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The Most Underrated Big 12 Player

Jacob Pullen at Kansas State. As a fan of K-State, I've watched all their games this season and here's what I see:

He's a great scorer at the college level. He finishes well at the rim and he can take over games with his shooting stroke. He does lack athleticism and a degree of quickness, but he's taking over the leadership role for this K-State team and could score up to 18 or 19 ppg this year. Him and Clemente is possibly the best backcourt in the Big 12 conference....


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Best backcourt in the Big

Best backcourt in the Big 12? LOL  What about Kansas & Texas?

You think Pullen is ever going to get drafted? What about Clemente? 

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Well yea, I forgot about

Well yea, I forgot about Kansas lol....But I think they have a better backcourt than Texas.

I think Clemente is a 2nd round prospect, while Pullen might be better off playing overseas. I doubt he has the PG skills and athleticism to truly be an NBA player.

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better back court then

better back court then texas??..mmmmm nope

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but i will agree that there

but i will agree that there backcourt is underrated. and probably third in the big 12 as far as scoring

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I definitely think Kansas &

I definitely think Kansas & Texas have better backcourts than Kansas St. 

Also what about Oklahoma (Warren & Mason-Griffin), Oklahoma St.(Page & Anderson), & Texas A&M (Roland & Sloan). I'm not sure Kansas St. is better than any of those backcourts either honestly. It is pretty close. I haven't seen Kansas St. much at all this season though (only 1 game).  The Big 12 has some very talented backcourts.

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Who is Texas' starting

Who is Texas' starting backcourt? Bradley and Balbay? Clemente outplayed Balbay both times they played K-State last year and Pullen has outplayed Bradley this season so far. So what's the basis behind that argument...Are you going to use the argument that I used in the UNC v. Texas thread and say that Bradley has more potential than Pullen or are you going to find actual proof and say that Bradley is better?

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Yea Gatorheels I guess you'd

Yea Gatorheels I guess you'd have to watch Kansas State play, because their is definitely no way Texas A&M, Oklahoma State or Oklahoma has outplayed Kansas State's backcourt this season....Kansas State is ranked #22 in the nation and the starting backcourt is the reason for that.

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ill take bradley over him

ill take bradley over him now yes. and i think there stats should be better since they dont have the weapons that at the sf and down low that texas has. if you are gonna go by that then kansas state has a better back court then kansas and probably every other team in the ncaa. its kinda easy to put up good stats when the rest of youre team isnt that good and youre taking most of the shots while having the ball in youre hands everytime down court

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Balbay, Mason, Lucas,

Balbay, Mason, Lucas, Bradley, Brown > Pullen, Clemente, McGruder, Irving

If I had to choose I would rather have the guys from Texas.  If we are talking just starting backcourts than I can see your point but I'm not sure who I would take. I'm not sure who normally starts for Texas...I believe it was Balbay & Bradley today. 

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"Him and Clemente is

"Him and Clemente is possibly the best backcourt in the Big 12 conference...."

I was talking about starting backcourt. My bad it didn't actually say "starting" in there....But yea, Texas usually starts either Balbay and Bradley, Mason and Balbay, or Balbay and Mason. I still would take Kansas State's starting backcourt over any 3 versions of Texas' backcourt.

And Quincey, Kansas State has 2 double figure low-post scorers on that team as well (Samuels and Kelly). They are just great scorers. It not that they are the only 2 options on the team, they are just the most prolific.

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Solid win for Kansas St.
Solid win for Kansas St. tonight. They beat Alabama on the road.  Pullen scored a bunch.
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and the fact that texas has

and the fact that texas has so many good guards would make there stats go down..liek i said before its you're opinion. but my opinion is that texas has the better back court

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Yea Pullen once again was

Yea Pullen once again was dominate, he's going through a stretch right now where the basket is seemingly wide open, and they did a good job of getting Wally Judge easy chances to score. He play the best he's played all season easily..

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I think Kansas State is very

I think Kansas State is very underrated.

Gator we talk by email? I have to ask you something.

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QHaynes- my account on here
QHaynes- my account on here is set to where you can email me. Just click on my name...then click on contact.
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cool man. Also, I don't

cool man.

Also, I don't really anyone beating Kansas.

Henry, Aldrich and Collins are a fierce team

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what happened with the judge

what happened with the judge kid. during the summer most people on here kept swearing to me he would be a one and done and do this and that. what happened to him?

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QHaynes- I responded to your

QHaynes- I responded to your email.  Also Kansas is stacked but I really think they can get beat in the tourney.  They are the favorite to win it all but Texas, Kentucky, etc.. have a legit shot at beating them.  Kansas is super tough at home but on a neutral court they can be beat.

Pittman vs. Aldrich will be fun to watch. 

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Wally Judge has looked much

Wally Judge has looked much too raw to be a big factor this year. He reminds me of Tyrus Thomas though, with less of an attitude. He's mostly playing because of his defensive tools. He's a freakish athlete which helps him in passing lane D and blocking shots (even though he's foul-prone). Except for him to be a lotto type next year or in 2012 though as he gets more polished and fully adjusts to college.

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personally i think the

personally i think the backcourt at kstate are 2 shooting guards. they look to score 1st and second and they rarely get many assists while turining it over almost as much as they get assits

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Yea neither one of them are

Yea neither one of them are true PG's in the sense of getting assists like that...The offensive sets call for the players to set screens ans just swing the ball around the perimeter and feed the post sometimes. They dont need a real PG for their system, they need shooters and slashers more.

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i might have to try to get

i might have to try to get tickets if they come in my area since d.hill used to be my aau teammate( he used to be a very very good basketball player..most people dont know that..his game was alot like delonte west but less athletic)

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The closest game they play

The closest game they play to D.C. is against Cleveland St. Idk how far that is from D.C. but I imagine it's a ways away...

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im from dc but i live in

im from dc but i live in florida now( next to img academies)

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kstate backcourt is very

kstate backcourt is very underratted. i see them going to work on just about any back court they face. not sure how well they look as pros but as college players that backcourt is a problem for anyone they face

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I've been big on Pullen

I've been big on Pullen since his freshman year. He is a very solid collegiate point guard, and I'm surprised on hom much he is scoring this year, I thought he would end up being more of a distributer 15-16 and 7 kind of guy especially with a scorer like Clemente beside him. I think he has the potential to be an early to mid second rounder if he leaves this year for lack of point guards in this draft.

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i think that very possible.

i think that very possible. i think its gonna be tough for pg this year because it seems every team has 2 or more these days and at least one is real young

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