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No Singler or Scheyer in the 2010 Mock...what gives?

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No Singler or Scheyer in the 2010 Mock...what gives?

Wondering where people think Singler and Scheyer would go in the draft. Certainly they won't go undrafted, but they're not in the recent mock. I think late 1st or early 2nd for both.


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It is pretty much just a

It is pretty much just a guess who will leave early for the draft. Some are easy to assume, but last year everyone had Aminu, Monroe, Warren, Turner, Patterson, and the like leaving. My guess is that they dropped Singler because he has underperformed expectations, but then again if he was to enter I would have a hard time believing he goes after Elias Harris and Luke Babbitt, so I guess that would probably put him somewhere between 15-30. Singler hasn't had the greatest year, but he'd undoubtedly be the best player in the WCC or WAC.

Scheyer is a different situation. Could he make a roster? Sure. Is there a big difference between what he could possibly be in the NBA and what Beno Udrih or Stephen Curry does? Probably not. Maybe I'd feel better about Curry's performance if C.J. Watson didn't do the same thing but that is beside the point. I just don't think there is anything special to what he will be, and whether he has a career in the NBA or in Las Palmas is largely due to the luck of who takes him and the opportunity he is afforded. If the wind blew a different way, guys like Taquan Dean, Lynn Greer, and Aaron Miles would probably be in the NBA. That said, I tend to believe he will get a better shot than those guy. I think teams are going to start to talk themselves into him, despite their better instincts about his limitations. It would not shock me if he gets taken with the final few picks of the first round, and I cannot imagine there won't be one team that would like him enough to go out and buy an early or middle 2nd rounder to take him. But I said the same thing about Gerry McNamara.

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im not seeing how you can

im not seeing how you can compare cj watson and curry. watson is a in his 3rd or 4th year. hes had starts and he still didnt do as well on the floor or statistically as curry. some may not like curry because he isnt putting up big numbers but his performances have to be respected. im not sure what some people want out of the guy but hes shooting 46 percent while putting up 14ppg and shooting 44% from 3 not to mention about 4reb and 5 ast. hell hes only one off in both from evans while 6 points off from ppg despite being smaller, skinner. hes ranked 6th in the nba in steals. i mean really what more do some of ya'll want from this guy

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Really, when C.J. Watson

Really, when C.J. Watson closed last year going for 17-5-4 per that wasn't as good as Curry? When he was getting major burn in December in place of Curry and doing the same thing Curry is now, he wasn't as good?

Nellie can throw out any combination of his 17-some players and have any 5 of them put up incredible raw numbers and see his team lose 110-115. Not any one of those combinations can consistently win, so I'm not going to get all excited about what Curry is doing, rookie or not. It would be like looking at Kevin Love's or David Lee's numbers and thinking they are as good as Amare. Most NBA guys can put up numbers in a good situation where they get minutes and opportunities, not many can do so on a winning team.

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takes more then just a

takes more then just a couple of games there chief. and if he could do the job just as well then he would have the spot instead of curry. hell if you are going by that then why not trade jennings, westbrook and 90 percent of the other pg out there for him??...its called fools gold. or as i call it" pulling a ramone sessions. curry is good reguardless what system he's in. thats like saying some of these stars numbers are good because they have plays run for them. reguardless of what system youre in you still have to deal with defenses and you still need the talent to do what you do. stephen jacson has shown it isnt just the offense as well as baron davis and other maverick players when he coached there. it takes talent

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BTPH, you don't...

...see Scheyer in the Hinrich mold? I do. I think the harder guy to quantify is Singler, if only because for every 6-8 SF with a jumpshot, you get 50% Mike Dunleavy/Troy Murphy/Glen Rice (in a best case scenario), and 50% Rashad Anderson/Adam Morrison/Joe Alexander. Singler has more post game than most of those, but not sure his frame is such that he'll be a score on the block at the next level.

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hell joe johnson, q

hell joe johnson, q richardson before his injury and weight issue has shown its not just the offense. im not gonna down play amare or nash because of that system either. anyone can say that about any team int he nba. its the system. of course it has some truth to it. and im also not gonna fully down play players because they are on a bad team. if i did that lawson would probably be rookie of the year. since evans jennings, curry are all on bad teams. and lee shouldnt even be considered for a allstar birth by that logic and the rookie soph game wouldnt include amny of the best rookies

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When I watch Brandon

When I watch Brandon Jennings, I can see things that he can do that cannot be done by Luke Ridnour. He has elite quickness and great ability to create for others. Right now, he can't hit a shot to save his life, but the room for growth is there. Russell Westbrook is one of the best athletes in the league, and his situation is very similar to Jennings in terms of growing as a player. Eric Maynor can do some nice things, but he can't do what Westbrook does when things are going right for him. Curry doesn't have any one trait that he sets him apart from the pack, and that is why I keep comparing him to a "pack" kind of guard like C.J. Watson.

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