stephenson reminds me of evans. they are both big guards who have a questionable shot, but are both creative and skilled in taking it to the rack. both were also very low on the mock drafts coming into college although they were top recruits. Also, they are both much better when the ball is in their hands as they tend to dominate the ball. A lot of people were hating evans just like they are on stephenson currently. The tournament is what helped evans, and this big win over uconn could get cinncinatti in this years tournament which would really help his stock. stephenson is good, most of you just don't know it yet.
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Stephenson looks to have a better jump shot then Evans, ecspecially off the dribble....However, Evans is a more skilled penetrater....I think Stephenson will eventually be moved to 2 or 3 where he will benefit, because you dont want him running your team, he will better utiliized as a scorer
yeah lance reminds me oh him as well. i think evans penetrated more because his jumper wasnt that great so he had to drive mre in order to score. when a player can shoot he tends to shoot jumpers more or at least as much as penetrate. micheal redd,ray allen,kobe,jordan later in his career. shooters know that they dont have to drive as much and defenders tend to play off players so it makes sense to shoot the jumper instead of driving all the time. and memphis offese was the DRIBBLE DRIVE lol
I understand the comparison, but I always saw tyreke more point guard like than Lance. I can see Lance coming into the league as an off the bench lock down defender who can kill it on the boards as well as score. I believe he can add as much as another 10 pounds in muscle to his frame, and that could be very scary once he gets to the NBA.
tru but have yu noticed that the kings play him at the sg position?..hes more effective there where he can look for his shot more and they play the euro at the pg. evans hhas pg handles ( as well as lance) but he doesn't have that pg mentality( lance doesnt either). hopefully lance stays another year though. he has the tools he just needs to refine them
Agreed. I would love to see Lance stay another year, but some idiot agent is going to tell him otherwise and he will end up jumping.
yeah. but think about it. if you are gonna go first round would you stay in college?..i know i wouldnt. its rare that a career ending injury happens but id be thinking it would be just my luck. and you're weaknesses could also be exposed . yeah you could come back and raise youre draft stock but you could also lower it. its a tought decision in a way but i know id take the money and run. i actually did that on a lower scale by not finishing my sr year and deciding to play overseas since the chances of me going to the nba were slim anyway
No doubt, though I am a big advocate of raising the amount of years removed to high school from 1 to 2 years because guys are still developing. The players who do go to the NBA are a rare breed. You should consider yourself fortunate to be able to have the skills to play overseas even. A lot of these college players may not play any time of ball and getting that degree is much more important. I think in Lance's case of someone with amazing god given abilities it is mentally where he has to continue developing rather than physically. The NBA everyone has great physical abilities it is mentally that separates the players.
Out of curiosity. Quincey where did you play college ball at and where overseas???
Lance reminds me of a early verison of Micheal Finley. Stephenson was to always to me a top 14 pick.
He can slash, he can rebound very well for his size and has a NBA body. If Lance went to a big name school ( UCLA) he would be a top 10 pick by now.
i see lance being similar to jr smith but less three happy
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I've been saying the same thing about him and reke for awhile now
I remember when i made a post like this a while back be call me stupid and took away my pints i always knew they both could play but people were hating on them both stephenson has some sick handles he may not be athletic but dude can get buckets.
I think with most player it is smart to at least stay 2 years. I know that has not worked for some but you are able to come in more ready. if Gerald Green would have gone to college two years and maybe developed more on his skill set and gone to a top 10 or 15 school, he would still be in the league. Also being able to rebound and defend as a swingman should help you see a lot of time in the pros and it is a bonus if you can actually put points up.
The difference between Stephenson and Evans to me is the fact that Stephenson has show the potential to score in other ways than slashing. He has a post game which he hasn't shown in the more team-oriented college game, but when he gets to the NBA he'll show some post skills that will make him a much more deadly scorer. He's also shown flashes of a jump shot that Evans never showed for more than 1 or 2 attempts a game in college. He's a better shooter than the stats show, trust me on that.
Paul Pierce is my comparison and I stick to it. He has that same ability to pull up for jump shots, he's a streak shooter, he's not a great athlete, he's very strong, he's got a great 1st step, he finishes through contact, and he'll be at the free throw line alot in the NBA just by watching his style of play. Those are all characteristics associated with Paul Pierce, some characteristics now and some when he was at the same stage of development Stephenson is at currently . The only difference between the 2 at the same stages of their development is that Stephenson was a much more intense on-ball defender and a better ball-handler, while Pierce was a better rebounder and off-ball defender. I think the comparison is perfect, but only time will tell if it's perfect production-wise. I think it will be...
I was the first to say it and everybody said it was ridiculous and now everybody is giving him the brandon jennings treatment after 1 summer league game. Look I watched this guy a lot last year at Cincy and I think he could be really good if keeps his head on straight. Like I said in december...he's Tyreke Evans 2.0
Trust me, he's no Tyreke. So you guys think he"ll be an allstar?
It think it's WAY early to be making comparisons like this. I really can't imagine him effectively staying in front of Deron Williams, Chris Paul, Devin Harris, Tony Parker, or other elite PGs. If he proves to be a defensive liability, don't expect to see him get too much playing time at the PG spot.
Lance Stephenson doesn't play bad D at all, he's a very good defender. I don't think he's even close to being a defensive liability.
You haven't seen him D up a starting NBA point guard in an NBA game. That remains to be seen.
Too early to label him an allstar just yet...
His attitude will stop him from becoming a good player..
He has that J.R Rider cockiness & that Harold Miner future superstar look written all over him...
Since when has good defense not translated? If you can defend, you can defend.
It doesn't translate if the guy in front of you is far more physically gifted. Besides, it isn't as if he was some sort of lockdown defender at Cincinnatti. He was only decent, and that was against far less athletic competition.
I think he could guard the 2, but guarding a starting PG is a tall order. I'm not saying he can't do it, but we're definitely getting ahead of ourselves based on two summer league games, one of which he dominated the much smaller Randle, and the other in which he was far less effective when guarded by Terrrence Williams.
wow i said lance stephenson - paul pierce and I lost like 10 points, now iggy says it and everyone agrees.
maybe it's because i said it before summer league and everybody got on stephensons jock
Lol, I noticed that too. But I said it before Summer League as well. Look at the date of my post.
And Stephenson was a pretty good defender at Cincy, not a lockdown defender but he was very solid. If you think his defense won't translate you are either nitpicking, or you haven't really watched how good a defender he really is. Defense hasn't been a problem for him at all, and he has all the tools to be even better (quick feet, long arms, strong body, and an understanding of angles).
I think he does forget where his man is on the court or he over helps but that will happen to most rookies, he just needs to get used to it. I saw him lose sight of Terrence Williams a couple of times but like I said, you just have to get used to the speed of the game. Other than that, he's a very good on ball defender. Don't call him Ron Artest or Bruce Bowen or Shane Battier just yet, but maybe someday he'll be at that level.
I'm certainly not the first person to call his defense into question. It's usually a question mark on scouting reports, which is all I'm saying that it is: a question mark. You have zero in-game evidence of him defending an elite PG, so there is no reason to act like his defensive prowess is a foregone conclusion.
Any scouting report that questions his defense was probably from HS. No way was his defense "questionable" this past season.
people were saying that when they were both in hs.
Only thing you had to do was watch videos of them in hs, and everyone would say so.
IF you find something to complain about regarding Stephenson's defense... Then you're nitpicking.
He's not a lockdown defender or even a great defender, but there's nothing there that suggests he's going to be some sort of liability or weak defender. He'll hold his own fine, even as a rookie.
He's strong, long arms, quick feet and he competes. He'll learn and eventually be a very good defender.
It's bizarre how some people
It's bizarre how some people... Are you going to finish that statement?
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Anyway, I think it's bizarre how some people can feel so confident in throwing a rookie into a starting PG position, especially this early on. This is my main issue. Defense and turnovers would be my main concern and his defensive ability really won't be known until it's seen in-game. I like the kid's game and think he has played great in the last couple of summer league games, I'm just not sold on any rookie until I see it during the season.