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Houston going after Bosh?

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/63905/20100108/houston_willin...

I'm guessing T-Mac will have to be apart of this trade. I don't see it happening really. Raptors are starting to pull together and I think in the end they will make the playoffs and Bosh will want to stay! But if it doesn't happen what can you guys see Houston offering to Toronto to acquire Bosh?


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For Bosh....

What I'm thinking is... Toronto gets rid of Bosh AND Turkoglu's bad contract AND Marcus Banks' in exchange for T-Mac's Contract, Ariza, Brooks, and Landry, Budinger,

It would look something like this:

To Toronto:
McGrady (expiring 23 mill)
Ariza (at 6-7 million for next 3 years, great value for top notch defender)
Brooks (1 mill for next year as well)
Budinger (3 year rookie contract under 1 mill; has dece potential)
Landry (Expiring 3 mill contract, could complement Bargnani well in future, potentially)

To Houston:
Bosh (apparently Rockets think they can resign Bosh. Could form Texas Twin Towers 2.0 with Yao, creating the most skilled big man pair since Robinson/ Duncan)
Banks (Toronto wants to get rid of a bad contract at 4.5 mill for another year)
Turkoglu (Toronto will want to have the flexibility for 2010 if they get rid of Bosh)

After trade...
Houston has the Biggest, most feared (and most double teamed) front court in the West with Turkoglu, Bosh, and Yao for the next few years. They'll most likely drop to low lottery with this trade due to lack of depth. They'll give the reigns to Lowry at the point. and draft a solid wing next year in what's looking like a rather deep draft of wings (Evans, W. Johnson, Aminu, Ebanks, X. Henry, etc). Houston will milk that big lineup and try to add some pieces around those three guys. IFFF Yao stays healthy, they could be competing for home court advantage in the West in a few years, once they add a few shooters.

Toronto will have everyone from the trade except Landry and McGrady (thank GOD) next year. Toronto will probably still make the playoffs this year. This summer, with McGrady's and Landry's, and Amir Johnson's, Nesterovic's, AND Wright's contracts expiring, the Raps will have about 19 MILLION DOLLARS IN CAP SPACE, AND STILL HAVE 10 PLAYERS UNDER CONTRACT FOR 2011!!. They can probably sign a top notch Player such as J.Johnson, Amare, Nowitzki, etc and join elite status next season with an INCREDIBLY deep backcourt (Calderon, Jack, AND Brooks) AS WELL AS WING (Ariza, DeRozan, Belinelli, AND Budinger). Front court could be an issue, 19 MILL of free agency money should turn the front court into Bargnani, Boozer/Nowitzki/Amare, Evans, and a few subs.

The Best Part for Toronto is.... Now they have 3 Legit Starting Point Guards with GOOD TO GREAT contracts. The Raps will definitely include a third team in the deal so that they can give up 1 of those guys for an expiring contract or a good role player and pick(s).

I think this trade is fair for both teams as I can almost GUARANTEE that both teams will play better next year and 2/3 years down the road baring crazy injuries (that means you, Yao)

thoughts?

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While this trade makes sense

While this trade makes sense with the cap, it will not happen simply because that is a trade that would happen in the off-season. Big Trades happen in the offseason because then the players can come into training camp w/o any chemistry problems.

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Except this trade couldnt

Except this trade couldnt happen in the offseason because the two biggest components are thought to become free agents.

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I know that, but I mean when

I know that, but I mean when a trade of this caliber would happen it would happen in the offseason.

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Re: Mkadoza

Yeah, the huge issue with anything involving Bosh/ McGrady is that it would have to be within 40 days from now. I mean, once this trade goes down, does either team still want to fool themselves and say that they're still playing for contention this year? Of course not. The remaining 30 games will allow the players involved in this trade to get solid game time with their new team mates so that next year, there's no long adjustment period like with this year's Raps. Honestly being a Raps fan, I'm more excited for the Rockets in this trade because I seriously want to See Yao, Bosh, and Turkoglu on the court at the same time. That'd be insane trying to defend the Turkoglu/ Bosh and Turkoglu/Yao pick and roll. absolutely impossible to stop that frontcourt, especially if Adelman can put instill a Triangle offense with Bosh/ Yao/ Turkoglu.

Can you say unstoppable?

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There's no way Rockets are

There's no way Rockets are trading Brooks/Ariza/Landry

The Rockets are already deferring to play McGrady because the team has great chemistry without him, trading those 3 core players would just mess up the chemistry :\

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Re: D7H7N

In all frankness, you can't seriously believe that the Rockets' goal for the long term is to just get a low playoff seed every year for the foreseeable future. I mean, that's all that that group can achieve. It's a well Known fact that only teams with at least TWO Big Star can contend for anything in the West. With Bosh, they get a top 3 PF in the League to pair with Yao. That way, they'd at least be able to have a chance in the competitive West if they want to aim Championship.

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hmm

i think the rockets would reather keep those guys together, because they are playing well together, and then just try to sign bosh in the off season. Houston has a good chance to sign bosh because he is from texas, houston would have a very good playoff team, and they will have the money to throw at him.

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Dude. Look at the contracts. Houston's gonna have 8 players under contract next year, and only about 11 mill in cap space, assuming that they resign NO ONE AT ALL. That's not nearly enough for Bosh, or any of the other big names. they're going to at least need 15 if they want to add a star in the off season and add solid role players to fill the 12 man roster with non-minimum players

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highway robbery ala Gasol to

highway robbery ala Gasol to Lakers
if Yao is healthy

Raptors would essentially be handing a championship to the Rockets
without improving their rebounding issues

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I understand the logic of

I understand the logic of pushing for big trades can boost a team into the playoffs, and I'm not doubting your opinion. Realistically, it's just that the Rockets would never pull off this move, even if they COULD become a title contender in the next few years with this trade, that slim chance is certainly not worth the risk. The Rockets are already surprising us this year with a team of hard workers. This would also make the Rockets organization seem like hypocrites; they're already not playing McGrady because their team has been playing well together. Trading away a rookie, a player they signed in this past off-season, one of the best 6th-man in league, and a PG that's having a break out year for Bosh and 2 overpaid players would question the credibility of the guys behind the Rockets organization and set them back a few years if things turn out wrong.

Remember this is a Rockets team that was able to take the Lakers to 7 games during the playoffs last year with and without Yao Ming.

Edit: I also forgot to mention Turkoglu is NOT leaving Toronto. He signed their for a reason; one of them is because his wife loves it there.

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Remember this is a Rockets

Remember this is a Rockets team that was able to take the Lakers to 7 games during the playoffs last year with and without Yao Ming.

Artest and Ariza swapped teams remember

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Ariza is practically playing

Ariza is practically playing the same role Artest did with the Rockets. Both are great perimeter defenders who can knock down the 3.

Ariza is also chucking from downtown exponentially just like what Artest did last year /joke.

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