Why is Jon Scheyer totally ignored?
What do you mean ignored? There's been a few threads on him already.
Case and Point: Mid to Late 2nd Round pick. Could be a serviceable backup for a contender but he's better off going to Europe
What more does Scheyer have to do to prove he can play in the NBA? He has an unheard of A/TO ratio but isn't a point guard? He has improved considerably every year but doesn't have much upside? He isn't even rated as any type of prospect by the rankings on this site. Scheyer has been the best defender (according to Jay Bilas) for Duke over the past 2 seasons but could never stay with guards in the NBA. He has had his best games against the best ACC guards: last season he had 2 very good games against UNC (Ty Lawson and Wayne Ellington) , Jeff Teague and Tony Douglas when Scheyer was MVP of the ACC tournament. This season he clearly outplayed the guards of UCONN winning pre season NIT MVP as well as the Gonzaga guards
How much upside do you think Scheyer has in terms to NBA potential?
Defending on the college level and defending on the NBA level are two completely different things. The two games are completely different. I just don't think Scheyer will thrive in the NBA like he has in college. He's a college player.
If I'm a NBA GM, I don't even take a look at Scheyer for a first round pick. It's mid to late second round or as an undrafted free-agent.
jwhite - Never said he couldn't play in the NBA. But as an NBA prospect, there's not much to talk about.
He's an average passer, his A/TO ratio is inflated because Duke is knocking down the 3 effectively this season so far. Scheyer is a good slasher off the curl on the college level, which draws defenders for an easy kick out to Singler, Dawkins or Smith.
His lateral quickness is slow as hell for his position, its not really suited for the up-tempo/iso in the NBA.
As for just defending in general, he's very clever at reading the passing lane for the steal and is good at putting pressure on the ball handler. But since he's so slow, he's gonna get beat off the dribble a lot and going for the steal every other possession is going to get you benched in the NBA.
Could have a JJ Redick-esque career in the NBA which is not bad at all
i dont know of too many 6'5'' white shooting guards in the NBA in the past 10 years
how tall is kyle korver?
brent barry comes to mind but i don't know how tall he is either.
Korver is 6' 7". Brent Barry is 6' 6", maybe even 6' 7" himself.
Brent Barry was pretty athletic back when he was younger lol
Didn't he win a Slam Dunk contest in the NBA?
Yep... He jumped from the free-throw line lol
from the free throw line in his shooting shirt.
Brent Barry played in a much different league then the NBA is now. The NBA is all about offense, fast breaks, athleticism...How many teams average over 100 ppg? How many averaged over 100 ppg when Barry played? The game is different now.
biggysmalls, i'm not sure what point you are trying to make. Brent was the starting pg for the sonics like 6 or 7 seasons ago. Besides, I'm really not sure what the diffenernce between now and 10 years ago has to do with him being able to dunk from the ft line?
BIGGIESMALLS..i have to laugh when u said brent barry played in a different league then today...didnt he retire last season? i know time goes by fast but daaaaaaaaaaaaaaammm.......he was in the nba this time last year.....u can say the nba is different then when his dad played.....
you don't make a very good argument when you say he played 6 or 7 years ago. Thats exactly the point I'm making. 6 or 7 years ago, every team didnt score over 100 points and play no defense. It was unheard of to have an undersized Power Forward. Teams were just more athletic. You just strengthened my point. I have to laugh when you said that Brent Barry played last season...How good was he last season or for that matter his last few years in the NBA? How many points did he average? (about 3-5 i believe) How many minutes did he play?(about 12-15 i believe) Were they significant? Thats great that he was in the league last year, but he wasn't the same player. Obviously thats because he's older, but at the same time, the league is different now.
Its sad that you can't spell Biggysmalls when its right in front of you lol
How many white SGs have played in the NBA in the past 10 yrs? I knew this is the reason Scheyer is ignored by this website and all the kool aid drinkers. First of all, he is a PG. His assist to TO ratio is still 5/1. Ignoring this statistic is , IMO, like saying someone who has a .400 batting avg isn't an effective hitter. What would Scheyer need beside a melanin transplant to be considered a point guard? A 10/1 A/TO ratio?. The stereotype that white American can't play in the NBA is mass psychosis. I just saw a tape of the World Univ. games from this summer. The US only won the bronze medal in basketball after having trouble beating little Israel in a tight game . A country of 4 or 5 million Serbia won the gold medal. All of the US players on the World University Games will play in the NBA. The black American BB players aren't supermen. You people, who belittle whites' ability to play BB are idiots. Casspi, is the second or third best rookie. I'm sure there are other whites foreigners such as Rubio, who could be All-stars in the NBA (if the voting wasn't ridiculous e.g. Iverson as an all-star). Do white American have some type of disease which prevents them from succeeding in the NBA like foreign whites ? Len Elmore who isn't a fan of Duke called Scheyer "the hottest player in the country" . If Scheyer scored 50 points a game the same kool aid drinkers would find a reason Scheyer can't play in the NBA.
relax man. Your name is jWHITE, and you seem to be real caught up in this whole race thing. Are you sure you're not the the one acting racist on here?
biggysmalls, i have watched the nba for almost 20 years and i always tell people how it continues to grow and evolve. But you make 6 years sound like 30 and it's a whole new sport now a days, get real. It doesn't change that fast. Besides, I still have no idea what point you are trying to make. Brent Barry jumped from the free throw line a couple times and was quite athletic. That's all anybody said on here about him and you went on about how the game was different when he played. I believe the ft line was still 15 feet???
1. Intenational basketball is diffrent from American basketball..
2. Trust me the NBA would welcome a "white superstar" especially at a guard position...
3. I agree with IIprezz22 (you do sound like you got some race issues you need to resolve)..