favors vs cousins
am i the only one that think cousins will be a better bball player than favors?
if we put aside attitude problems,he is bigger -stronger and most importantly to me he is a better basketball player,i mean his basketball fundamentals-feel and insticts for the game are far better and always will be.ok he cant jump very high but karl malone could?
as for favors by far the most overrated prospect.he is very raw offensively and he lacks fundamentals.
you are making comparisons with a.stoudemire.amare was always agood scorer regardless the competition. favors reminds me more of tyrus thomas. these players can never become good scorers-stars because they dont have that scoring instict. he is a mid lottery pick for me and if he comes out this year he woull spend the first 2 seasons in the d-league.
also i would like to ask to be a little more careful when we compare players who play in easy competition(highschool or even college) with nba stars.for example favors could score 30 per game against highscool kids.(Or g.monroe to p.gasol comparisons are crazy.gasol is one of best top 5 bigs in the world)
"ok he cant jump very high but karl malone could?'
I stopped reading after this. Being a BIG Utah Jazz fan for all my life, I can sincerely say that you are wrong.
OH HOW WRONG ARE YOU!!!!
Your reputation will forever be known to me as, "The Guy Who Doesn't Think Malone was Athletic".
Like that one dude who said Ricky Rubio is "Stockton with more Skills".
Maybe you are the same person.
ok dont get wrong what i said.malone is one of my all time favorites
lets say i meant malone when he was 35 and could still score 25pg(i didnt hint that cousins has k.malones potencial)
and of course i am not the one that said as you say that Ricky Rubio is "Stockton with more Skills
and as you saw to my post i am very sensitive when comparing projects with nba legends and stars
I had hoped that is what you meant. Irregardless, as a Jazz fan, I WILL jump on ANYONE who says Karl "The Mailman" Malone and DeMarcus "i can has cheezburger?" Cousins in the same sentence. It's basically written. I have no choice.
no you are not only! Cousins is beast, and his skills and size shows enormous potential..look at youtube kentucky vs florida highlights..everyone knows he can dunk rebound and use his power, but how about his ball-handling and spin move, plus coach Cal needs him to be the beast under the basket he still hasn't show that he can hit jumper and even 3pointer.
maybe i will get alot of negatives but i will say this- TOP 5 TALENT
and yeahh...Cousins athleticism is not in elite class but it's little underrated..knowing that he is 260-270 HUGE kid he jumps pretty well and run the court well, plus he has huge wingspan which let him dunk block rebound so easily
This is were Production vs Potential comes in
Demarcus Cousins doesnt have nearly the same ceiling that Favors has, but hes very productive, he gets limited playtime, yet still puts up monster stats, he lacks the motor that you'd want in your PF, and maybe the work ethic, so his potential isnt through the roof, hes one of those 'what you see, is what you get' prospect
As for Favors, Gani Lawal has been outplaying him, yet....Gani is a last 1st-2nd round guy, and Favors is top 5 in every mock draft...Why? Potential. Favors has the physical tools to POSSIBLY be great and has shown signs of the Stoudemires/Smiths that he draws comparisons too
Favors won't be in the d-league. If he stays a second year it would help a lot but he probably won't and will go top 10 completely on potential, he will have a couple slow years but by his 3rd year he will be Josh Smith 2.0. What can either favors or smith do besides dunk, rebound decent, and blocks some shoots?
Say what you want about Favors. The reason he's a top 5 pick is because he has alot of potential and a pretty imposing physical stature. He's not where he needs to be skill-wise for an NBA prospect, but the man is a freak athlete and he is already a good rebounder and shot-blocker. Right now he's eerily similar to a shorter DeAndre Jordan, but he could develop into a Amare Stoudemire. He's only in need of polish offensively, he's got NBA type ability everywhere else.
Cousins is better right now, but you'd have to be crzy to think that he has the higher upside between the two. I think Cousins has upside, but it's like of an offensive minded P. He's got alot of Maurreese Speights in him, which means he's an offensive talent and a solid rebounder and finisher, but that isn't near what Stoudemire is. Cousins could very well be better, but if Favors reaches his upside, he won't be.
Favors career would be helped out if such big expectations
werent heaped on him to score
he needs a jump shot A.S.A.P.
and why Favors potential is way biger than Cousins' ? if you agree that he is better now then how Favors could become way better player if DeMarcus develops his range,handling, starts to be agressive and physical in every play..???
So if cousins is better then Favors, then what is up with this site. Why is Cousins so low. He is not even a lottery pick. Maybe because of the school he plays for, then again, this site ranks players based on their skills, and athletic ability. (right there is your answer I believe) Can you say sleeper. Big time sleeper. And to butidonthavemoney, I believe that Malone and Stockton were both sleepers too. Jazz you had better pick him up, (hint, hint i am jazz fan too. I just love Dwill)
Cousins upside is Jermaine O'Neal (current version) impo maybe better jumper?
I dont know why these guys get so much hooplah 4 offense
when defense is atrocious on both sides
Cousins has more length tho defensively, and few bigs can stick the jumper as he
is "reputed" to be able to do
Reason Favors has more potential is because of the physcial attributes...Cousins simply can't jump. Whoever said he is an underrated athlete is wrong. The dude just can't jump. I think Cousins will be a starter in the league, but Favors has all-star potential....He is raw though, no doubting that.
who cares....last year tyreke was low on this site also when he played in memphis, even tyreke won the freshmen of the year award, he still low on this site. they only put tyreke high on this site when they read that most lottery teams interested on tyreke.
the reason why favors always on top 5 on several mock draft sites, is because favors was HS player of the year. i remember last year some mock draft put jrue holiday high also at the begining of the season because hes the HS gatorade player of the year (they change jrue rank from high to low when he drops his scoring to 8 points per game).
last year mock draft: holliday over evans
this year mock draft: favors over cousins
in the end, evans prove them(most mock draft site) wrong
i believe that cousins will prove them wrong too, not only the mock draft sites, also the people on several forums who under estimate him.....
the guy average 15 pts, 9 reb, 2 blk, 54% fg on limited playing time (only 20 mins), im 40 years old and i never seen a player in NCAA or in any league who average 15/9/2 in only 20 minutes. according to coach cal, cousins is a beast. as a freshman he leads the team in rebound and block, his team isnt a so so team (putting good numbers on a bad team), kentucky is a 2nd rank team in a country ....COME ON GUYS!
but on rivals.com cousins rank higher than favors. cousins rank 2nd best prospect behind john wall.
props to rivals.com
im a big fan of jrue and favors in HS, thats why im disapointed on jrue performance last year on his 1st year in college. i feel the same way on favors this year, at the beginning favors performance was ok like jrue at the beginning but now it seems favors numbers starting to drop. common favors its only lawal, youre better than that guy. lawal isnt patrick paterson, shumpert isnt john wall. i wish favors realize his the best player in georgia tech
sorry double post
favors is ranked high because of his potential not because he was highschool player of the year. second iggy in what college game has favors shown hes a freak athlete???...just one game?...the answer is he hasnt. hes a ok athlete but tyrus thomas was alot better at that stage, amare, josh smith. hes not a freak athlete. maybe in practice and highschool but when it comes to games he simple is not a freak athlete. 3rd and better jump shot then jermaine oneal. i dont remeber oneals jump shot but i do know favors jump shot is horrible at this stage. why do you think you rarely ever see it. and i wish people would stop with the amare comparision as far as athleteic ability or josh smith. thats a joke. amare in year one in the nba was banging on peoples heads. josh smith as well. favors is in college and he isnt banging on peoples heads. you never hear people say." man did you see the other night where favors dunked on that guy" ...4th im not a jazz fan but i remeber karl malone and to say he was pretty damn athletic. maybe youre talking about the older malone that was in his last year int he nba. as far as cousins he has very nice skills. i wasnt as high on him in the beginning because of him playing against cup cakes and the fact when he was matched up against uconn and unc big men he couldnt produce liek he could against the cupcakes. but i do recognize the skills that he does have and unlike favors he produces through skill and not just because he's taller or has longer arms then who hes matched up against. i still think he would get worked in the nba because his moves wouldnt work as well against a nba big man but he has alot of potential. players numbers tend to drop when they stop playing the cupcakes and start playing against better competition thats why favors numbers have jumped off a cliff