With recent sucess of Will Bynum, don't you think that Sherron Collins can be a pretty good player in the league? Collins and Bynum are very very similar and their strength and athleticism definately make up for their lack of height. Collins is currently listed in the second round of the 2010 mock. Do you think he can be on of the sleepers of the draft?
i know will is more athletic. i think it may take awhile for sharron to be a factor in the nba if hes like will seeing as it took will some time over seas to get his game better before he was a factor in the nba
I have Collins going 18th to Miami in my mock draft. I think he's a good backup PG/instant offense type, and will be valued very high, especially with the NCAA tourny I expect him to have. He always plays outstanding ball in big games where everyone is watching..
Like the comparison, but Sherron is actually more of a true point guard than Will is. Will was always known for his scoring and athleticism. Sherron might actually be just as athletic as Will is actually.
Let me actually back track on my first statement regarding Sherron being more of a true point guard. He actually improved on this attribute during his time at Kansas, which is a testament to Coach Bill Shelf, and Sherron's willingness to learn the position.
I've seen Collins play a lot and he has really improved his game as a point guard this season. He now looks for teammates and has dropped his dribble up the court and launch a 3 tendencies. His offense isn't forced this season his turnovers are down and I think that kind of play alone has improved his hopes of playing in the NBA. I agree with iguodala about him being an effective backup offensive spark off the bench.
im not sure about that iggy and heres why...before i stated that chalmers is the pg of the future for the heat but the mor ei watch them the more i see that the heat seems to want him as the back up and are now bringing him off the bench in the games i saw and playing arryo more. i just cnt see them drafting a pg who they dont plan on becomming a starter that high int he draft
I think he'd be a good fit in Washington in the early 2nd round. They are down at pg and he can be a more effective spark off the bench than Earl Boykins. I do think he has the chance to go in the first to a team who needs a point guard. After Wall there is a big drop off, and Memphis, Boston, and OKC could all use a PG at that spot.
Im sorry but sherron collins has no chance to be a long term player in the league..He is no where near Bynum(speed & vert) as a athlete..When you are that size you need a few other things to be exceptional to be a good pro, he has average speed, an average shot, and poor athleticism but great basketball savy. That makes you a solid college player but thats not enough to get him through in the NBA, a better comparision would be former unconn great Khalid El-amin...He had a few solid years but wasn't cut for the league...
You are comparing him to a slow and chubby point guard? You obviously haven't been watching this kid play if you're saying he has average speed and poor athleticism. Please watch these video's, you will see where you are wrong.
I don't see them taking a PG to be a starter in the draft, but I do think that Collins would be a perfect bench scorer for them. They could very well bring in a starter caliber PG via free agency...I mean, who is their scorer off the bench? Daequan Cook? Quentin Richardson? It's very unlikely either one of them will be back next season for them, because of being a trade piece (Cook) or just not being brought back by management (Q-Rich)...
Mouchy.....all I can tell you is watch Sherron Collins play basketball lol....because it's quite obvious you haven't.
I disagree mouchy, He is extremely quick and effective around the rim because of his strength even if he isn't a high flyer, but he does have NBA range and his athleticism isn't poor, remember his dunk in the McDonalds All-American game? he hasn't gotten injured and is not any worse of an athelte as he was then, he just doesn't dunk. I think he can make it in the league, and despite his stout stature his body is nothing like El-Amin. Collins is extremely strong while El-Amin was pretty pudgy, I think Collins reminds me of Marcus Banks with a better outside shot.
yeah but miami already has a back up pg in chalmers or carlos. i think you can get a better player at that point in the draft the collins even though i do think collins will be a pretty good player. i think with so many teams having young pg and backups that collins might be going in the second round
Yes i watch him play..and i see countless times where he penetrates and can't even get his shot off or throws up a prayer. He has strength with the ball in his hand but he is not strong in his core, that allows you to absorb and finish with contact. Just compare his speed to any of the top 6 pg taken in the last draft..his speed is only comparable to curry's and he is a 6'3 pure shooter. I don't see what makes him special...answer that..what attribute does he have that makes him stick out as a NBA PROSPECT! ? Its no coincident mocks have him in the second round
He'll be a slasher in the NBA...especially with his speed, strength and athleticism and the hand checking rules in the NBA. El-Amin was a poor comparison, they are both jsut short and stocky. The comparison ends there..
Not strong in his core!?! the dude is 5'11'' 200 pounds and at that size you can't change directions as well as he does at the speed he does without having a strong core. Absourbing contact and finishing around the rim is one of Collins' strengths, he's a lot like Ty Lawson in that aspect. He has very good end to end speed, a good outside and mid-range game is a big game player, and is the point guard for the #1 college team right now, that makes him an NBA prospect You may have seen him play, but your observations on his game are way off. I think he will go in the late 1st or early 2nd, he doesn't stand out in one area aside from speed, but he has a collection of skills that will allow him to be an effective pro. Blair, Jerebko, Budinger were 2nd rounders in this last draft and they are doing fine. If Collins was 6'2'' he'd be a lock for top 20 the fact that he is 5'11'' is why he is a second rounder not the unfounded observations you made about him
a coupel of years ago el-amin could have came back nd played in the nba..he had a couple of offers but turned them down. there have been a couple of guys who didnt get drafted or played of r a year or 2 then got cut, went overseas played very well then got invited back wit contract offers but decided to stay because they were making alot more money overseas( 3-5million a season tax free)
Joe wolf your right, if he was 6'2 that would change his outlook but he is not...He is prob 5'10 200lbs and thats not lean muscle mass..He is a good player but reality is, if he came out last year he might not have been drafted..Patty Mills went late second round and i don't think he is or was a better player then him. Proof is in the pudding, he was outclassed by Flynn last year....Just cause your a top player on a top team does not mean your a stud..if that was the case Duke would be producing a lot more pro's! lol Don't evaluate him as a fan...he is a good player yes but can he guard and go at some of the leagues top PG's now, Its a golden era for Young PG's and its going to be tough to get a job out there
this was his profile on draftexpress.com back in march..im not sure if there is one for this year yet
The development of his mid-range game may be the biggest reason he’s been successful in that endeavor. Earlier in his career, Collins wasn’t terribly efficient as a jump shooter when he was forced to put the ball on the floor, but he’s become a very reliable shooter off the dribble this season. He now complements his ability to create separation with smoother perimeter footwork and reliable mechanics that have come a long way in the last two years.
While his jump shot has improved in some ways, this season has also exposed some of his weaknesses as a finisher. Though Collins is completely capable of turning the corner and getting to the rim, his lack of height limits his scoring efficiency in traffic. In the past, he was able to pick and choose his spots and be more opportunistic when attacking the basket, but with defenses keying in on him, he’s had a tough time scoring with defenders bearing down on him. At the next level, Collins will need to continue honing his perimeter shooting ability to offset the difficulties he’ll have scoring at the rim.
As a point guard, Collins shows the explosiveness and ball handling ability to make an impact, but is a bit too assertive for his own good with his dribble and simply isn’t a pure point guard. Though he’s amongst the top assist-men in our database, he’s also amongst the most turnover prone. His numbers as a passer aren’t staggering when compared to the players he’s competing with for draft position, and are highly representative of the fact that Collins is a scorer in a point guard’s body. Head Coach Bill Self has looked to Collins for point production, but he has shown some impressive flashes of point guard ability during the tournament, especially on the pick and roll and in drive and dish situations. He may have a scorer’s mentality, but in the NBA, he’ll likely be asked to take fewer trips deep into the lane and focus more on orchestrating offensive sets.
On the defensive end, Collins doesn’t utilize his athleticism as well as he could –a fault that became abundantly obvious when Ben Woodside beat him off the dribble repeatedly in their opening-round matchup. Despite having all the physical tools to be at least a passable defender, Collins doesn’t always show the greatest intensity, seeming to merely go through the motions on many possessions, but being a somewhat effective defender when he wants to be. Given his lack of size and only average lateral quickness, improved attention to detail on the defensive end could be very beneficial to his stock.
With the end of the season just around the corner, Collins is in position to toss his hat into the draft-ring, but would probably be well served returning to school. He has all the makings of a future NBA player, proving to be very productive on the highest levels of college hoops, but he is still an undersized shooting guard that lacks a defensive presence. With essentially everyone on the roster returning to school, Collins could boost his stock significantly next season when he can do more play-making and not have to carry his team. Whether he decides to explore that option remains to be seen, and may not even be an issue if he continues to step up with big performances in the coming weeks.
You got me on the fan part mouchy, I did let get a little heated there because I am afan, but I watched the KU Syracuse game last year and Collins has improved a lot since then. At that point in his career he tried to force too much on offense, I think Collins driving and forcing shots in the lane in overtime lost the game for Kansas, but he has cut that out of his game. I think he can be an effective player because he can push the ball so well, and he has cut down on his turnovers and forced shots. I also think he wouldn't have gotten drafted last year, but I think he has improved on what he needed to in order to become a legit prospect this season.