PF/C means you can defend both positions
Is San Antonio Spurs All-Star Tim Duncan a Center or a Power Forward in the 2007-08 NBA Basketball Season?
Who cares eh?
Well, with the All-Star game approaching as the midway point of the 2007-08 NBA basketball season sets in, people voting for the starting lineup in the Western Conference cares. (Probably…)
Why? Because we all know TD plays center for the Spurs and yet, if he’s listed as one, Houston Rockets center Yao Ming will beat him in the All-Star balloting for the starting spot in the West. That’s probably why he’s listed at power forward and there’s where the controversy start.
I know, that’s probably a little lame but hey, work with me here. Another reason why Tim Duncan is a center listed as a power forward is primarily because of the fact that the Spurs had All-Star center David Robinson playing then when Duncan entered the league.
The team called Tim Duncan as its power forward, playing alongside center David Robinson. But when ‘the Admiral’ finally retired, the San Antonio Spurs still had Duncan listed at forward.
Hell, even when he starts with smaller guys trying to play center for his team like, say, Fabricio Oberto, Duncan still spends most of his time defending the paint and guarding the opposing team’s center.
Very very VERY center-like.
Other players that have the exact same thing are guys like Jermaine O’Neal, Antonio McDyess, Amare Stoudemire and of course, Rasheed Wallace. So how come this is slowly becoming quite a strange trend in the NBA?
For one, players find the definition of a center as the team’s unusually tall player. In short, the team’s circus freak. That’s probably why Kevin Garnett (and a whole lot of players…) still is listed at 6-11 when in fact, they are really towering seven-footers.
So is Tim Duncan a power forward or a center? I’ll tell you one thing, he’s a POWER FORWARD right now who has always been at the CENTER of attention in Texas
screw tim duncan...SHAQ's the man
Hes a center if you guard the other teams center and he guards you, i dont see how you cant be listed as one, you cant tell me that kurt thomas or some1 is the center over hiim its just stupid. When ppl say hes the best pf of all time i say no because for the last few years of his career hes been playing center, just like how KG played Sf early on in his career and later began to play pf, they are 2 of the best big men of all time subjecting them to one position is kinda a shot at them and just makes it easier for us to put people into classes.
The job of a center defensively is different from the PF because the center's job is to protect the middle, which is why they guard the other team's best post player. They want that guy to be close to the hoop to not only block shots (guys do that from flying in from the weakside) but alter decision making. You don't get that from Matt Bonner or Andrea Bargnani. The reason guys like Sheed, Garnett, and Jermaine O'Neal wanted to be power forwards for much of their career was that when they entered the league being a center meant guarding young, in his prime, Shaq. Nobody wanted that. Well, Shaq is half of what he used to be, and while Dwight Howard is a load he is also about 50 lbs. lighter (much less force coming at you) than Shaq was in his prime. Shaq completely changed the center landscape, but now that he is near the end guys aren't afraid to be in the middle.
how is it that so many guys on here seem to know why a player do what they do or what they are thinking?..lol..i can understand people saying they think this is why a player says or does this but i always laugh when somene says they know what a player is thinking
There were a million articles about the dearth of centers when Shaq was in his prime, and everyone (coaches, players, and scouts) talked about young American players not wanting to take the punishment from the post (i.e. Shaq).
i dont recall any one of the centers saying they dont wanna play center because there are so many good centers so how can you say thats what they said ?..find me something stateing the players saying thats why they dont wanna play center. this is youre opinion about them not wanting to play center not facts that have come from there mouth
and speaking as a basketball player i always love checking the best player. even if they are big or strong or unguardable. when youre young you are scared but you always wanna prove that you are as good as peole think and better. you want the challenge. if i was a center and in the nba id want to guard shaq. yeah hes big and strong and i prob would get hurt but you dont go into games thinking that. just like in football you dont go in thinking you dont wanna continue to play running back because you are gonna get hit. plyers go into games thinking they are the best even if they arent. i remember on tnt when tnt was talking about dirk beause he said some player was better then him and kenny smith and charles barkley said they always feel they are the best players on the floor. thats the mentality you go in with you dont go in thinkin..." man i hope i dont have to guard this or that guy"
"Shaq completely changed the center landscape, but now that he is near the end guys aren't afraid to be in the middle."
Lebron as well impo for SFs
quincey there is 100s of articles about Garnett saying he's
6'11 bcuz he doesnt want the coach to play him at center
a tall PF gives you an advantage on the boards see Gasol v Rashard 2009 Finals
the best PF-C combo
is Garnett and Perkins more height defense and rebounding = 2008 championship
theres isnt one article where kg says he doesnt wanna play center because of shaq or some other guy. he didnt wanna play center because he didnt wanna be a strictly bask to the basket player...big difference and ill gladly agree with you if you find me this article where kg is saying he doesnt wanna play center because of shaq or all the other good centers. and since there are so many you should be able to find one
LENBIAS- I'm sure Floyd Mayweather would say he can fight someone who weighs 200 lbs. but it would be different if someone asked him to do it he did it once and knew what it was like. Shaq was something the league never saw before. He was 350 lbs and was coordinated, he could run and jump. Most guys were giving up between 50-120 lbs. to this guy. Having pride is one thing, and it is certainly worthy of respect for those who did battle Shaq, but lets be realistic. The talented 7-footers of a generation did want to be power forwards largely because of Shaq's impact. It wasn't just the games in which they played Shaq, but the impact he had on rosters. Teams had to have a 300 lbs. banger whether he was any good or not. There was a legion of Nate Jawai's on teams (Greg Ostertag, Big Country Reeves, the Candy Man, Andrew Lang, Luc Longley Jake Tsakalidis, etc) and the league let players bang down low. It isn't something I'm making up. It happened.
yeah thats an OPINION and youre intitled to it but to say thats what the player said or thats what the player is think isnt true because you dont know what the player is thinking.. neither do i so none of us can say for sure. all we can do is guess what a player is thinking which is fine. none of us are charles xavier or jean grey though so we dont know for sure what any of the players are thinking. all we can do is guess
i used to play center
if KG played center in his prime he would lose any size advantage he has at the PF spot
Offense: A prototypical modern day power forward. Able to create his own shot with ease from the high post with great jab-steps and nifty ball-handling skills, and even handle the ball and ignite the offense in the open floor. Has an outstanding pull-up jumper, but tends to settle for it at times, particularly when driving left. Terrific touch on his mid-range jumper, complete with a high release point that makes it impossible to block. Has streaky range all the way out the NBA 3-point line. Also a terrific presence in the post. Has an outstanding right-handed jump-hook shot. Slithers his shot off thanks to quickness and terrific feel. Too quick, TALL and fluid for most POWER FORWARDS to handle. Very explosive off feet. One of the best finishers in the NBA. A fantastic passer as well—makes lightning quick decisions with ball in hands and has terrific court vision while seeing the entire floor. Particularly notable for his post-entry passing. Basketball IQ is generally extremely high.
Defense: Arguably the best defensive big man in the NBA. Possesses amazing physical tools to get the job done, and combines that with unrivaled intensity. Size and length gives him an incredible advantage contesting shots inside the post and on the perimeter, and agility and quickness allow him to maneuver around the floor with ease. Hedges screens and recovers effectively thanks to his excellent footwork. Takes an incredible amount of pride in shutting his matchup down, and is a huge presence as a team defender as well. Infectious energy makes it impossible for teammates not to compete just as hard alongside him. Sometimes lets his emotions get the best of him.
if he played center he would not be able to be a playmaker unless they played 5 out
and added another shooter at the 4 ala Rashard Lewis
thats something we all know..doesnt have anything to do with hearing a guy say something that you think he is thinking...im just waiting on where he said he didnt wanna play center because he didnt wanna guard all these good big man. you show me that link and ill be more then happy to agree with it