you know something the more i watch the knicks the more impressed i have recently become. i noticed that d'antoni has changed the offense to a less up and down and try to out score team to a lets sore but lets also play D. i must admit they are truely not as bad as i once thought they were. its sad that the contract of jefferies and curry is holding them back and that harrington will be gone and lee will ask for and get over paid by another team. i think wit there money problems that they have some years to go before getting to the level of a cleveland unless they get a max player like wade or lebron but its not impossible to see them in the playoffs next year and possibly this year int he weak east. the bench will be a big problem next year though unless toney douglas and hill get alot better. a pick up of jordan farmar and duhon going to the bench would be a very good idea next year since he wont command much money
I think they have to find a way to keep Lee and they defenitely need to get Duhon to the bench. Nate has been a spark plug and the guys are playing good hard team ball. Big win for them tonight.
i agree.. lee is the key ( nice ) but lee is gonna ask for more then hes worth and some dumb team will over pay to get him because thee is always one team willin gto do that
true, i see teams being smarter with their money this year, but like ben gordon said last off-season when he turned down the bulls offer "all it takes is one team".
something interesting is there will be a long jame if they get a sf who cant play pf or sg full time because gallinari isnt a pf
I agree, Look at the Knicks roster, this is a talented team that should be in the top 8 in the East
Chandler is great really talented....If they are completely invested in rebuilding, maybe that should trade him for a 1st round draft pick or a good guard
Galinari is showing the talent they expected and is really turning out to be a good draft pick
Harrington is really good, I hope he comes back to the Knicks next year....If he would play for mid level exception, he could be the Robin the Lebrons Batman, I think he can be a very good 2 on a championship team, his scoring ability is awesome
Nate should be traded now while his value is high after that 41 outburst
Lee should be too, were not gonna resign him
So playoffs with team are a very good possibiltiy, but with the direction this team is going in, this could be a completely different team
Why would u trade Chandler for a 1st round pick, he's starting to play a lot better now.
Don't be surprised to see Lee return.
Jeffires is rumored to be traded it should happen before the deadline to a team thats already capped out for 2010 free agency.
I agree knicks should have no problem keeping lee if they trade jeffries, which is actually not looking as impossible as it did a month ago. Jeffries has actually been a big part of our turn around and even though i have been one of the biggest jeffries haters in the past, is really starting to grow on me. If not for the whole cap situation I would gladly keep him on this team.
yeah he plays really hard, but i guess thats a good thing because he was never in our plans....Orlando should pick him up
The way the Knicks are playing is the situation that the Nets desperately want to be in.
Lets look at the things that the Knicks have that the Nets don't.
1. A permanent head coach, not a GM filling the position
2. A market that's bigger and already there, unlike the proposed move to Brooklyn that may not happen
3. A shooter like Danillo Gallinari
All these are possible factors for leading free agents to the big apple over New Jersey IMO. Yes, both teams have a lot of money that's going to be freed up, yes they are both going to be very active this summer in the free agent market. But I am inclined to think that a free agent would rather sign with the Knicks at this point because the Nets not only are playing like garbage but have a lot of questions going into the off-season, the biggest one being that potential coaching vacancy
i say trade jeffries to orlando for gortat or bass(if they are willing and can get a pick or something in return). Gortat would be a good fit for this team as just a big strong defensive bigman. If they get Bass, they could let Lee walk. Bass isn't as good but has a midrange game and hustles just as hard. Let's say the get Bass in a trade and Lebron in the offseason. Bring back duhon(3.5 to 4 mil per). Let Harrington walk for cap reasons. Then try to bring in a solid starting C like brendan haywood(6.5 mil per) for defense and rebounding. after that there is only room to bring in minimum contracts.
Possible players and salaries for knicks in 2010 estimated cap of 53.5mil
Tony Douglas- 1 mil
Jordan hill - 2.5 mil
Eddy Curry - 11.5 mil(Ouch, maybe they can get a little production from him, it would be nice.)
Lebron james - 16 mil
Chris Duhon - 3.5 mil
Brandon Bass - 4 mil
Danilo Gallinari - 3.5 mil
brendan Haywood - 6.5 mil
Wilson chandler - 2 mil
That is 50.5 mil there leaving 3 mil to sign 6 minimum players( Average 500k each)
So they can be a solid team next year. But will solid be good enough for lebron to come to NY?
After that season, Curry comes off the books leaving alot of room for a borderline grat player or a couple very good players.
The future isn't too dim for the Knicks but they are still atleast 2 years away from Championship caliber team if good fortune is on their side.
They are playing good team ball right now and are in the playoff hunt. As much as I hate Jefferies offensive game (I was dead serious when I said I would fine him for just thinking about shooting) he does bring intangibles that no other player on the roster can bring right now. He is a big part of their success right now and unless they are way out of contention by the trade deadline they can't trade him. Management would basically be saying "I know we have a shot at the playoffs this year but we don't care. We still trying to get as much cap room as we can for 2010." Thats not going to fly over with the fans or the team. If they are out come trade deadline then they have plenty of players that can be attractive to contending teams (Nate, Jefferies, Harrington, Duhon) But I think they will still be in it so the only players they would or should move are players out of the rotation like Hughes, Millicic and Curry.
On a side note I think the only team that would trade for Curry and that is in win now mode and doesn't care about freeing up money for 2010 is the Spurs. Curry next to Duncan is not bad. Spurs can trade Bonner, Finley and Mason for money to match. I believe all 3 are not playing major minutes and NY can buy out one of those contracts so that SA can sign them back in time for playoffs. I believe that is the best and only shot of getting rid of him before the offseason. But he will be easy to trade for come off season when a lot of broke teams want to get rid of long contracts and the Knicks can sign one star player and maybe trade for another. As long as they spend the money wisely, I like the the direction the team is in. Its been a long time coming. I dread but miss the days when I would be so pissed that the Bulls beat my team that no one could talk to me for a few days. lol
There not trading Jefferies for longer contracts during the season. If they sign Lebron or Wade (doubtful but wish they could) then they would look to trading Jefferies for a longer contract if it involves bringing in a star player. If not they can ride out his contract for one more year. Haywood doesn't fit DA system.
Yea but d'Antoni's system wont win without D. They need a big defensive presence to be successful. And Haywood isn't a bad fit, the man is pretty athletic.
This Knicks team plays some great defense, better defense than any Suns team that D'antoni coached. They have more of a defensive mindset. Over the last 10-15 games they have consistently held opponents under 100 points.
i agree with the signing of the knicks over the nets after watching a game this week where vangundy or mark jackson said that with talk with the players they all say the knicks are a better choice then the nets because of the history and they play in the mecca. jackson said even when they had the team that went to the finals no one really cared to much and it wasnt much of a big deal. he said the only way they would become a better destination then the knicks in the players opinion is if they make that move to BK
i still say players will rather go to the nets becaus eof the young talent. even though i think the knicks are playing well id still take harris cdr lopez yi (who is doing work) and there high lotto pick and all that money ..with that they will get a star or 2 and possibly a max player
I think the best bet for the Knicks cap situation is this. I am not joking. Either Curry (doubtful) or Jeffries (possible) don't exercise the player option they have and the knicks resign them for a little bit more than the veterans minimum. I have grown to like Jeffries more for his defensive abilities, and I was at the game last night, he had 10 rebounds leading all players. He had more rebounds than Gerald Wallace who is top 5 in the league in rebounds. I am going to say this team is going to make the playoffs either as a 7 or 8 seed. I hope we play Cleveland because if the Knicks have any chance at an upset it is against Cleveland. That would be bitter sweet, I am dreaming.
i think eddy curry opting out is more then just doubtful. its impossible.. you have a better chance of making it to the nba right now then that happening. the only reason someone opts out is because they know they can get as much, maybe a tad less on a better team, or more money
yeah they have started to because he changed his ways. int hebeginning of the season he was coaching liek he did with the suns
D'antoni's run system is overhyped the Knicks don't run and they win the Suns didn't run as much in the playoffs and might've won if not for the suspensions.
You need skilled guys and the Knicks don't have enough right now for that but their young guys are getting better.
Add a decent pg and a Lebron or Wade and they have a good chance for success.
Not sure Jeffries is going to make the difference in making the playoffs or not.
The fans can scream all they want its about the future not just this year.