or beating chicago without pippen...would you say chi is a different team when pippen is playing with them
and all the good teams can say if we had another big man or good gurad or blah blah. we beat the nuggets in the playoffs when they had a better team defensively last year ( affalo has played alright but his defense isnt jones) and bynum not at 100percent. are you really gonna say that game without gasol is a indication of the nuggets beating the lakers?
I think i pointed out the fact gasol was missing but gasol dosent check melo or jr smith kobe n artest who were playing in that game kenyon n nene didnt really do anything that game
If you watch LA games like u say u do then u know bynum doesnt play well wit gasol wen gasol gets off bynum is quite wen gasol is out bynum steps his play up and u got odom who can put up 20 any night
And u jus basically compared pippen to gasol kill urself slim
it doesnt matter that gasol doesnt check melo.. the fact that he didnt play says it all. if denver beats the spurs without duncan does it matter that melo doesnt check dunan or vice versa?..come on now i know you know more about basketball then to really think that game without gasol really means anything. id be just as clueless to say it would mean anyting if we beat the nuggets with melo out and gasol in even if gasol doesnt check melo. and bynum plays well enough ..obviously you dont watch the lakers games. bynum still gets a good 14 and 8.. i think that splaying pretty well. it kills me when people who just dont like the lakers try to think of some off the wall reason to think this or that team is better instead of thinking like a person who can put there personal feelings aside
yeah i see im not talking to very bright people. im comparing there roles genius....pippen-second best player on bulls team.. title team.all nba player...gasol-second best player on team. all nba player title team....do you get it now or should i break it down even more
and didnt we see last year when gasol plays and melo plays. in a situation where each team is playing there hardest???..yeah theres zero excuses there. the better team won
who gave him a point..lol
Last year lakers had ariza this year they have lawson n la got artest n jus cuz pippen n gasol play similar roles doesnt make them comparable get real pippen is a multiple allstar without jordan gasol is a last choice if that i see im dealin wit one of those lakers fans who jus think LA n das it n if u watch any i mean any basketball at all everyone on this site know melo frm las year n this year is not that same get ya mind rite kid
n u keep suggestin a game without gasol mean nothing like gasol is there best player a spurs team without duncan is not the same duncan is there best player a nuggets team without melo is not the same he is there best player a lakers team without gasol is still good because he is not there best player
no one is omparing there skill smart guy. and artest is putting up the same numbers as arezia and lawson isnt so good that he can make up 3 games (4-2 series) and jones defense was very important for them last year. and what is the big differene from melo this and last year?..hes scoring a lil more, fg up a lil....get youre mind right if they are so different how come they are tied for second and the lakers are still first???..yeah you can hope all you want but whos STILL on top even with melo playing how hes playing...whos the top 2 players still int he leauge?..kobe, lebron..not kobe melo or lebron melo. matter of fat melo is only scoring a point more..shooting the same percentages and grabbing the same amount of rebounds. while denver is worst at defense and the other players arent playing as well as last year.
plus bynum was nowhere near 100% last years playoffs. He will have a much bigger impact this year if they meet.
matter of fact i dont wanna hear nothing from denver untill they even get to the championship. or beat us when it counts...THE PLAYOFFS. or get the best record int he nba and the western conference. untill then everything you are saying is hopes,wishes of what you think they can do. the thing is everything you think they can do the lakers have done. men lie, women lie. numbers dont...so untill they have something to say besides " we beat the lakers without gasol" then what is there to say??
After seeing what aaron brooks did to ur pgs i think ty lawson makes a big difference remeber ariza won two games for yall in that series n jones didnt play good d vs kobe he got torched n he doesnt score at all aflalo played good d vs kobe this year an he can hit a open shot which is very important because kobe likes the drift on defense leavin his man
Damn so you just deleted erything u said before n put somethin else lol smooth move lol
blah blah blah..fisher been getting beat every year thats not news.. and if lawson is playing all those minutes then where is billups??....there lies the problem. cant play both at the same time. and you tend to foget the different between regular season for a rookie and playoffs. i hear all these maybes and hopes. yet i cant recall anyone mentioning the nuggets when people name the title contenders. ive heard the lakers, cavs, boston, orlando... even atlanta. but when they talk west all i hear is the lakers then everyone else... matter of fact the spurs get more press about challenging the lakers then denver
Lawson plays those minutes anthony carter bum ass plays u talkin reckless an u prolly one of dem ppl dat listenin to the media wen they praise the lakers but when its time to talk about their glaring weaknesses u turn the channel n wen they talk about people challenging in the west all i hear is denver
how bout letting the facts speak ...denver still has no itle. they are in second place..is the media makes up there record?...lakers..better team better record. defending champs.. this is like a game where u just got a dunk on my team but i point at the score board and we are up 20...the only thing you can say is " we got lawson and melo is playing better" ...all you have is what you hope denver will do. lawson puts up 9 a game. jones last year put up 5.. thats plus 4 points...minus what jones could do on defense that lawson cant do. and lawsons defense is average at best. if youre hanging on beating the lakers because you have a new back up rookie point guard then you are dreaming. youre liek one of those guys who never won anything but continues to talk junk to the guy who constantly wins
how about you let denver win something before talking. let them have the best record in the nba, west, a title before you talk. because right now you have nothing to back up youre talk but hopes. dallas can talk more then yall because they at least have been to the title game in the last 5,10,15,20 years...like coaches will tell you you gotta win first before you talk
Jus cuz they haven won anything dnt mean they wont so u sayin the celtics couldnt talk wen dey won the title cuz they havent been to the title in 5 10 years O yea but they had the best record you say but i thought u said the playoffs is where it matters u lookin too much into records rather than team chemistry an team matchups
blah blah blah...win something first...anything...helll just become a contender first then talk..lol..
did u really ask why would things change in the playoffs mike??..really?...have u every watched nba basketball? have u ever watched the lakers int he regular season and playoffs?..i remeber people saying this same thing last year and the cavs didnt even make it to the playoffs. the lakers are still the best team in the nba. and no the majority dont think cleveland is the best team. heck out the polls from fans on cnn sports espn, usatoday. the majority have the lakers as the best team. 3 games weeks apart are different then 3 games in a week. the wear and tear. the experience. anyone who thinks the regular season isnt much different then the playoffs dont know muh about basketball. how about cleveland worry about GETTING to the championship first.
Let me get this outta the way first, Quincey, your a douche...
Noooooooooooo.....I have never watched the Lakers....are you stupid?
Of course things change in the playoffs, but unlike all of you guys are saying I don't see Clevland getting worse or not better by the time playoffs come. You moron.........
ALSO...i remeber people saying this same thing last year and the cavs didnt even make it to the playoffs.????????????HUH cavs didn't make the playoffs last year??????What?
Another thing that proves your ignorance is: "the lakers are still the best team in the nba. and no the majority dont think cleveland is the best team. heck out the polls from fans on cnn sports espn, usatoday. the majority have the lakers as the best team"<-------Tht brilliant quote right there....keep in denial if you want to make yourself believe the Lakers are better than the Cavs(some of You laker fans are dumb, They kick your ass 2 straight times and you still won't give them their due)....Oh and out of the polls from FANS the lakers are the best team....Well sure they are THE FANS voted it...Keep dreaming in lala land while you know that LeBron is the MVP and Clevland is 2up on you...
they didn't kick the lakers ass last night, but i have given them their due as the number one team right now. I still don't think they have as much room to improve come playoff time as the lakers do though.
same thing i heard last year about the cavs and how great they were and there home record. mike you can call names all you want.. thats shows youre ignorence and im too much of a man to play the name calling kids game beause anyone can be a "internet gangsta" and name call. so if it makes u feel better go ahead. but just like i told the other guy ill tell you...win win it counts then talk to me. get out of the eastern conference this time instead of choking when it gets tough in the playoffs. untill ya'll win all of this is just opinions. we are still the champs. and still have the best record and home court advantage through the playoffs at this point. i think i rather have the ring instead of just 2 up on the lakers... yep youre out just like the cavs when they played orlando