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Interesting Reasons why Darko isin't really a bust...more a fail

In Bill Simmons book...

He stated D-Wade at 5 was a "shock" pick to many GM's under Miami.

He also says that C-Bosh was highly questioned because many GM's looked at him as the next Keon Clark.

He also says that Melo and Brown got into a heated relationship during the 04 olympics to the the point it messed up the season so it's wouldn't have worked in D.

Im not saying Darko was the right pick but looking at those details from a man who is DEEP on the inside.... makes me requestion my stance

You?


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That doesnt change the fact

That doesnt change the fact that hes a bust...O_o

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I'm just saying. Based on

I'm just saying.

Based on Scouting a player- he was the #2 overall talent. Yea, they were wrong but u have to factor

- Pistons current roster

as well. Why you think Portland didn't take Jordan, already had 2 all star guards.

You need big men to win.

Not saying Darko was the right pick but now....I understand why he was THE pick

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Yea Darko was hyped up

Yea Darko was hyped up before he was picked...he was definitely the wrong pick in hindsight, and is a bust right now. I think of this as the same thing that happened to Adam Morrison, if he were picked later in the lottery he wouldn't get the criticism, but he was picked over SUPERSTAR players in the NBA, so he's going to get criticized.

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I know why Morrison was

I know why Morrison was picked that high....

He was seen to be the great white hope..

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Another brilliant Jordan

Another brilliant Jordan draft, lol. I think he bit the hype of Morrison being the re-incarnate of the great Larry Bird

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Bust

Darko=Bust
Morrison=Bust

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You guys forget

Morrison was one of the most exciting basketball players of the day. He hit all the clutch shots he had, put up 30 points per game and the only reason he didn't succeed was because the Bobcats thought he would be the next Jordan and they booed him when he missed a shot? I'm sorry but thats obsurd! Morrison put up 15 points on the road and only 12 at home which is sad.

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Very true, but they

Very true, but they shouldn't have overlooked his complete lack of athleticism and speed. If he were taken around 9-13 that season he wouldn't have had the expectations and could have maybe found a Kyle Korver type role for a team. Luke Harangody is a phenominal college player with better athletic talent than Morrison and he is a projected 2nd rounder, its just absurd Morrison went #3 and I was a fan of his in college.

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Yes I agree that Morrison

Yes I agree that Morrison was a terrible pick at #3 but athleticism isnt everything. Larry bird wasnt a good athlete at all. look at Paul Pierce. Hes not a great athlete either.

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Who are some of the good

Who are some of the good white college players who can be sucessful in the pros?

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True, but a 21 year old Paul

True, but a 21 year old Paul Pierce was more athletic than Morrison and he was taken at #10, and I agree athleticism isn't everything Mehmet Okur and Troy Murphy are pretty solid and not atheltic at all.

I think Luke Babbit, Cole Aldrich, Gordon Haywood, Kyle Singler, Miles Plumlee, can all contribute to NBA teams. I think Harangody can be a solid bench player for a long time. I don't see any of them as stars but I think all of those guys have the ability to make it in the pros.

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On Morrison

The fact that Adam Morrison's condition (diabetes) should have teams running for second thoughts on him during scouting whether or not he'll have a long career or not... The Bobcats took the risk and it slapped them back into their faces...

Darko---- whatever excuses a person has, he's still a BUST

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But

Wouldn't it be great if Morrison would have been a 30 point scorer in the league that would have been great for diabetics

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Bird & dirk

Larry athletic abilities werent good, but when you are a 6'9 Small Forward that was about 15 pounds and 2 inches taller then most of the people he played, look at dirk, he is 7 foot going against 6'9 -6'10 players. Morrison was the average size for a 3. Bound to struggle 1 of the most crowded positions in the league.

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Do you think Adam Morrison

Do you think Adam Morrison would have been a good player in the 80's? IDK but the SF position today is athletes. The unathletic players of today are usually skilled and fundamental bigmen. But if you look at even the SF's on the benches of teams, there are guys like Outlaw, Sam Young, and Matt Barnes who could guard a player like morrison with no problems. SF is a position where you need to be athletic(atleast a decent athlete). And I have seen paul pierce posterize people numerous times, he is very strong and has a good first step all things morrison didn't have or never did. and all of those things would be part of athleticism. As far as Darko, he still only averaged like 3ppg and 2rpg overseas the year he came to the league. Atleast we saw melo win a national championship, and DWade carry his team deep in the tourney with triple doubles, and we saw bosh have an excellent freshman year at Ga. Tech. Hell, we even saw Chris Kaman do well at a small school. But we didn't see Darko at all and his stats told us to watch out but he looked good in workouts. Hell I might look good in a workout but I couldn't score 1 point in the NBA. My point is there were red flags on Darko but everyone was blinded by "UPSIDE."

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that was a dumb pick no

that was a dumb pick no matter how ou look at it. and half the people who ever scouted him only watched a couple of games of him( im not sure bill watched any except highlights) and even with what det had it was a dumb pick. there were alot more scouts saying the pistons made a mistake with that pick and tht melo was the obvious choice. not sure what kinda scouting that they did to think bosh was gonna potentially be like clark when there games arent even that similar even when bosh played as a freshman. scouting isnt a exact science but there are some guys who you are more certain are gonna be good then others who could be good but chances are just as high they could be bust... i dont understand the logic with det since they had guys at ever position starting wise. its mostly dumb to pick because you need this or that over someone who is talented and has star written all over him.

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Yea

I love Bill Simmons but just cause he does a little research doesn't mean its not a "Bust"

Literally you just described what a bust is...Isn't a bust a fail? They're synonyms practically in basketball talk.

That's one problem I've always had with Bill Simmons. Until he knows something, it doesn't exist. He always acts like he's inventing sliced bread or something.

So Detroits scouting on Darko sucked...and it sucked on Melo, and they sucked at scouting Bosh...and Wade...doesn't make Darko any less of a bust. But it does make the scouts failures lol

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my thing is darko wasnt even

my thing is darko wasnt even killing over in europe. they must have just thought " man hes a big euro with average to below average post game but hes big and young"

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