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Trade idea (beware it involves Harris if Nets get Wall)

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Trade idea (beware it involves Harris if Nets get Wall)

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yl9m3ca

NJ - Makes room for Wall and gets a defensive 3 they will need and get a legit backup big. There a young team that needs time so getting Batum would be a great addition.

IND - Miller fits very well for there style of play and they need a point guard badly

POR - They need a point guard and even though Miller has played great lately but if they decide to move him Harris can possibly play with Roy and fit better. Losing Batum will hurt but they can resign Outlaw and Keep Webster and they will still have Rudy and Bayless as well.

EDIT : This trade takes place after the Nets pick Wall with the 1st pick and free agency is in total effect. Does this change any opinions?


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i like it from indiana's and

i like it from indiana's and portland's perspective. But for new jersey to give up a young all-star caliber pg who is making a modest 8.5 million per year, they would need more then just jeff foster who has a bad contract that still runs through next season and Nicolas Batum who I personally don't think is ever gauranteed of being a consistent starter in this league. Devin harris is worth more then that.

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Im assuming the deal is in the offseason

So Foster would be an expiring contract. Just throwing that out there

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only way

only way that goes down is if NJ gets LBJ

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I don't see the Pacers doing

I don't see the Pacers doing that at all. They are looking to build a young core and Andre Miller doesn't help accomplish that. Also the Pacers offense suits PG'g with 3 point range of which Andre Miller doesn't have much.

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If this was the NFL where

If this was the NFL where having the worst record guarantees you a 1st pick I would do it. But with the draft lottery in effect, if NJ does not get a 1st pick , they would be screwed if they made this trade.

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this would be in the offseason and tj fords contact is up

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I dont like this trade for the Nets or Pacers

Its not bad for the Blazers and I actually made a previous hypothetical trade with just Indiana and NJ involving Harris (in the event the nets get Wall). But its not a good trade for NJ or Indiana.

My trade had the Pacers giving up TJ Ford and his expiring contract and their 2010 lottery draft pick for Devin Harris. I can't "trade-machine" this properly because the trade machine doesn't have draft pick options for trades. However, the trade works for the Pacers because they want TJ Ford gone and desperately need a good point guard--if NJ lands the #1 pick, the pacers will not be able to find that point guard in the draft and would be better off trading that pick for one if they could. While your trade addresses this to some extent it's not ideal for the Pacers.

As I said above, your trade would be good for the Blazers but not so much for the Nets or Pacers. Yes Andre Miller has finally had a good game and people may think he is still decent but the contract he signed last summer with the Blazers is horrible, he is very old (and will continue to decline), and the Pacers need someone young to grow and play with Granger--like Devin--not old like Miller who really would only be an asset to a veteran team where he doesn't need to be the #2 option.

Also Devin isn't as bad as he has been playing. He is young and knows his team is not good enough. Yi cannot defend and stops the offense flow (yes he is a good fourth option when a team moves the ball and he is the open man making the shot, but he doesnt create offense or play defense). The Nets miss Carter and his ability to create. Devin would be amazing with a Brandon Roy or Carter type player but I think he would be even best with Granger. Devin and Granger would be a good start to a talented Pacer team. Also with a progressing Hibbert the Pacers would be better off giving their lottery pick (if they cant make the playoffs) to the Nets for Harris.

For the Nets they get Wall (hypothetically) and another top 2-15 draft pick. It could be Cole Aldrich, Donatas, Wesley, Favors, Ebanks, Turner whoever.. The point is the Nets new owner gets a choice to build his team with whom he likes from a quietly very talented draft class. Also the Nets get Devin Harris' out of there so Wall could develop and TJ Fords expiring contract so they could make a run at Carmelo if they can't get a big time free agent this summer.

The truth is Larry Bird probably doesn't like Harris now that he has been mailing it in lately and may fear his team wont have competitive pieces, but Harris would certainly be a better upgrade than a trade with age old Andre Miller who makes the same amount of money as Harris does.

As for the Blazers future. I think they need to draft another bigman who bangs down low. I don't think they really "need" a point guard unless they find the exact right fit for them via free agency or the pg depleted draft. What I am sure of is that Andre Miller is not a good fit--he is a ball hog and doesn't play D.

I think they can be good with Steve Blake, I don't know why they keep looking elsewhere when higher profile point guards will just take the ball out of Brandon Roys hands. Unless they can magically get Nash, Kidd, Chris Paul or Rondo I am not sure they need a point guard upgrade.

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What if New Jersey got 2 future 1st rounders. 1 from indy the

other from NJ? Indy is a decent point guard away I dont think they'd be too picky about this

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I think they would be happy

I think they would be happy with a top 5 this year or two future draft picks. It just depends on what Happens on draft night. The Nets would make a trade only if they get exactly who they want. There is no rush and may just decide to keep Harris... I personally think they should trade him if they get Wall but yea, 2 picks could do it. Who knows though.

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TJ Ford has a player option

TJ Ford has a player option of 8million he isn't going to get that money anywhere else.

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He seems real unhappy though

He wont be back there regardless

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even though he is stuggling

even though he is stuggling the Nets could get more for harris

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You dont need to get rid of

You dont need to get rid of Harris right away if you get the number one pick. See if it can work first, or if Harris would be willing to come off the bench.

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You dont need to get rid of

You dont need to get rid of Harris right away if you get the number one pick. See if it can work first, or if Harris would be willing to come off the bench.

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