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Ummmm. Dwight Howard is overated!!!

Where's all of those adamant Dwight Howard supports who claimed he wasn't overated. So, tell me, how's that working for you all.Patrick Ewing has been working with him for three years now, lol. He hasn't gotten better in two seasons. He's still (as always) bullying people and doesn't have one post move. Any more questions!!! He is what he is. A top 15 player.

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I completely agree. I've

I completely agree. I've been thinking Dwight Howard is overrated for the past 2 years. Why doesn't he have a frickin post move?? The guy works with one of the best post scorers in NBA history in Patrick Ewing, yet he still only gets by on his physical gifts, which are amazing. He could be great yet settles for being a rebounder and defender. Also, his defense bugs me. Why does he swat every shot out of bounds? The kid needs to study Bill Russel and keep those blocks in bounds and tip them to teammates for fastbreak opportunities. The MVP talk is a joke. He isn't even in the top 10 in my opinion

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He never has been a top 10

He never has been a top 10 player. Posters on this site never know what they're talking about and get upset when I critzie people. Who knows. D-Howard is a strong, very athletic big man. If he had the size of a regular NBA player, he'd be a role player.

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Dwight is doing fine...Sure

Dwight is doing fine...I bet 29 teams would love to have him...Sure Howard has some short comings..He's like Mike Tyson..Tyson was the best boxer from 1986 until 1991..But if you compare him to other greats he falls short...Because his game had flaws...But it was affective ..And he still left behind a memorable legacy...Whut we see in Howard is whut Shaq might've been like, if he'd never went to college..In college Shaq learned the drop step ,footwork,how to pass from the post and out of a double team and he developed a baby hook...Then there the little things you can pick up & work on doing practice..And things you see guys you play against do in college games..Some players that may have lesser skills than you..But if it made them successful against you..You're be dumb not to add that move to your game

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First thing.....Mike Tyson

First thing.....Mike Tyson isn't the greatest boxer ever. He wouldn't come close to beating Ali!!!

Next point, I could agree is Howard was a rookie....He's been working with Patrick Ewing for a few years now. How long does it take to learn a drop step and hook shot. He practices basketball EVERYDAY, lol. And three years with Ewing is basically going to college for four years, because Ewing isn't a regular assissant, no name coach. He's a hall-of-fame player who relates to Howard. In short, Howard really isn't doing that fine.

And where are all the people who used to take up for Howard. They're running because I'm correct.

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you guys must have been

you guys must have been listening to tim legler and jalen rose yesterday cuz they ripped dwight howard apart for about 20 minutes...

anyways, dwight is never going to be a jump shooter but at 17, 13, 2.5 i have no worries about his production

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no

his production isnt even up to par right now, only averaging 16pts a game, which he shud atleast make up for with more rebounds, but thats not the case either. I'm so disappointed in him man, after losing in the finals, u'd think he'd come back like a man on a mission, but hasn't done that great, luckly he has a very good team around him. he has so many holes in his game, one big thing i see, which andrew bynum does a great job of, is keeping the ball high once u catch. it seems like everytime dwight touches the ball he either dribbles or brings the ball down to his midsection, letting little guys hit the ball or easily foul and make him earn 2 at the line, which also is not good at.

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i dont think hes overrated

i dont think hes overrated because he produces while not being very skilled so i cant really say hes overrated. when you putting up numbers liek that how can you be overrated?. hes not as good as he should be i do agree

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I think the NBA lacks

I think the NBA lacks dominant centers so a guy like Dwight Howard who is the best of the bunch gets more credit that he may deserve. I think the NBA right now has a lot of mid-teir center talent and a lot of young guys who have the potential to be top bigs, but as of right now (with Yao out ) Howard is really the only one. Is Dwight Howard overrated? probably a little and for sure offensively, but he is still the best big man in today's game and a difference maker on defense, I mean the guy leads the league in rebounds and blocks. He is no Ewing, Robinson or Olajuwon, but thats not much of a knock, they are 1st ballot HOF's 20,000 pts 10,000 rbs guys. I think Howard is better than top 15, top 10 for sure and the best C in the game last time I checked.

and Dhamp, you are right Howard wouldn't be as good if he were 6'8'' ,If Shaq were 6'8'' he would just be a role player too, but guess what? they aren't

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I also think overrated, the

I also think overrated, the reason for this is because centre is the position, which is the weakest nowdays and if at least a little worthy centre starts producing he is straight away thought of as a star, just not enough centres...
I also laugh at the way every player that accused Dwight got so many minus points

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the thing is every one in

the thing is every one in the nba talks about how he should be better so how is he overrated?. yea the centers arent liek they are back in the day but im not gonna take away from a player because of that just liek you cant take away from players of the past because the nba players of today are bigger faster stronger more athletic then they were back then. so how exactly is he overrated?..no one says hes the best center since wilt or anything like that. no one says hes far along on offense? matter of fact if you watch nba tv or nba gametime or what ever its called they all talk about how he should be better and still is pretty raw on offense and how he needs a go to hook shot or jump shot. overrated means when people are saying how great someone is when they really arent

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He was like nuber 4 in last

He was like number 4 in last year MVP voting? Isn't that overrated?

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but he deserved to be number

but he deserved to be number 4. he isnt the most skilled offensively but he was dominating on defense rebounding as well as putting up points so how didnt he deserve to be number 4 or even higher?. shaq didnt do much but dunk and overpower people but does that mean he shouldnt have recieved the praise he deserved?..he could have been better but what he did worked so should i say he doesnt deserve what he got since all he did was dunk over peopel and overpower if he was dominating and producing?

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guy takes Orlando to the

guy takes Orlando to the finals and hes overrated??? Give me a break, thats the most absurd line of BS i have heard in a long while..........I dont care if he has NO POST MOVES at all... Production is production, and dude produces. he is the best Center in the NBA hands down...

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i agree with the dwight

i agree with the dwight thing. people get what he should be doing confused with being overrated. it would be liek saying odom is overrated because with his talent he should be doing more then he is

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I was the first person on

I was the first person on this site to say Howard was overated and people went balistic. Ha ha ha. Haters everywhere, lol. I know basketball. I know what I'm talking about. And when I tell the truth, people get their feelings hurt. D-Howard is an athletic Emaka OKafur. He should stick to playing defense......And for whoever said Howard led his team to the finals in the SUPER WEAK eastern conference. Well, he didn't. It was Turkgluo who led the way.

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ok you are losing youre cred

ok you are losing youre cred dhamp...hedo was putting up 15 and 4reb

dhoward 20 and 15 with about 4blks (not sure on that one)...so how you figure hedo lead them more then dwight?

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i guess lamar odom or ariza

i guess lamar odom or ariza lead the way for the lakers huh? mo williams lead the way for the cavs in the playoffs to im guessing

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did u watch all of orlandos

did u watch all of orlandos playoff games? Turk played a big part, but it was dwight who led them... why did cleveland sign shaq? I mean come on you know basketball...

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When I say leading the way,

When I say leading the way, I'm mean closing the games for the Magic and being the go-to guy with 5 mins to play. I wasn't saying Hedo is better than Howard because he isn't.

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thats usually how it works

thats usually how it works when youre big man isnt a good free throw shooter and you have good guards or small fowards. the lakers did the same with shaq when he was in his prime

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you wouldnt give howard the

you wouldnt give howard the ball with a couple of seconds and youre down three if you have a almost allstar who can shoot on youre team..come on now

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Lakeshow way to help him out

Lakeshow way to help him out with that.. he is losing credibility by the second. Ive been thinking that statement for months.

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Turkgluo who led the way?

Turkgluo who led the way? lets see him lead the Raptors

D Howarad defensive presence led them not Turkoglu's 15points per

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lol exactly cuz hes doing

lol exactly cuz hes doing such a great job leading the raptors

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Is this the Real DHAMP? or 1

Is this the Real DHAMP? or 1 of the many imposters? DHAMP tries to make himself seem popular by posting phony accounts..hahahahaha even hubie browns says so....

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Dwight Howard is the most

Dwight Howard is the most dominant player in the NBA...without the ball in his hands. He doesn't need to score to be a stud. He's a vaccume on the boards, he blocks shots, he changes shots, he prevents players from even penetrating in the first place.

If you expect Dwight Howard to be a 25 to 30 PPG type of player, then forget it because he won't be. Why does he have to be? Just because he doesn't put up 30 points a game doesn't mean he's overrated. The real basketball minds realize this and realize everything else he does besides score. Scoring in not everything.

No, Dwight Howard does not have great post moves, no Dwight howard does not have a jump shot, no Dwight Howard is not a great free throw shooter, but he's a great offensive rebounder and scores most of his points through dunks or putbacks.

In his defense, anybody who watches the Magic has to wonder what the guards on that team are thinking. All they do is dribble dribble dribble shoot. Repeat the rest of the game. They really don't consistently give him a chance to score inside. It seems like all they want to do is shoot 3's. I can imagine that would be very irritating for Howard.

He does need to improve his offensive game, but cmon people. Dwight Howard is not overrated, he's a beast defensively and the best Center in the league.

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i wonder the same thing as

i wonder the same thing as the guards and fowards dribble and shot. no one says too much because they are winning that way and they make there shots. the problem come sup when they start to miss those shots. its inexcusable for howard to get so few touches some games even though he doesnt have alot of moves because he still gets people in foul trouble and finds ways to score the ball

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Dhamp2

You guys nee to read. Please RE-read this.When I say leading the way, I'm mean closing the games for the Magic and being the go-to guy with 5 mins to play. I wasn't saying Hedo is better than Howard because he isn't.

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Now, during the playoffs last year, I said D-Howard was overated and EVERYONE went crazy. I didn't say much because I knew what I was talking about. Now everyone agrees. Wow how things change. That's exactly why I leave these notes under each post. So EVERYONE can keep track of what I post!!!

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yeah you obviously dont

yeah you obviously dont understand basketball...when youre big man isnt a great freethrow shooter and you have 2 other all star talents on top of youre players rather shoot then pass the ball then common sense tells you the other all star talent guys are gonna be taking the shoot. you can keep tryna spin it anyway you want but in this case dhamp you are wrong

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still looking for the under

still looking for the under 5 min for playoffs stats but im getting close...this is the clutch stats for the regular season under 5min fourth quarter

http://www.82games.com/0809/CSORT11.HTM

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heres the true performance

heres the true performance levels for the playoffs last year...turk isnt on that..still looking for the playoffs last 5 min
http://www.82games.com/0809/playoffs/playoffs.htm

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No, I'm not wrong. Have the

No, I'm not wrong. Have the read the comments? Obviosuly I'm not the only one who thinks Howard is overated!!!

Furthermore, and I understand that Howard doesn't need the ball in the clutch if Vince Carter can get the job done. My problem is, WHY isn't Howard getting better. Does he have a learning disability. Is he incoherent when practicing with Ewing. He plays everyday and hasn't gotten any better. And he's not the best center in the NBA; it's Yao Ming.

Also, if I don't know basketball, Have you ever heard of Carmelo and Wesley Johnson. Hmmmmmm. I see to be right alot of times. Call Eric Devendor is you want. Name something else I been wrong on!!! I said Matt Barnes was a heck of a player. Have you seen what's he's done since being in the starting lineups three games ago????? I'm the only one who really sees the potential. That's why I called out Matt Barnes. Watch, next week someone will say, hey Matt Barnes is pretty good. You guys kill me.

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overrated or not, he is

overrated or not, he is still the best center in the nba. he pulls down 13 rpg and can score one on one in the post, if he was better at passing out of the double team we wouldn't be having this conversation.

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saying a player is overrated

saying a player is overrated is different then having proof. i see some peopel agreeing with you but where is the proof?..i see peopel who dont agree with you showing proof liek howards production and getting his team to the finals, allstar apperances, how he chages the game without scoring. i can say kobe is the 10best player int he nba and people can agree with me does that make me right?..or does proff make me right. saying he doesnt have post moves shows what proof? and who is overrating him?..like i said before no one is saying hes the best ever. no fans no nba players no commentors. everyone is saying he needs to work on his moves but not one says anything that leads me to believe they are overrating him... and all the people who agree with you on here are more then welcome to show proof liek ive been doing with the proof of who was the main reason they did as well as they did in the play offs

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saying a player is overrated

saying a player is overrated is different then having proof. i see some peopel agreeing with you but where is the proof?..i see peopel who dont agree with you showing proof liek howards production and getting his team to the finals, allstar apperances, how he chages the game without scoring. i can say kobe is the 10best player int he nba and people can agree with me does that make me right?..or does proff make me right. saying he doesnt have post moves shows what proof? and who is overrating him?..like i said before no one is saying hes the best ever. no fans no nba players no commentors. everyone is saying he needs to work on his moves but not one says anything that leads me to believe they are overrating him... and all the people who agree with you on here are more then welcome to show proof liek ive been doing with the proof of who was the main reason they did as well as they did in the play offs

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u said "Now, during the

u said "Now, during the playoffs last year, I said D-Howard was overated and EVERYONE went crazy. I didn't say much because I knew what I was talking about. Now everyone agrees. Wow how things change. That's exactly why I leave these notes under each post. So EVERYONE can keep track of what I post!!!"

who agrees LOLOLOL.... Your posts are filled with NO KNOWLEDGE of the game..

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are you serious about the

are you serious about the melo thing?..you act like you are saying things no one could have thought possible..everyone knew melo had the potential to score. many people on other sites said wesley was good. barnes is putting up 8 ppg for the season. he averges 7 for his career and he averaged 10 last year. what are you saying that is news to anyone? and if the lakers 3 peat you think that will be news and you will be considered nastradamus ????

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Well if I'm following you so

Well if I'm following you so far... the best center in the league is overrated, a guy wearing an enormous cast who hasn't played a game all season is the REAL best center, an 80% win team is "SUPER WEAK," and being neg-repped left and right means everyone is agreeing with you.

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the thing that really stood

the thing that really stood out to me was the knicks announcer Clyde actually got pretty upset with the way the guy shoots free throws. Instead of using his fingertips he shoots with the palm of his hand, giving much less control. You would think a player thats been in the leave for like 5 years would at least shoot free throws the right way.

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and since you want people to

and since you want people to say when you were wrong here we go

Gallinari SUCKS We're not talking about Gallinari because he isn't that good. I watched him last week and all he did was jack up 11 three-point shots. He made maybe three. I think two. He played no defense and couldn't stop my 8-year-old neice.

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then you were wrong again when you were talking about gilbert then try to cover it up with "I messed up yesterday about Gilbert Arenas because I don't use the Interent or other Websites to show facts. My bad I prefer to go strictly off of memory."....which is pretty dumb because it makes alot more sense to make sure you are right about something instead of just looking liek a fool and going off memory and act liek theres no way you could be wrong when you do it.

no one on here is perfect anmd all of use are wrong at a minimum of 5 times and sometimes we are right about stuff. the difference between us and you is you have to continually promote youre self for some reason. maybe you liek the attention or need the attention i dont know but it makes more sense to let others tell you how much knowledge you have or how right you are. you only make youre self look bad by constantly have to tell people how smart you are when you get one or 2 obvious things right. yeah everyone does it sometimes but you go wayyy over board

youre melo thing would be no different then me saying durant will lead the leauge in scoring one day then he does and i say I TOLD YA'LL SO IM SO SMART saying lance stephenson is gonna flop in the nba or this guy in college will be great in the nba doesnt make you right since none of that has happened

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and i didnt say anything

and i didnt say anything about people agreeing wit me. i can care less if i have the proof as well as watching nba games and seeing who rates where as far as best int he nba. the guy is ranked number 2 in blks reb ast amoung centers, 2nd in efficancy first in blocks and gets 8 attemtps a game which explains why he doesnt score whole lot and anyone who watchs orlando can see why his points are down

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Gallinari does indeed suck.

Gallinari does indeed suck. And Gibert Arenas does owe Larry Hughes half of his check. Those in fact are true.

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And I make bold prepictions

And I make bold prepictions and I'm normally right. When you make predictions are you're right, holla at me. There's 248 players in the NBA. Why did I pick Melo? Why not Durant? Why did nodbody else talk about Wesley Johnson before me??? Why didn't you??? Answer that.

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i must give you one thing

i must give you one thing though you are very entertaining and theres never a dull moment with you

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I think Howard is rated

I think Howard is rated fine. He's an overpowering presence on anyone's frontline. He does everything a big man is supposed to do plus some, except he doesn't have a post game and isn't a free throw shooter.. But even that's aided by his strength and athleticism advantage. I think he's still a top 10 player at worst, and top 5 at best. The man is the best physical specimen in the NBA along with Lebron.

He's not having the season he had last year, but he's still be Head Honcho of all centers in the NBA and has been for the past 2 1/2 seasons.

Oh, and Turkoglu was NOT the person that led the Magic to the Finals. Let's not be silly....Event though he was a good Robin to Batman last year....

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whats funny is hedo had his

whats funny is hedo had his moments here and there but the funny thing is this

hedo 15.8ppg 4.8ast 4.5 reb
rashard 19ppg 2.9ast 6.4 reb

hedo was not robin he was alfred

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Alfred, lol. That was pretty

Alfred, lol. That was pretty funny.

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hedo was not robin he was

hedo was not robin he was alfred quincey lol

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how can you say a 21 year

how can you say a 21 year old scoring 15 ppg sucks? He is just starting to get his legs he didnt play basketball from march to october because he had back surgery. Everyday he does more and more, the kid is going to be a star.

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He isin't overrated But he

He isin't overrated

But he does not have what the other great big men had in the heydays of the 80's and 90's

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