Prospects on Kansas
what are your guys opinions on the games of the players (besides henry,collins,and aldrich) what abou morningstar, both morris brothers, reed, withey etc.
by the way what happened to that teahan kid that came in with reed i thought he was the next korver
I've seen a lot of KU over the years and here is what I think about the players you mentioned
I've already posted about what I think of Aldrich, Collins, and Henry so i'll post about the others.
Brady Morningstar - very good perimeter defender, and solid athlete without being exceptional. He can break the press, and is a very efficient scorer his shooting percentages are high and just a craft college veteran who Bill Self would often rather have in late in the game instead of a guy with more NBA talent Tyshawn Taylor, but I don't think he is NBA material. A solid career overseas seems likely.
Marcus Morris - the most improved Jayhawk by far. Last season he was okay at best, but has gotten himself in great shape and throws it down with authority compared to last year when at times he looked like a 6'8'' guy who could barely dunk. He rarely takes bad shots and has college 3 point range, but rarely forces 3s. Good low post passer and versitile, he needs to work on his release, it is still a little slow and he will need to be a better ball handler to play sf at the next level, but I think he is a mid- to late 1st round pick in 011 and depending on how he finishes the year maybe a late 1st rounder in 2010
Markeiff Morris- Markeiff is way more post oriented that Marcus, he is a good rebounder and low post passer, he can really run the high low game which is need at Kansas. He is a pretty good shot blocker and like his brother is in so much better shape this season he is up to about 240 and has gotten much stronger. He is raw on offense and cant really create his own shot, but is a decent shooter who also has college 3 point range. He needs some work on his game, I see him as a 4 year player, but if he improves at the rate he has been I think he could be a late 1st rounder or early 2nd rounder by his senior season.
Jeff Withey- I have seen very little of him this season, because he sat out much of the first semester to fulfill transfer requirements, but when he has seen significant minutes like he did vs Iowa State he has produced. 8 pts 6 rbs and a block in about 15 minutes. He runs the floor well and is a pretty fluid athlete for a legit 7 footer. He came into KU at 215 and is already at 230. Working at KU with Danny Manning I expect him to be much better next season and probably about another 5 to 10 pounds heavier. I think he is a 1st rounder in 2012
Tyrel Reed- Reed is a very good athlete, he boasted the highest hang clean this summer on the entire KU team at only 190 pounds or so at over 300 pounds. He fills the role of a long range shooter combo guard for KU, he is pretty clutch and has hit a number of buzzer beaters before halftime, athough a good long range shooter he really isn't the most consistant long range shooter a lot of people think he is, I don't think he is an NBA player because he lacks the size to play a 2 guard in the NBA and really doesn't do enough things exceptionally well. Very solid though, but not a NBA player
Connor Tehan- he only looks like Kyle Korver. One of the slowest players I have ever seen on a court. Suspect defender and is 10th man on KU's stacked team. He would maybe be putting up 8 to 10 points on MVC team, he is pretty strong and has good height but he complete lack of speed gives him no chance to play NBA ball.
Markeiff and Marcus seem like completely different players to me for some reason. Yes, they're similar in size and skill set, but I see Marcus as being more of poor man's Ryan Gomes, and Markeiff as a Craig Smith kind of guy. It seems as if shooting the college three is a pre-requisite for "low-flying" NBA PF prospects nowadays as everyone in the NBA is extending their range at the 4 spot (Bosh, D.Lee, D.West, etc.). But all in all, I'd have to say Marcus is the most poignant prospect IMO for the NBA out of the group.
Does anyone else think that Marcus Morris will become something like Ryan Gomes in the NBA?
Marcus Morris is the talented twin and he has some serious matchup problem potential as he can face the basket well, rebound effectively, work the low post on offense and be a factor blocking shots.
Markieff Morris is not so talented. He is pretty ineffective offensively and although he rebounds well and can be shot-blocking threat, he's extremely foul-prone. I think Marcus Morris can be a 1st round pick, but Markieff looks a few years away from that.
Morningstar isn't very good to me. He's a spot-up shooter and nothing really else.
Tyrel Reed was supposed to have Kirk Hinrich type ability, but he's been a disappointment. I didn't realize he was getting minutes until he was running around the court against K-State.
Tyshawn Taylor is someone I never understood the hype about. He was a supposed 1st round possibility. He does nothing at a more than mediocre rate for an NBA player, except he tries harder than most on D.
Markeiff has still shown a lot of improvment this season. he has put on about 15 pounds of muscle, is dunking on people and playing the same minutes for a better team has upped his points for 4.6 to 6.1 rbs from 4.4 to 5.2 and is way more efficient offensively. There are far less moments of me watching a game and wanting to pull my hair out at Markeiff's expense this year. He has a low bball IQ though and I agree, he is a few years away, a 4 year play in my mind, but he still has defensive potential as a late 1st rounder or early 2nd rounder.
Marcus is looking to be a legit 1st rounder, he is averaging something like 17 and 8 in the Big 12 and really has a nose for scoring and being in the right place at the right time. I think Ryan Gomes is more post oriented than Marcus, but I see where you are coming from. I think he poor man's Michael Beasley, in my opinion, a little smaller but an inside outside post player, smooth fluid athlete without being a great one, can create his own shot and is an ok but not great defender. I don't think Marcus will have the same impact as Beasley by any means, but I could see him as a 13 point 5 rebound guy in the league in a few years.