Worst coach to win a national championship?
I understand that its a bit of an oxymoron to be a bad coach but to also win a national championship, but there are some exceptions, and im not talking bout coaches that walked into one(Tubby Smith). My vote goes to Gary Williams of Maryland, the guy got his in 02, and he made the final four the year before, ill give him that, but he didnt do squadoosh before that and he hasnt done squadoosh since then. I mean I hear the guy doesnt even go on recruiting trips anymore, because when you miss out on guys like Melo, Durant, Gay, Greene, Beasly, Green, Hibbert, and Lawson in the years following the national championship, that to me is just inexcusable, and thats why to me he is hands down the worst coach to win a national championship
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Gary Williams has 625 career victories, 4 sweet 16 runs under Maryland before the 2002 national championship and one 16 run after in 2003. He may not be the coach he once was, but to vote him as the worst coach to win an NCAA championship is un founded in my opinion.
this topic is stupid... if he is so bad coach how come he won a title ?
This probably is a little too subjective. Gary Williams isn't even a good example. The guy won with a Maryland team that wasn't that impressive, making his win a little bit more so in my opinion. It's easier to win when you have loads of talent every year or you are at a powerhouse school. I'm not 100% sure how good of a coach Roy Williams is and he has 2-3 titles. Not saying he is not a really good coach, but he's had some teams which were way too talented to take some of the tournament losses they took.
The whole Tubby thing reeks. I am pretty sure the guy was coaching the team when they won and not Pitino. Just because you have the talent doesn't mean it's automatic that you win. His team was the only team in over twenty years to win without a first-team All-American or future NBA lottery pick. So that says a lot about the so-called talent he had. The guy went undeafeted in the SEC when it was stacked and also was the 2nd fastest to 100 wins in school history. If anything, he gets penalized for making expectations ridiculously higher than they were already going to be at the school. The guy also did a great job at his previous stops in Tulsa and Georgia.
As far as I am concerned I am not sure there is a better coach than Tom Izzo. He might occasionally grab a big time player from the area, but his teams bring it every day and he gets the most out of his players, while keeping a clean program. Coach Calipari and Kelvin Sampson say what?
are you serious????..gary williams?..hes one of the best coach's in college basketball bar none. im a maryland fan but id still take him over any coach in ncaa and ill tell you why. this guy wins with guys who are after thoughts in hs. he gets the best out of players that arent all americans. yet he's the worst coach?...yeah this is very very stupid. missing out on those players dont make you a bad coach. that is recruiting not coaching genius. and everyone in the know knows he hasnt gotten big time recruits from the area because he tends to go by the pass where he just sends assistance to most games instead ogf going his self and he's burned a couple of bridges with some of the area highschool coachs. he's start rebuilding those bridges and changing the way he has recruited. hell maybe i should say the cuse coach since he always gets top talent yet only has one title
You would take Gary Williams over any coach in the ncaa right now? Really? Well thats your opinion and thats fine, but recruiting is apart of coaching, and this guy missed out on all those guys cuz he pissed off some of there highschool coaches? I mean jesus, shallow your pride and send them some flowers or something, dont just sit back and let players liek melo, durant beasley etc. pass you by because you burned some brideges with there coaches. And as far as Boeheim is concerned, im a lifelong cuse fan and ive always thought he was a lil overrated, so by u saying that it doesnt really change my opinion on williams, but to boeheims deffense he has made it to 3 final fours to garys 1.
Hold on quincyhodges. Jim Boeheim gets the most of out his players (who are afterthoughts). Only one player on this year's team was a top 50 player.
Also Hakim Warrick wasn't top 100. Gerry McNamara was barely top 50. Etan Thomas was barely top 100 and was only recruited after Winfred Walton (ranked the #1 pf in hs that year) did score well on the ACT and left the program. Damone Brown wasn't a top 100 player, neither was Preston Shumpert. These guys were drafted in the NBA.
Now, about Gary Williams. He hasn't won lately, but he isn't the worst coach with a title. Neither is Steve Fisher, who is doing great at San Diego State. Before he got there SDU hadn't been to the NCAA tournament in about 20 years. He's taken them three times?
Dhamp2....the greatest basketball mind in the world. Next to Hubie Brown anyway.
Kris Joseph is a three-point shot away from being a first round draft pick.
Wesley Johnson will be a lottery pick.
Syracuse has at least five, maybe six draftable players.
Willie Warren won't be a lottery pick.
Is terrible considering you can't be a bad coach in order to win a national title since the college game has so much strategy to it, so there is none.
As for Gary Williams being one of the best coaches in college basketball, I disagree. I think he is a very good coach, but not one of the best. I would rather have as for current coaches Boeheim, Jamie Dixon, Jay Wright, Roy Williams, Coach K, Rick Barnes, Frank Martin, Bill Self. In order to be a successful college coach you have to be a good recruiter as well as coaching your players to the best of there abilities.
Rick Barnes was an assistant under Gary Williams at Ohio State. He doesn't have the most impressive coaching tree, but Barnes and Fran Fraschilla are part of it as well as current Temple head coach Fran Dunphy.
hmm never knew that. Thanks for sharing that.
hmm never knew that. Thanks for sharing that.
gary has been to 2 final fours. and cuse has had many all american..gay hasnt. gary develops players and does the most with the least amount of talent. what other big name coach gets less hereld recruits but gets the most out of them? boehim has had more talent but has the exact same number of national titles. recruiting is part of coaching but no one in there right mind would say someone is a bad coach if they are winning but arent getting top recruits. not that it matters since they win even without the all americans. which do you think makes a coach better?..winning with lower talent or winning with major talent. you named gary and warrick but whats about billy edlen and melo anbd derrick coleman, paul harris johnny flynn eric devendorf?...even mcnamara was ranked higher then most of if not all of md players and how many rings does the cuse have to show for that?..1...bohiem is one of the most overrated coach's in my opinion when you figure hes only one one ring after all these years with all americans. sheman douglas,lawrence moten. we are all entitled to our opinions but youre about gary being the worst coach is just plain wrong
This topic is silly...
A fact about Williams' national championship team: They won that title with 0 McDonald All-Americans, the only time that's ever happened in history. He has my utmost respect (if it's worth anything lol)...