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Have you watched MJ play?

Apparently I'm arguing with 90's babies on this site because I don't think people understand the game of basketball and what made Michael Jordan the best....

So how many of you have seen MJ play a FULL GAME? I'm talking more than 5 too... Like actual games in season and playoffs?


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I've watched plenty of MJ

I've watched plenty of MJ games, and if you ever want to know how good his is, then watch him when he doesn't have the ball.

Dhamp2...wishing you a Merry Christmas.

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I saw the end of Jordan's career

Though I have seen many of his past games, highlight reels, etc. One thing I can say is that Kobe isn't MJ, Lebron isn't MJ, and no one in the future will be MJ. While Kobe may have a better Jumper than MJ and Lebron may slash better than MJ. Neither will be the defender, passer, or have the heart MJ had. I know you can't measure heart, but MJ had more of it just look at his game. In addition MJ made average players great. Lebron hasn't had an all-star ever (mo williams is a bum) and he can't make his team championship caliber. Kobe has always had HOFs and All-Stars, if Kobe were to have a season-ending injury the Lakers can still go deep in the playoffs. MJ's team's couldn't w/o him. I can go on and on, but will save some for more discussion.

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Averaging 17 points for the past 3 years

in the NBA is NOT a bum, I'm sorry... I will admit Mo Will goes in and out of cold spells, but when he gets into it Top 5 to 10 PG in the League... Big Z was an All-Star too, so was Shaq, Ben Wallace, Wally... So don't say that ridiculous statements like that...

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I saw him play at the arena,

I saw him play at the arena, back in 1989, versus the Charlotte Hornets. He one-hand dunked an alley oop off a pass from halfcourt.

In 1986, I watched the game on TV when he dropped 63 on the Celtics in the playoffs.

It's honestly hard to compare MJ with Kobe and LeBron. The game is different. One impressive thing about Michael is how he could attack the basket in an era when you had Olajuwon, Ewing, Robinson, and later O'Neal/Mourning roaming the paint. There were also a lot of tall, long PF's who played more of an interior game. LeBron does not have the massive, athletic big men to contend with.

My impression is that LeBron was much more advanced as a 19-21-year-old than Michael was. LeBron was definitely more of a team-first player. He was more like Michael and Magic rolled into one. But comparing them as players in their late-20's? That's hard. I see LeBron as a SF who could eventually finish up as a 36-year-old playing some 4. He's that strong and long. Jordan was always gonna be a perimeter player. In a sense, it's comparing apples to oranges.

LeBron has had no one near as good as Scottie Pippen as a teammate.

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knicksfan, you say the bulls

knicksfan, you say the bulls couldn't win without mj but the year after he retired in 1993 they put Pete Myers in the starting lineup and won 55 game while advancing in the playoffs.

I'm not saying Jordan isn't the best ever, but I love these biased arguments about how jordan had so much more heart and his team had no talent and he carried them. Cartwright, Oakley, Armstrong, Grant, Rodman, Pippen, Harper and probably another guy or two were all all-stars during their career and teammates with mike. Yeah, the bulls were pretty damn good without mike.

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Are Big Z,Shaq, Ben Wallace,

Are Big Z,Shaq, Ben Wallace, and Wally anywhere near their allstar forms? Wasn't mo a replacements' replacement?

Aslo MJ's team could get deep into the playoffs, as a matter of fact they did. Scottie steped up and toni kukoc played great while MJ was gone.

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MJ's the greatest, there's

MJ's the greatest, there's no nitpicking anyone can do to say other so lets just leave it at that.. he is the G.O.A.T... if i hear more arguments about teammates like bill cartwright and jud buechler being amazing players im gonna snap

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Buechler was good,

Buechler was good, Cartwright helped against Ewing but they were all decent role players.
Nothing like Odom who is better than anyone outside of Pippen who MJ every played with.
For once I agree with Dhamp watch him play without the ball.

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Buechler=amazing???

WOW... I never knew those two words could be paired together... LOL

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who the heck said buechler

who the heck said buechler was amazing? That guy loses all credibility on here

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Saw his whole career

I saw lots of jordan in my time being from chicago and being born in 1980 so i saw pretty much the whole jordan era and he was the best player that i have ever seen play period. Even in his later years when he came back and played for the wizards he still averaged like 20 points per game. And Jud Buechler was just another one of those decent role players that played his role well he would come in and hit a couple 3's and play a little defense and get right back on the bench. Also that 93-94 team was pretty good they shouldve beat the knicks that year but they got the wrong end of a bad call in that series.

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