lee-I think Camby with an MLE if he wants to come. With Chandler and Douglas coming off the bench.
I have been a knicks fan since the 90s as a kid, all I want to see is this team be the playoff perennial team they once were. I don't care what it takes I just want this team to get back to there winning ways, which I think they are doing. I am optimistic.
id rather have gay over joe johnson simply because joe johnson has played his best ball and gay has it his best ball commin up but idk how i can rock those gay jerseys haha jk but i like the plan of saving money if we dont get LBK or wade
Thing is the Knicks are packed at the 3. It is there best position. What would be good is if they get Gay is to trade Wilson Chandler to the Grizzlies if Memphis wants a sign and trade and move Gallo to the 2. Then go after a point guard, Raymond Felton, and focus on DLee. As well as try getting Camby with the MLE. So a starting 5 of Felton-Gallo-Gay-Lee-Camby is definitely a playoff contender in the East, right?
PG's- Sergio Rodriguez, Toney Douglas, 2nd rounder(Rodriguez will start over toney D and if they can get collins in the 2nd round he maybe player over Douglas)
SG's- Joe Johnson, Tracy McGrady, Eddie House(dont know about T Mac and Eddie House)
SF-Wilson Chandler,Danilo Gallinari (Chandler will start over Galo)
PF-Chris Bosh(Lee is not the answer)
C-Marcus Camby, 2nd rounder, Eddy Curry(his contract can get moved maybe for players on other teams that that team is not playing see TJ Ford)
If Knicks get Ford for Curry thatn 2nd Rounder is a power forward and this draft is packed with them and they could also do a deal with someone for cash and a future second for a 1st rounder)
Great Post. If I was the GM of the Knicks for the 2010 NBA Draft I would take Sherron Collins and Jerome Jordan with the team's 2nd rounders. Though Collins is undersized he has the ability to take over games when necessary. I think Eddie House will stick around unless a team gives him something better than the vet minimum or over $2mil. McGrady will wait and see what the Knicks do before going anywhere. I would not be shocked if the Knicks try to get Rudy Gay, and if the Griz realize they won't be able to retain him or he wouldn't want to be back possible sign and trade for Wilson Chandler. Though, we'll see what happens when the time comes.
This is if the major players are gone
i think in there system that they should sign Tyrus Thomas at the 4 (6-8 mill), sign Felton to play the point(6-8 mill), sign Joe Johnson at the 2 (will probably end up being a max contract) and then trade chandler for a center
Knicks can't keep Lee if they really are planning to maximize their cap space to go after 2 maximum contracts because they wouuld have to renounce the rights to all the FAs (including Lee, TMac, etc) in order to get that cap number (the cap hold as pointed out by someone earlier). I think I also read that they would have to buy out Eddy Curry (make his salary impact smaller) in order to be able to have enough cap for 2 max contracts.
Raptors is one of my favorite team (only behind Rockets), and I can certainly see Bosh leaving if the Raptors would not be able to crack the 2nd round this year. Considering the competition would be Cavs, Magic, Celtics, and Hawks, I am not sure if Raptors can really get to 2nd round. I can certainly see Bosh leaving even if the Raptors offer MAX. In this case, BC would be smart to go for a S&T to get David Lee and/or Galli (the italian connection).
If the Knicks is unable to get LBJ (likely to stay with Cavs if they win it all), Wade (possible since Miami hasn't been impressing Wade enough), or Bosh (Knicks should actually go after him more so than DWade), the Knicks should try to get one of Johnson or Gay and keep Lee at reasonable contracts to build around Johnson, Lee, and Galli. They can also keep Eddy Curry for a mid-season salary dump trade (I can already see teams that fail next season will do salary-dump trades because the CBA will be renegiotiated).
I like Bosh and I want him to stay in Toronto, but I think we should be realistic and I am just giving my opinions even though I like the Raptors.
Also, because the team started off under the cap, it would not have the MLE (only available to team over cap), so your proposition would not work.
I would like NY if they can get
PG- Raymond Felton
SG- Rudy Gay
SF- Danillo Gallinari
PF- Chris Bosh
C- David Lee
With Chandler, Douglas and a big on the bench
Also, Rudy Gay IS NOT getting a max deal. I can say that safely.
pg- felton/lowry, douglass
fill up the front court with rooks
why on earth would u sign joe johnson for 15 mil a year.... not to mention i think u get almost ur whole post from a realgm article...