Texas vs. Uconn game thoughts
The Texax Uconn game was a good game til Uconn blew the game out of the water late in the second half. In this game, it is safe to say that due to the health problems of coach Calhoun the nation was cheering for the Huskies to get the upset...Much to the delight of the nation Uconn was victorious 88-74. Now lets talk NBA draft and GM mode. this game showcased I believe 6 Players who have unquestionable NBA tallent. Texas big 3 vs. Uconn Big 3...they are as follow
Damion James-23points 7rebounds
Dexter Pittman-5points 2 Rebounds
Avery Bradley-15 points
Stanley Robinson-17points 12 Rebounds
Kemba Walker- 19points 10 assist
Jerome Dyson- 32 points (career high)
Uconn shows once again why they produce some of the best NBA tallent of any college basketball team. Robinson, Walker, and Dyson stepped up there game and stepped up the intensity. Stanley Robinson when he wants too can completely change the game on the glass and defensively with his athletism. Dyson and Walker are very good combo guards, or point guards who can score the ball..This game also showed how Uconn can be so inconsistant, this same team went to Michigan and got out hustled and outplayed with Calhoun on the bench. Uconn can be very scary but i believe that they fall victim to "PLAYING TO THERE LEVEL OF COMPITION"...if Majok can control the paint Uconn will be in the elite 8 without a doubt.
Texas on the other hand did not deserve to be number one in nation first off. I hate to say because i do not condone John Callipari cause i dont like cheaters; but Kentucky should have been number one after the Florida game. Damion James has a NBA body, NBA athlete and NBA game. I was dissapointed that he didnt take that game over earlier to keep it closer for longer in the 2nd half. Avery Bradley is going to be a very good point guard for Texas, I really hope that he stays in school at least another season, that will get his $ up, right now he is better then Daniel Gibson but short of a D.J. Augustine. Which brings me to Dexter Pittman, I was once high on this kid now i take it back. First off he is out of shape, first 14 games he averaged a double double, now the doubles he is getting is for a $1 at Mcdonalds. He was a total dissapointment!!!! for a kid with his size, his potential and for how long he has been playing at Texas he doesn not have a NBA motor nor NBA athletism needed to compete every night....HE NEEDS TO REBOUND REBOUND REBOUND REBOUND!!!!!!!!! Maybe im too hard on him but at 6'10 280 take advantage...At the same time Texas Guards have to feed the Big fella the ball early! get him involved in the first 3 possesions, he is either going to put the opposing center in foul trouble, which dominates the paint then opens up the gamae for James and the guards for Texas.....
Both teams will be a joy to watch in there Conference Tourneys and NCAA Tourney...I hope Uconn doesnt run into another George Mason, for Texas Dexter Pittman is the key to there success. Stanley Robinson right now is a top of my " NBA Small Foward Ready" great game Uconn!!!!!! I believe this game will make Texas a better team.
NBA SMALL FOWARD READY LIST
1. Stanley Robinson- UCONN- defense, athletism, and a Final 4 on the resume....CERTIFIED
1B. Al-Faroug Aminu- Wake Forrest- defense, athletism, rebounder, strong finisher!....CERTIFIED
3. Damion James-Texas- size, athletism, strong, nice mid range shooter.....CERTIFIED
4. DeSean Butler- West Virginia- size, scorer, defense, disciplaned, needs to have a good Big East tourney, and NCAA tourney....I want to know what he can do on the big stage!
5. Elias Harris- Gonzaga- size, athletism, can gaurd 4 positions...weak conference so he is not certified until tourney time.
Avery Bradley is a solid college guard right now to me...He's not ready for the NBA though, as he has no special characteristic as a player. Him and Tyshawn Taylor are players that aren't really NBA players yet (although Bradley does have much more potential than Taylor and should be ready for NBA ball next season or 2012 even) but they are/were hyped for some reason as early 1st round prospects. Bradley really should return for another season in my eyes..
Damion James continues to solidify himself as a good prospect. He's cleared up his perimeter skills significantly, and that was the only thing holding him back from being in the NBA anyway.
Balbay and Lucas is mediocre at best at PG. Balbay is quick and can drive, but he's not a great playmaker and is a POOR shooter. Lucas just looks very uncomfortable and borderline nervous.
You summed up Pittman quite well LOL...He elevates and finishes poorly in traffic. Gary Johnson is a nice bench player. He'll probably never be in the NBA, but he is a tough grinder and has an old-school game
As for UConn....Stanley Robinson played great ball today. I usually say he's overrated, but he showed a promising jump shot and of course his trademark athleticism and physical tools. He's an unbelievable specimen. Even though he has developed alot offensively, I don't see him ever being more than a 4th option in the NBA. He isn't much of a ball-handler and will probably be forced to score in transition, off garbage plays, and spot up shooting.
Kemba Walker goes for the flashy play alot, but I like him. He's very quick and electric and you have to like how he pressures the ball and works defensive;y. He's also a good little passer and ball-handler. I think he can be an awesome change-of-pace PG. He's very similar to Ty Lawson.
Jerome Dyson really reminds me of a poor man's Leandro Barbosa...He's quick and a good athlete. I don't think he'll be quite as good a scorer as Barbosa, but he can be a scoring threat in the NBA. He also the heart and soul of UConn
Gavin Edwards scored today, but he's a terrible rebounder and defender. He plays weak. I don't like him quite honestly, but he was UConn most effective post player offensively today.
Iggy, offer me the trade.if you have a chance.
I thought I did offer it, but ok
accepted, good doing business with ya.
this game yes he elevated and finished poorly in traffic but if you talking about all season then you must not have watched him much. he dunked on unc whole front line a couple of times as well as mich st off of drop steps and vert
He didn't against Kansas State the other night, and he didn't against Texas A&M either...He has trouble elevating in crowds every time I watch him for the most part.
did you watch him against unc and mich st?..and when you are in foul trouble and on the bench or out of breath (since he still isnt in the best of shape) its kinda hard to finsh. hes already proved by going over those guys and other games that he can finish in traffic and go through guys. not as consistant as he should be but theres no way you can say hes a poor finisher. he doesnt shoot jumpers so his point are coming from somewhere. also he shot 2-3 today not something like 1-10 where that would clearly show he doesnt finish well. and at one point late in the season he was leading the nation in fg percentage. that doesnt sound liek a guy who is a poor finisher. and we know his moves are not to go around or out run a guy so all of his points come from going over or through guys with contact
He's not as good a finisher in traffic as he needs to be at his size all the time..I watched both of those games, and he finished when the rim was in clear view for him...He doesn't elevate well nor does he finish as good when he is contested. He will dunk when he has a clearer path, but anything other than that is probably going to be a lay-in or a jump hook.
when the rim was clear view?...are you sure you watched the game?..he dunked on thomas then davis then both then some other guy. the same with mich st. you must be thinking of some other guy because this guy didnt score 23 points from wide open looks to the rim and didnt shoot 8 free throw beause hes was so wide open
After a breakout junior season, Dexter Pittman continued his physical transformation in the offseason, losing even more weight while working on his game, and it’s been showing in his performance this season. Pittman’s scoring and minutes are both up, while his efficiencies have shot through the roof, and he continues to rank among the top players in our database in a ton of categories, most notably ranking 2nd in PER, 2nd in EFG% and 6th in offensive rebounds per-40 minutes pace adjusted.
On the offensive end, Pittman has taken his post game to the next level, showing a noticeable improvement in his comfort level and footwork, while he’s definitively developed a go-to move in his right-handed hook shot. Pittman does an excellent job of establishing great position on the block, where he either seals his man for an inside power move to the basket or just backs him down for an easy hook shot across the lane. He appears more confident in his game here, and has kept things simple to work to his strengths. -draftexpress.com
trust me if a 6'9 280 pound center that doesnt shoot jumpers or out runs people, doesnt terrorize on defense, was such a poor finisher then why would he be some one the scouts liek and a projected first round pick?. hes not 17 or a freshman. hes not a jumper shooter like i said. he doesnt have super quickness or handles hes not 7'4 so there wouldnt be a reason for him to be drafted at all if he was a poor finisher
But you left out the part of the report on Draftextpress that stresses what I'm talking about....
"With his ever-improving physique, Pittman is doing a better job finishing around the basket, getting off the floor quicker and making better use of his raw power, though he still faces situations where his lack of reactive explosiveness limits him"
"Closer to the basket, Pittman shows solid hands and finishes well around the basket, though there are some concerns projecting to the next level, namely with his inability to quickly explode vertically, likely due to his only being in shape for a year or so. Pittman’s biggest priority right now should be developing his explosiveness and working on getting off the ground quicker, as this would vastly improve his effectiveness around the basket, and also help him down the road in the pick-and-roll game, where he shows considerable potential with his size and mobility (though he’s rarely ever used in this situation at Texas). "
I mean, he finishes very well when he gets off his hook shot or when he powers through people, but if he's faced with a situation where his raw strength isn't enough, or his shots get contested, he doesn't have the explosiveness to just power up and over defenders. Those same scouting reports you just showed me also stress what I was saying about his lack of vertical explosiveness. It's a fact that he isn't where he needs to be exploding off the floor and finishing. I've seen it in games. There are going to be times where he dunks the ball, he's like 6'10" thats not abnormal. But that is when the rim is at clear view. I've never seen him dunk on anyone in all the games I've seen him play, and that's been a lot of games. Every time he dunks, it's because he beats the weakside rotation or he spins past his man. Not because he powered up and through his man.
and where in there is there even a hint of being a poor finisher?
obvious;y if he was as poor of a finsher as you seem to think then he wouldnt be thought of as a first rounder. im willing to bet anything that you cant find one place that says hes a poor finisher
He's not a poor finisher, but he is limited by his leaping ability...He's a good finisher actually, but that's when he isn't contested. He's not that good a finisher when he has a body on him or when he his power isn't enough...I read the same scouting reports you read, I knew you'd take some parts out that you thought would help win your argument lol...
NBA Comparison: Stanley Roberts
Strengths: Mammoth of a man who has made enormous strides developing his game. Has dropped over 70 pounds since arriving on the UT campus, from 366 to the 290 range -- showing his work ethic and desire to make use of his frame ... Attended the Pete Newell Big Man Camp in the summer of 2008 ... His quickness, agility and feel for the game continue to improve year in and year out ... Has enormous hands. and very soft hands for a man his size ... Has shown a deft touch around the rim (career 59% from the field) and at the free throw line (73% as junior) ... Has good release and follow through on FT stroke ... Uses his large frame to seal off opponents in the paint with relative ease ... Finishes strong at the hoop ... Was extremely passive and unsure of himself early on his college career, but has developed a mean-streak to his game ... Takes advantage of his size and punishes smaller opponents ... Has improved his quickness off the floor, averaging nearly three offensive boards per game as a Jr ... His pet move is a drop step into the lane with a short baby hook ... Extremely bright kid, was Academic All-Big 12 as a sophomore.
Weaknesses: Stamina is a major concern. Still only seeing 15 minutes of playing time per contest ... Despite loss of weight, movement up and down the court is still an issue and can be painful at times ... He will always be a 'lumberer' ... Foul trouble usually emerges as a result of fatigue ... He averages a foul every 5 minutes on the court ... He has made massive improvements in lateral quickness and agility, but these will always be flaws ... Has a tendency to push off on the offensive and defensive glass, committing unnecessary fouls. Always enjoys a major size advantage against big 12 competition. He will not enjoy this same distinct advantage against opposing Center's in the NBA ... Still brings the ball down too low in the paint, leveling the playing field against smaller foes allowing them to slap it away ... Has not shown any semblance of a face up game or midrange jumper. Needs to continue to develop in these areas, as well as continued improvement in his post game, physical strength and stamina ...
and his leaping ability is alot better then you think. he bangs on people. dont ask me how cuz he weighs alot but when he gets under that basket he suprises me and many im sure as he goes up and dunks on people. even when you take all of it it doesnt say hes a poor finisher so why would i need to talk all of it?..we werent talking about him as a athlete or anything else but his ability to finish right?...so what parts that you added said anything to strenghen you cant finsh arguement?...he finishes if someones on him or not. he rarely is alone down low so how is he not finishing with people on him? check out the games on you tube and see how he is scoring while people are on him. and how can a guy get all these and 1's if people arent on him?..and how is he getting and one dunks?...and he gets double teamed alot and still fisnihes so how can he not be able to finish with people on him?...sorry but there is nothing out there to support youre claim of his finishing ability
Quincey, please take the time to read what I've said in the previous 4 or 5 post straight, because I keep saying he can finish at the rim, but when he isn't contested. I literally keep saying that, but you must not be reading what I'm saying....
the thing is he does finish at the rim contested. thats why he gets so many and one dunks because they are contested. and he powers through people while they are contesting him. no such thing of a big man putting up points and great fg while getting alot of dunks unless people are just moving out the way like hes shaq or hes shooting all jumpers
kendrick perkins with more offensive potentiaal hopefully
he's got the tools, its all about getting on the right team that will help him develop
The man loses effectiveness when he can't power through people...I've seen it happen to him. Whenever he makes a strong finish it's because he spins out of a double team and has a clear path, if the D rotates late and he has a clear path or if he gets a dump off with a clear lane. Never because he just outleaps anyone on makes a drop steps and elevates up and over or through the D. I like Pittman and think he could be a potentially dominant player in the NBA, but he's got to become stronger in his lower body to mreach his potential (along with losing weight and gaining stamina). He's not where he needs to be in terms of finishing in traffic for someone his size.
he was down to 281 this preseason
Minnesota could get him and a wing player
the rebuilding could end as early as next season
ive been saying for weeks that hes not a finished product. he is gonna get better just like all the other players in college. hes about 6 years from being in his prime and hes more agressive and can finish better then 97 percent of the other college big men out there and just like them he will get better. and if he loses weight hes gonna be alot better and will be even quicker and jump even hiher. hell in hs he was 340 plus and dunked over cole aldrich at the nbaplayers camp