my comparision of some player of 2010 draft
john wall best comparision wade worst comparision derrick rose
evan turner best comparision mo williams worst comparision devuan cook
derrick favors best comparision josh smith worst comparision beasley
donatas montejiunas best andrea bargnani worrst jonas jerebko
wesley johnson bestc bosh worstc marion
vesely jon bestc radmanovic worst garbajosa
aminu bestc tyrus thomas worstc mba a moute
damion james best gerald wallance worst drew gooden
cole aldrich bestc david lee worstcomp nick collison
avery bradley bestc monta ellis worst wilson chandler
Evan Turner Mo Williams are you kidding me? Evan Turner isn't the shooter that Mo Williams is and Turner in all honesty is a better all-around player. His best comparison is Brandon Roy everyone knows this.
Aminu has more range than Tyrus Thomas already, he to me is the Josh Smith comparison.
John Wall - Shiftier Derrick Rose not quite as physical.
Evan Turner - Grant hill back in the day, Better rebounding B-Roy, not quite the shooter
Wesley Johnson- Shawn Marion but has some Granger in him
Derrick Favors- Josh Smith, but not as good
Cole Aldrich- better version of Pryzbilla
Xavier Henry- Glen Rice
Avery Bradley- a less chucking version of monta ellis
Aminu - More Raw version of Luol Deng, but more tools, better athlete than Deng
Ehhhh I don't agree with any of your comparisons. Here's mine:
Notes: NOT Best Case/Worst Case. Comparisons are NOT based on projected sucess in the NBA, just who the prospects play like (i.e. style, skills, athletic ability, etc...).
John Wall - Rajon Rondo/Derrick Rose
Derrick Favors - Alonzo Mourning/Emeka Okafor
Wesley Johnson - Danny Granger/Richard Jefferson ----> (Granger's skill set and style with Jefferson's physical tools and mentality)
Evan Turner - Joe Johnson/Brandon Roy ----> (Less range as of now)
Eddie Davis - ?????? (I've scouted him so much but I can't decide on a good comparison!!!)
Cole Aldrich - Chris Kaman/Andrew Bogut
DeMarcus Cousins - Zach Randolph
Jarvis Varnado - Ronny Turiaf/Chris Anderson
That's all I have right now. I like to be meticulous with my scouting. By the way, I'm really proud of the Wesley Johnson comparison. Haha
John Wall - Dwyane Wade
Derrick Favors - Could be Amare', could be Steven Hunter
Wesley Johnson - Danny Granger/ Shawn Marion
Evan Turner - Brandon Roy
Eddie Davis - Brandan Wright
Cole Aldrich - Joel Pryzbilia
DeMarcus Cousins - Marreese Speights
Jarvis Varnado - Theo Ratliff
Al-Farouq Aminu- Josh Smith (absolute best case) /Luc Richard Mbah a Moute
Jon Scheyer- Chris Quinn with more height
I really, REALLY, hate that Brandon Wright comparison. Wright isn't the rebounder Davis is.
In 27.7 minutes in college, Wright averaged 6.2 rebounds and 1.8 blocks per game. (Freshman year)
In 18.8 minutes in college, Davis averaged 6.6 rebounds and 1.7 blocks per game. (Freshman year)
In 27.9 minutes in college, Davis averages 9.9 rebounds and 2.9 blocks per game. (Sophomore year)
Wright doesn't even compare to Davis when it comes to activity level. Their offensive games are different too. I see how their physical profiles are similar, and how they played for the same school and all, but I REALLY don't like that comparison.
derrick favors -- amare s/kenyon martin
Before I list them; these comparisons aren't meant to imply that player x will have a similar career to player y...
Also.. i see Shawn Marions name a lot in comparison to Wesley Johnson. Not sure how they are similar other then athletically and body wise. Maybe they are similar rebounding wise too. They are both very matrixy i guess...
And Wade is a good comparison for John Wall for they are about the same size and move similarly--also they have that killer instinct. But my list im gonna throw something else out there to chew on. Let me know what you think.
John Wall - (early) Steve Francis but taller, less athletic and less of a ball hog
Derrick Favors - (early) Kenyon Martin but so far less dominant than Kenyon was in college
Wesley Johnson - Chris Douglas-Roberts but much better defensively and more athletic... not as herkey-jerky
Evan Turner - I have heard Grant Hill... I've heard someone say Penny Hardaway too...also every else seems to think he is like Brandon Roy... But I don't... Roy seems more creative and juke-ish than Evan Turner to me... when I watch Evan Turner I see a young Tracy McGrady (without his athleticism and 3 point range obviously).. McGrady and Turner are both silky smooth and have similar style..
Ed Davis - Brandon Bass but less polished than Bass... btw why isn't Bass starting next to Howard on the Magic???
Cole Aldrich - Brook Lopez but with Chris Kaman's shot mechanic
DeMarcus Cousins - Andrew Bynum but all around not as good or smart... they both are lazy though..
Jarvis Varnado - never seen him play...
Al-Farouq Aminu- only seen highlights... maybe Loul Deng?
Jon Scheyer- JJ Redick without the proficiency, range, speed, aggressiveness, and pedigree
Evan Turner reminds me a little bit of Paul Pierce. Both are at their best when they iso at the top and either go pick n roll or just break their man down. They both make good decisions and are both pretty strong and physical. Turner's going to be a good player in the NBA if he is the right situation. He's alot like Roy as well. Although I think Roy is a better shooter. Something that Turner can add I would think.
The Wesley Johnson to Danny granger just doesn't make sense to me. Granger is one of the best scorers in the NBA and he scores in alot of different ways. He posts up, he slashes, he can handle the ball, and he can shoot it. He's also like 6'9 230. Johnson is like 30 pounds lighter. He also doesn't seem to have the offensive repertoir that Granger does. While I do think Johnson will be a good player in the NBA, i just don't see him being a go to scorer. He looks like a guy who will make his mark on defense and in transition. I could see him being a 12 to 15 ppg scorer. the best comparison i can think of would be a poor mans Richard Jefferson.
Some guy compared Avery Bradley to a less chucking version of Monta Ellis...but isn't that what makes Monta Ellis Monta Ellis. Thats what Monta Ellis is known for...chucking alot. Thats like saying a less rebounding version of Dwight Howard. It just doesn't make sense. I think Bradley is a hard comparison, I would've said Russel Westbrook based on athleticism and defense. But Bradley's been better at shooting than I anticipated. So I can't really think of a comparison right now. I have to see him play more. He definitly aint Monta Ellis.
I also don't see why Derrick Favors gets so much hype. In the few games I've watched Georgia Tech, he's done nothing. I get that he's 6'9, he can jump, he can run, and he's got a good frame, but honestly I haven't seen a lick of skill whatsoever. If he's not catching and dunking, he cant do anything. Why the amazing hype? I guess he's young and I suppose he's got some potential, but he's got alot of developing to do, and I could easily see him busting as easily as him being successful. I'm not a big fan. But he is young so and I haven't seen all their games so maybe I just catch him on bad days.
avery bradley to wilson chandler was laughable.
gcb3 Bass isn't starting or even playing because they like to keep rashard lewis at the 4 and ryan anderson has played great this year.
It was a rhetorical question...
But since you mentioned it. Let me expound on why that type of lineup and strategy is good:
The Magic have not quite figured it out but I think they will come to realize their best lineup would be to have Rashard Lewis at the 3 with Bass starting and Anderson splitting the minutes at the four.
Certain matchups will have to make Carter (when he is healthy...) slide to defend 3s instead of 2s but that would be adjusted within a game. And until then, Carter could be a 2, Lewis a 3, Bass a 4, and Dwight a 5.
The reasoning behind this is that starting a physical front court of Bass and Dwight would put pressure on opposing teams and they could get foul calls and put pressure on the defense. For instance if your strategy is to open up the floor (this is the Magic's strategy--this is why they put Lewis at the 4) nothing opens up the floor more for drives and kickouts more than opposing teams' bigmen not playing hard D because of foul trouble--or second best, opposing teams' backup bigs trying to defend Jameer and Carter.
Its a different philosophy than stretching the floor with big shooters but not too different. The large 6'10 Lewis is a 3 point threat still and will keep the spacing and defenses honest, and the pick and roll with Bass is effective too. As for Anderson I think Orlando (and the rest of the nation) will soon see his faults. He isn't as efficient as a scorer as you think. I watch almost 65 games with him when he was on the Nets (and 15 or so with him on the Magic)--he has faults.
Regardless of Anderson and his minutes and whether he is great, good, or just ok, at the end of the day the Magic can still play their shooters the same minutes they would be playing. The exception is if Bass were to start, his minutes would increase while possibly trickling down the line to spare VC a little for the playoffs so he is fresh and more explosive--i mean, isnt that why they got VC, to be a finisher in tight games in the playoffs?
Bottom line, I think Bass needs minutes to be productive and his productivity will be far more beneficial than Anderson, Matt Barnes, or maybe even JJs (all have gotten starts before Bass has). Bass puts pressure on teams. Shooting players (whether they are big or small) don't--but they are pretty nice to have coming off the bench.
I don't know. If I did I would probably be coaching at a higher level. And I have only been coaching for 5 seasons. If I knew the intricacies of that team in practice and whatnot i would know better but I dont so I can't really say VanG is doing anything wrong. I mean they went to the finals after all!
most of the comparisons u made of upcoming rookies were to rookies this year or players that definately havent reached their potential... stupid post..
not to mention the bottom comparison best monta ellis worst wilson chandler.... how in any way are those two players alike AT ALL...
"DeMarcus Cousins - Zach Randolph/Kendrick Perkins"
I really like this one! Good call!
John Wall- pg's D Wade maybe some Marbury
Evan Turner-less athletic iggy offcourse Roy is also good one
Wesley Johnson-Shawn Marion
Derrick Favors-bigger H.Warrick
DeMarcus Cousins- bigger R.Wallace
Avery Bradley- i see him becoming scorer i see Monta stealing over 2stls , I like this comparisons.
Xavier Henry-taller Eric Gordon?(underrated athlete, super sized,perfect shooter but can get to the rim)
Ed Davis-young Marcus Camby/B.Wright
Greg Monroe- somewhere between Webber and Bosh
Renardo Sidney-another unique one enough, but i like somewhere between Webber and Zach
Damion James-Shawn Marion
Patrick Patterson- David West
To the person who said he'll be a 12-15 pt player, and called him a poor mans rich jefferson.
You're selling him short, he will be great in the nba. He can play defense, has a 42 inch vert, can score the ball, and rebound the piss out of it.
At syracuse they play a very team oriented game, they get everyone involved, from Jardine, to Jackson, to Rautins and others. This dude is a very smooth player, and will even be better in the NBA.
No reason he can't end up like a Marion in his prime, and approach Granger status. His numbers this year, are almost identical to Grangers last year at New Mexico, like VERY CLOSE in just about every category. He's every bit the shooter Granger is, and a better athlete, but Granger does have some height and bulk on him.
Xavier Henry-paul pierce
A. Bradley-Monte Ellis
D. Ebanks- Rudy Gay
G. Monroe- Bosh
Cousins- Rasheed Wallace
John Wall - Derrick Rose (more fineness)
Wesley Johnson - more athletic Danny Granger
Evan Turner - Anfernee Hardaway
Donatas Motiejunas - Dirk Nowitzki
Xavier Henry - Allan Houston
Devin Ebanks - Jamal Mashburn
DeMarcus Cousins - Marreese Speights
Solomon Alabi - Roy Hibbert
Dexter Pittman - Marc Gasol
Larry Sanders - Tyrus Thomas
Damion James - Shawn Marion
Craig Brackins - Jason Thompson
Larry Sanders - Tyrus Thomas
according to you guys, Evan Turner seems to be all over the board. I haven't seem him play yet, but if comparisons like a yuong Grant Hill and Penny hardaway or Brandon Roy are true, then this dude is something special.
John Wall- I don't see Wade, I don't see Rose. He isn't big. The 6'4" listing is probably a good deal off. My guess is he'll be measured below 6'2" w/o shoes less than 6'3" with. He also doesn't have a thick frame like those guys. I think he will be great, but more like Monta Ellis.
Evan Turner- The kind of point forward that was all the rage in the 1990s. He is reminiscent of Steve Smith. I don’t think he will be a franchise player, but a really solid 2nd or 3rd option.
Greg Monroe- I love a good, skilled unselfish big man who can pass the ball. They are completely useless on dysfunctional teams, but good teams love them as is the case with Pau Gasol. It was the case of Vlade. It has been the case with Rasheed. I don’t see a lot of guys in this draft who I think will be All-Stars, basically the list ends at Wall, Turner, Henry, and Monroe. If he slips, GMs will get fired. This guy might not pack on empty numbers because he is so unselfish, but I want that guy if I want to build a winner.
Xavier Henry- Smooth shooter with solid NBA body, and one of the lowest risks in the draft. He could easily be another Michael Redd.
Cole Aldrich- Andrew Bynum
DeMarcus Cousins- Kendrick Perkins with better range.
Wes Johnson- Prototypical combo forward with good length to offer a lot of options defensively and an ability to hit the 3 and crash the glass on offense. I'm thinking somewhere in the Marvin Williams/Matt Barnes realm.
Devin Ebanks- Stephen Jackson. I have the same worries about entering the league before he is mature enough to handle it, but if he gets it could be fantastic.
Derrick Favors- I still think he is on the Blake Griffin curve. If he stays in school for his sophomore year, I think he will have a similar emergence. If he leaves, I would not expect him to have much of an immediate impact but
Willie Warren- J.R. Smith
Al-Farouq Aminu- Wilson Chandler
Avery Bradley- better defensive Leandro Barbosa or more athletic Kirk Hinrich.
Ed Davis- If he packs on a little muscle, I think he will be another Joe Smith. If not, Tony Battie. I think he has the ability, maturity, and professionalism to have a career, but I’m not sure he’ll live up to where he will likely get taken. I don’t like the frame so I do have concern about the lack of muscle.
Donatas Motiejunas- Ersan Ilyasova, same worry about coming over before he is ready. I’m not sure a team that would take him in the lottery would take the same approach the Bucks did with Ilyasova.
Lance Stephenson- Larry Hughes
Patrick Patterson- The shine from John Wall is apparently helping his draft status, but he is still a 6’7 power forward. Leon Powe before the knee injury.
Darington Hobson- Boris Diaw
Stanley Robinson- Darius Miles
Craig Brackins- Ryan Anderson
Solomon Alabi- Steven Hunter, I don’t see much there beyond a big long body who can get up and down the floor.
Jarvis Varnado- Louis Amundson
i think the worst case senerio for these guys are wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy to high. and favors worst case is beasley?...are you kidding me?...i like JayK21 and some of the others except the people ya'll are naming for favors are more -alot more athletic then he is. amare,tyrus,warrick. and alot more agressive. all those guys where banging on peoples heads in college. amare as a rookie in the nba. i dont think favors has even dunked on anyone yet nor dunk as much ..ive seen gani on the other hand throw own during his freshman year on peoples heads
Gani Lwal was also more unpolished than Favors was as a freshman (hard to imagine huh?). But he was. He was extremely raw and didn't provide anything but fouls and hustle baskets...Favors is alot farther along than Lawal was at the same stage.
i know but the comparisions that are with favors are all very athletic. much more so then he is. and the gani thing was about athletic not skill or production