I'm on the fence because of the deal I heard. ESPN reported it will have to involved all of the players on this list ( if McGrady nor Battier is not in the deal)
Scola, Landry, Brooks, Ariza
No offense, unless Bosh is gonna SIGN a extension when he gets to Houston- I won't do it.
Let's say that do this deal. Scola, Landry, Brooks, Ariza for Bosh and maybe Marcus Banks. Toronto istantly becomes the 4th best team in the East and are probably gonna be able to slap around Orlando and Cleveland with their depth. Houston? You get Chris Bosh but that's it. Unless you have that Philly deal that I heard toss around ( McGrady for Iguadala, Young and Dalembert) or the even the Knicks offer ( McGrady for Harrington, Chandler and Jefferies) It will hurt Houston
If I'm Houston... I do this deal. Bosh will re-sign. He's from Texas. If Yao returns healthy next season, I think he and Bosh would be a problem for teams. I really believe playing with a big like Yao would take Bosh's game to the next level.
Somebody is going to bite on that McGrady contract too. It'll probably take until the trade deadline to get something done, but somebody is going to bite. I think they have the opportunity to get back an established player, some young pieces or a first round pick.
Scola and Landry are nice post players, and Ariza is a good hustle player who can score a little. Bosh is a superstar who can play with Houston's supporting cast. He also would play well with Yao as Bosh shoots threes and spends time on the perimeter. Bosh would give Houston a go-to guy on offense.
Here's the rosters for both teams if the Bosh deal went down.
Toronto ( I would feel this would be a scary team)
Calderon- Ariza- Hedo- Scola- Barganani ( Starters)
Brooks- Jack- DeRozan- Landry- Evans-Rasho ( Subs)
Lowry-Battier- Budinger- Bosh- Anderson ( Starters)
Taylor- Hayes- McGrady? ( Subs)
that would be a gamble for houston, giving up your 4 best players for one superstar. it could work though whenever yao comes back, but they are in a position to make the playoffs so its a major gamble to make this trade at this point.
Who knows what they'll get for McGrady at the deadline though... As that deadline approaches teams will get desperate for McGrady's expiring contract.
I know but I'm going on what if they get nothing for McGrady.... which is possible.
It's possible, but not likely... McGrady will be moved at that deadline... Teams that are desperate to get under the cap or free up money for the summer of 2010 will bite lol. It's just a matter of time.
Houston's GM is smart. He's got the hook bated and sitting in the pond right now... Reeling it in. He's no dummy. He'll get back something for McGrady's contract and it won't be something small.
Yea but I also heard he does offer some terrible trade deals ( ESPN Insiders)
I hope they do the Knick deal for obvi reason
I wouldnt mind this trade if we knew Yao was coming back 100% healthy, but his future health is still in question. And say Yao still can't play properly next season I believe with this roster they will struggle to fight in the West, but we don't know what will happen with free-agency and the draft. Bosh said he wanted to play for a playoff contender but this with trade, it's gonna be really difficult for that Houston roster with Bosh to make some noise or even getting in the post-season. I think giving up those four players is a lot for Bosh but it is understandable since Bosh is superstar type of player. I like this trade for the same reasons other people do, but at the same time I don't like this trade. This trade takes away from Houston's depth, solid players in their whole roster, they have multiple amount of role players that play very well within the system and know what they must do in order to win. This takes away from Toronto's only "superstar" Bosh can be #1 option player but I believe he is better #2 but that is a different conversation. Toronto's roster will be filled with depth and role players but do they have that real #1 player now? Who will fill that role? They lack the superstar I feel that they need to really to go to the next level. In end though I think this trade will benefit both teams since they seem "stuck?" They both are solid teams but nothing special yet, maybe these trades can help.
I like the trade with Houston and Toronto a little bit. Houston would either have to trade McGrady for a point guard, 2 and or backup center/PF in a separate deal. Or bring McGrady back to the team and have him in the line up.
I still think Lowry is better as a backup and they would need another bigman regardless.
For Toronto its good but value. I don't think he'll resign with them anyway and they add more quickness and finally some defense and toughness. If they gel quickly they can be a 4 or 5 seed. I would start Brooks over Calderon though.
Now as a Knicks fan I would hate a trade of McGrady for Harrington, Chandler and Jefferies. Im not giving up Chandler unless they take Curry contract. As long as they are in contention for playoff spot, they cant trade their young/cheap starting 2, starting PF/C and their 6th man whos is their best scorer.
Now I would do a 3 way trade of:
McGrady and Brian Cook to NY
Ariza, Scola, Landry, Brooks to Toronto
Bosh, Curry, Chandler, Mobley contract (80% covered by insurance)
Too many players moving around for playoff bound teams. (yes I think NY can be a 7th or 8th seed) so I don't think it will happen but it could work.
Houston would get the player they were going to target in the offseason anyway so the Curry contract wont kill them or prevent them from that. Plus he would be good insurance and back up for Yao next year. Plus Bosh can decide not to opt out and resign the following year for more money and allow Houston to sign another role player this off season. Curry inside and Bosh outside would compliment each other offensively and on defense Bosh can rebound and block shots which Curry can't do.
Scola, Landry, Evans
Duhon, Nate, Douglas
Jefferies, Bender (other Landry)
All teams will still be playoff caliber teams this year and still be in position to do what they want to do next year. Doubt it will happen but doable and of course as a NY fan I would love for them to be able to get rid of Curry contract even if it means giving up Chandler.
If Jose started over brooks, that would be stupid.
Brooks is better.
I like the trade for both teams though;
Jose won't lose his job to someone off a trade.
Plus, he knows the O better.
First of all, Jose doesnt start now.
So i dont get that, Jack would start.
Hes playing better, and their winning.
And Brooks is starting in Houston and having a breakout season for a playoff team.
Im not sure he'd want to come off the bench
Calderon was hurt if I was correct.
If not- Then I still think Calderon should start and keep Brooks as a change of pace G off the bench.
Players usually don't lose their jobs because of injury. They lose it because of trades all the time. Calderon looked promising 2 years ago but he's been garbage this year and his play has been off since since last year. Brooks is the better player right now. So if that trade went down Brooks should start no matter how much more money Jose is making.
Thank you for agreeing with me
But yes, he was hurt.
And Jack became the starter and they have been winning way more games with him as the starter, therefore he will remain the starter.
Unless this trade happens of course, then they have 3 starter caliber PGs
Thats too Much Talent Houston is throwing away.......This will never happen
Hey, dude who posted this....You said "ESPN reported it will have to involved all of the players on this list ( if McGrady nor Battier is not in the deal) Scola, Landry, Brooks, Ariza"
Thats B.S...They have no clue who would be involved in the trade for Houston...And they said that they think Bosh would resign because of ALL THE YOUNG PIECES they have....If they traded all their young pieces, WHY THE HELL WOULD BOSH RESIGN?....He wouldn't, so they would just give up their whole team for nothing.....
Lol....Not only ESPN.
Hoopsworld, RealGm and other sites are reporting similar things.
I also love how people bang on ESPN. They have the most insight out of anyone in the media.